2022 US News Best National Universities

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Anonymous wrote:I love these threads! The subjective BS from posters about how they think schools should be ranked is always top-notch entertainment.

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Whole lot of feelings in these posts…

A whole lot of pathetic pieces of garbage in these posts...

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Anonymous wrote:Just look at yield rates for Columbia, even below Penn and Chicago

This list gives you a general ballpark idea of how schools are ranked. But it doesn't change people's mind much. I guess the Princeton alumni still work at US News. But very few believes Princeton being #1. Its yield rate in the 60% range is the lowest out of HYPSM. No one believes Chicago is tied with Stanford. Duke's yield rate is less than 50%. Few believes Columbia being #2 either. If you want to be in the top 5, you need to get rid of ED and see what your yield rate is with only EA as HYPSM do.

This is silly and biased, there are 100 different metrics that US news can choose from but according to you rankings should be based on yield?!?!?!

Yield is a very important metric. It measures people's real commitment to a school, hundreds of thousands of $ for the next 4 years. With the yield in mind, Princeton would be #5:

1. Harvard (80%+)
2. Stanford (80%+)
3. MIT (high 70%)
4. Yale
5. Princeton

For all these schools to reach 80%+ yield at the same time, they can only accept students other competitors would NOT accept.

Thank you!!!!! You have students getting into Stanford but rejected from Northeastern. The game is different, and these schools are gaming the system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love these threads! The subjective BS from posters about how they think schools should be ranked is always top-notch entertainment.

+1

Whole lot of feelings in these posts…

A whole lot of pathetic pieces of garbage in these posts...

Thank goodness we have scholars like you to keep it classy.

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Anonymous wrote:Going forward, HYPSM is now CHYPSM.

CHYMPS

Lol. To really have a head-on competition with HYMPS for students, Columbia needs to have the balls to drop that ED protection and switch to SCEA admission like a real HYMPS caliber does. Then we will see

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

1. Princeton University
2. Columbia University
2. Harvard University
2. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5. Yale University
6. Stanford University
6. University of Chicago
8. University of Pennsylvania
9. California Institute of Technology
9. Duke University
9. Johns Hopkins University
9. Northwestern University
13. Dartmouth College
14. Brown University
14. Vanderbilt University
14. Washington University in St. Louis
17. Cornell University
17. Rice University
19. University of Notre Dame
20. University of California, Los Angeles
21. Emory University
22. University of California, Berkeley
23. Georgetown University
23. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
25. Carnegie Mellon University
25. University of Virginia
27. University of Southern California
28. New York University
28. Tufts University
28. University of California, Santa Barbara
28. University of Florida
28. University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
28. Wake Forest University

My thoughts: Columbia is not really at the same level as Harvard and MIT. Chicago is not at the same level as Stanford, which always appears underrated in USNWR. Hopkins is not at the level of Caltech and Duke. Why does UCLA continue to be above Berkeley? What does UCLA do better than Berkeley? The schools tied at 28 don't really seem any better than schools down around 40 or so. What would make UCSB better than UCSD or Texas or a number of other schools?

Nobody cares what you and your grandma think.

Obviously you did. If you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that got hit.

Except I am the dog that didn’t get hit but calling the dumass animal worse than dogs throwing rocks at sentient beings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Going forward, HYPSM is now CHYPSM.

CHYMPS

Lol. To really have a head-on competition with HYMPS for students, Columbia needs to have the balls to drop that ED protection and switch to SCEA admission like a real HYMPS caliber does. Then we will see

Yes, every school that has ED must be fatally flawed in some aspect or else some of those admitted 18 year olds who would never choose a school out of lay prestige would choose such inferior schools. On the other hand, every school with SCEA is significantly superior and miles ahead from the others.

So, we need to put Georgetown and Notre Dame with HYPS: GNDHYPS

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Anonymous wrote:83. SUNY Binghamton
83. Colorado School of Mines
83. Elon
83. Howard
83. Marquette
83. Michigan Sate
83. Stevens Tech
83. Texas Christian U
83. UC Riverside
83. U Iowa

Elon is unbelievable. From a regional university to top 83. I predict they'll rise much higher.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]83. SUNY Binghamton
83. Colorado School of Mines
83. Elon
83. Howard
83. Marquette
83. Michigan Sate
83. Stevens Tech
83. Texas Christian U
83. UC Riverside
83. U Iowa

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Elon is unbelievable. From a regional university to top 83. I predict they'll rise much higher.[/quote]

Why are you on every thread promoting Elon?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going forward, HYPSM is now CHYPSM.

CHYMPS

Lol. To really have a head-on competition with HYMPS for students, Columbia needs to have the balls to drop that ED protection and switch to SCEA admission like a real HYMPS caliber does. Then we will see

Perhaps they should let applicants know that 1/3 of their undergraduates are non traditional students who do not matriculate at age 18. . That 1/3 is not included in the stats sent to USNWR. With such a small undergraduate class, it’s really gaming the system and USNWR allows Columbia to play it to perfection as the rankings show. The school has 33,000 students with less than 6500 at the undergraduate level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going forward, HYPSM is now CHYPSM.

CHYMPS

Lol. To really have a head-on competition with HYMPS for students, Columbia needs to have the balls to drop that ED protection and switch to SCEA admission like a real HYMPS caliber does. Then we will see

Perhaps they should let applicants know that 1/3 of their undergraduates are non traditional students who do not matriculate at age 18. . That 1/3 is not included in the stats sent to USNWR. With such a small undergraduate class, it’s really gaming the system and USNWR allows Columbia to play it to perfection as the rankings show. The school has 33,000 students with less than 6500 at the undergraduate level.

Not sure where the beef is. With under 4% accept rate, Columbia has more enemies than friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going forward, HYPSM is now CHYPSM.

CHYMPS

Lol. To really have a head-on competition with HYMPS for students, Columbia needs to have the balls to drop that ED protection and switch to SCEA admission like a real HYMPS caliber does. Then we will see

Perhaps they should let applicants know that 1/3 of their undergraduates are non traditional students who do not matriculate at age 18. . That 1/3 is not included in the stats sent to USNWR. With such a small undergraduate class, it’s really gaming the system and USNWR allows Columbia to play it to perfection as the rankings show. The school has 33,000 students with less than 6500 at the undergraduate level.

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Anonymous wrote:How has Wake Forest, which had already been test optional so only those with the highest scores submit, hang on at 28 tied with Tufts when it has much lower standardized scores? Wake also is ahead of schools schools like Rochester, Boston College, Georgia Tech, William & Mary, BU, etc. that all have higher scores as well. It is a fine school, but I've never understood its ranking.

Agreed, seems off

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these general rankings with all the departments all together make no sense
can someone with an account post the ranking for the undergraduate computer science?

1.Carnegie Mellon University, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Stanford University, University of California--Berkeley
5. Cornell University, Georgia Institute of Technology, University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
8. California Institute of Technology, Princeton University
10. University of California--Los Angeles, University of Texas at Austin, University of Washington

do you have the first 25? those 10 were free

Whoops. - I did not even realize anyone paid for these. i am not doing that but here is last years 2021 list. Things do not change much year to year so this will still be useful guide to some top programs.

#1:
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

#2:

Carnegie Mellon University

Stanford University

University of California--Berkeley

#5:

California Institute of Technology

Cornell University

Georgia Institute of Technology

Princeton University

University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign

University of Washington

#11:

University of Texas--Austin

#12:

University of Michigan--Ann Arbor

#13:

Columbia University

Harvard University

University of California--Los Angeles

#16:

University of California--San Diego

University of Maryland--College Park

University of Pennsylvania

University of Wisconsin--Madison

#20:

Harvey Mudd College

Johns Hopkins University

Purdue University--West Lafayette

Rice University

Yale University

#25:

Brown University

Duke University

Northwestern University

University of California--Irvine

University of Chicago

University of Southern California

#31:

University of Colorado--Boulder

University of Massachusetts--Amherst

University of North Carolina--Chapel Hill

University of Virginia

Virginia Tech

Wow, amazing how you basically have to multiply the UMD ranking by 2 before getting to UVA. Too bad so sad

for CS but still Go TERPS!!!

You both are reading an old USN&WR. UVA is now in the top 25; UMD has fallen off the list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love these threads! The subjective BS from posters about how they think schools should be ranked is always top-notch entertainment.

+1

Whole lot of feelings in these posts…

A whole lot of pathetic pieces of garbage in these posts...

On the one hand: the hostility toward schools like Columbia is absurd.

On the other hand: The rankings ARE relevant to borrowing money for college.

I’m pretty idealistic about the liberal arts and what an education is worth. But the rankings do have a bearing on what I’d be willing to borrow to pay the education for a typical great kid. If the competition was UVA for in-state tuition, the only schools I’d see as possibly being worth a lot more cash per year would be the top 10 schools here and a few SLACs.

[Anonymous]

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these general rankings with all the departments all together make no sense
can someone with an account post the ranking for the undergraduate computer science?

1.Carnegie Mellon University, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Stanford University, University of California--Berkeley
5. Cornell University, Georgia Institute of Technology, University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
8. California Institute of Technology, Princeton University
10. University of California--Los Angeles, University of Texas at Austin, University of Washington

do you have the first 25? those 10 were free

Whoops. - I did not even realize anyone paid for these. i am not doing that but here is last years 2021 list. Things do not change much year to year so this will still be useful guide to some top programs.

#1:
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

#2:

Carnegie Mellon University

Stanford University

University of California--Berkeley

#5:

California Institute of Technology

Cornell University

Georgia Institute of Technology

Princeton University

University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign

University of Washington

#11:

University of Texas--Austin

#12:

University of Michigan--Ann Arbor

#13:

Columbia University

Harvard University

University of California--Los Angeles

#16:

University of California--San Diego

University of Maryland--College Park

University of Pennsylvania

University of Wisconsin--Madison

#20:

Harvey Mudd College

Johns Hopkins University

Purdue University--West Lafayette

Rice University

Yale University

#25:

Brown University

Duke University

Northwestern University

University of California--Irvine

University of Chicago

University of Southern California

#31:

University of Colorado--Boulder

University of Massachusetts--Amherst

University of North Carolina--Chapel Hill

University of Virginia

Virginia Tech

Wow, amazing how you basically have to multiply the UMD ranking by 2 before getting to UVA. Too bad so sad

for CS but still Go TERPS!!!

You both are reading an old USN&WR. UVA is now in the top 25; UMD has fallen off the list.

Relax. Above is last year, which is a little different than the year before and the year after. Next year, things will also move around and so on and so on. They make the darn list every darn year.