Got reported to child protection service

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Anonymous wrote:Is it cupping? I mean, they would definitely need to report that.

Cupping is what I thought too. I don’t see how CPS would stay involved

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Anonymous wrote:This is the first time ever I got reported to child protection service in Montgomery county from a daycare. I have a few children. I don't want to reveal too much details in case I am not supposed to ask/share on this forum or affect possible investigation. What happens is daycare did their due responsibilities and called CPS because they saw deep purple bruises on my child's body part. And, I left a note in his backpack upon dropoff that it was a cultural thing that's for good health (look terrible but actually painless), and my child is fine. I swear it is not physical abuse and I love my child to death. The reason I knew because daycare notified me about that. I called DH to tell him about that, and he is not worried at all. I am really worried about it. What will I expect? Are they planning to do home visit, call pediatrician or asking me to get my child checked out, or nothing will happen? Anyone has gone through that before?

1. Good for your daycare.
2. I've never in life received a deep purple bruise painlessly.

I have - cupping.

Me too. In the Caribbean

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Anonymous wrote:Just to end the debate - the District of Columbia CPS manual says that the practice of coining is an abusive.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://cfsa.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/cfsa/publication/attachments/Investigations-POM_0.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiqvMv-76D0AhWcj3IEHbj6DKQQFnoECBYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3CoRuKQB7Io3qTKUY_L0TH

Again OP get a lawyer.

Good work finding that. I agree - OP needs a lawyer.

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OP, I was investigated for “slapping”. It was a very light slap on the back of the head.
My kid made drama out of it and it was reported. He behaved like a brat which warranted the slap. I should have been more patient but he is bratty, very bratty. So it’s hard.
They investigated and said inconclusive.
Most likely they will say the same about you. They will want to talk to the child alone.
I think some reporters report every little thing and that’s unfortunate

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I was investigated for “slapping”. It was a very light slap on the back of the head.
My kid made drama out of it and it was reported. He behaved like a brat which warranted the slap. I should have been more patient but he is bratty, very bratty. So it’s hard.
They investigated and said inconclusive.
Most likely they will say the same about you. They will want to talk to the child alone.
I think some reporters report every little thing and that’s unfortunate

You are horrible. Atop abusing your child.

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Anonymous wrote:CPS will know what they are and educate the daycare.

They can “educate” me all they want but I will always call cps for bruising around the private areas.

- daycare worker

Nobody said anything about the private areas.

Correct, but Daycare Worker, we all agree you MUST report. The parent will explain themselves to CPS. In this case it sounds benign. Thank you for keeping an eye on the kids.

Daycares, even home ones, are generally mandated reporters. So if they saw the bruise, and your note (!), and had reasonable suspicion… I think they are in serious trouble if they *dont* report it.

Same goes for teachers, licensed professionals (Drs, therapists) and camp counselors. And all this is a good thing to protect children who are vulnerable.

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Anonymous wrote:Just to end the debate - the District of Columbia CPS manual says that the practice of coining is an abusive.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://cfsa.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/cfsa/publication/attachments/Investigations-POM_0.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiqvMv-76D0AhWcj3IEHbj6DKQQFnoECBYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3CoRuKQB7Io3qTKUY_L0TH

Again OP get a lawyer.

Good work finding that. I agree - OP needs a lawyer.

+1. Yes, OP needs a lawyer and needs to not say ANYTHING about doing it in the past to her other children. Don’t explain yourself, OP, you can just open the door for more trouble that you’ll have to deal with.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I was investigated for “slapping”. It was a very light slap on the back of the head.
My kid made drama out of it and it was reported. He behaved like a brat which warranted the slap. I should have been more patient but he is bratty, very bratty. So it’s hard.
They investigated and said inconclusive.
Most likely they will say the same about you. They will want to talk to the child alone.
I think some reporters report every little thing and that’s unfortunate

A slap in the head is not ok.

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OP should have explained beforehand to the daycare. Our provider would note down every visible bump and bruise at dropoff and ask us to explain. One time they even called to ask about a red patch under the shirt from when DD had slipped and hit herself on the bath faucet the night before. I can’t imagine someone not getting alarmed by coining marks if they are not familiar with the practice.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, if it was coming the daycare is still being ignorant and insensitive to culture.

OP should have explained. How on earth is someone expected to know what cupping and coining is if they are not from that culture?

Maybe someone like you should not be culturally ignorant. I knew exactly what it was from how OP described it. It was appropriate for the day care to call it in and speak to OP about it. Most people in the US know what cupping is but this isn't cupping. You don't do cupping on very young kids.

You seem to be ignorant pretending that everyone should know about your strange practices. This is a civilized country in case you didn’t realize it.

Yes, you should know. Its similar to acupuncture and cupping in some cultures. Its cultural competency 101.

No, there is no reason for me to know about every bizarre “treatment” under the sun. Not everyone is a Goop devotee like you seem to be.

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Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health.

OP your pediatrician is a mandated reporter too. If the pediatrician disagrees with your cultural practices you will now have multiple people reporting you. You really need a lawyer. You can lose your kids this way.

OP is almost certainly not going to lose her kids over this one incident. CPS is loathe to remove kids from custody, well beyond the point when they should.

That said, OP, please don’t do this again. You can’t deliberately and repeatedly bruise your kids in this country, regardless of your personal cultural beliefs.

Absolutely she can. CPS can determine that because she insists on performing this abusive act and doesn't see it as abusive, they can make the determination to remove the children. The OP is now calling more mandated reporters to likely get her reported again. CPS has a ton of power. Anyone that deals with CPS knows that you take them 100% seriously.

Having been a CPS worker, I had one family who engaged in coining but those kids were not in care because of the coining but because of mental health and substance abuse as well as severe neglect. The mom wasn't able to care for the kids. These kind of things get called in regularly. They are no abusive in and of itself. Stop being dramatic. It was appropriate for the day care to call but more than likely, worst case CPS will come in, talk to her, do a safety plan and help her understand why not to do it (but she can tell the worker she didn't know and has since spoken to others who explained its not an ok practice here) and then do a follow up visit or two. It would be very unlikely that CPS would provide ongoing services and even less likely to remove a child over this.

OP made a mistake. It is a well known cultural practice in some parts of Asia. Stop scaring them when its probably just ruled out. If CPS was going to remove or really concerned they would have come same day/next day. We live in a very diverse area.

At no time has the OP stated that it was a mistake. The OP is insisting that it is a part of her culture. If she continues down this path how would you handle it in CPS? Allow the child to continue to be bruised?

It is part of her culture.

Female genital cutting is also a part of some cultures. I guess CPS should allow that as well?

Stick to the topic. Its not done here and that would be CPS involvement.

Coining or cupping or whatever is not a mainstream American practice either.

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Anonymous wrote:OP should have explained beforehand to the daycare. Our provider would note down every visible bump and bruise at dropoff and ask us to explain. One time they even called to ask about a red patch under the shirt from when DD had slipped and hit herself on the bath faucet the night before. I can’t imagine someone not getting alarmed by coining marks if they are not familiar with the practice.

They asked you! They didn’t call cps about every little mundane thing

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Anonymous wrote:How inexperienced are they that they have never heard on mongolian spots!!

A cultural thing that good for health seems to imply it's something that was done to the child, not Mongolian spots that appear on an infant. Is cupping a cultural thing? This is very odd.

It seems like childcare did a good job in reporting.

Cupping is a cultural thing. So is coining. It's not abuse, and no they did not do a good job reporting if it is in fact that. TF.

Wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:This is op. I did not know what that calls in English, and I google up, and yes, I did "coining". I was worried and left a message for the regular pediatrician to tell her what has happened and what I did. My kid does not take any herbal medicine and broths that I boiled for hours. I have not got any call from CPS, and I have learned my lesson. But you know what, coining does help to improve better health. [/quote

No, it doesn't. It's baseless woo, just like " homeopathy."

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Anonymous wrote:This is what coining looks like. There is no scientific basis for its use, certainly not on a child.

It doesn’t usually look like this, especially not if it’s done regularly. It depends how much metabolic waste is stuck in there.

What a load of abject nonsense.