So I am thinking about using my Grandmother's address to send my kid to DCPS...

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OP, are you from Maryland? Why do people from MD feel like they have a right to plunder the District's resources without paying taxes then scurry across the border? I wish Fenty would grow some balls and place toll booths at all entry points from Maryland.

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Anonymous wrote:You may find this harder than you think unless your grandmother is a legal guardian of your child We just got the forms and they are quite explicit in terms of requirements. Your grandmother would also have to personally go to the school to enroll the child and bring proof of residency and guardianship. Filling out a form and mailing it in has not been the standard for some time- the resident has to show up in person at the school.

Actually, I don't think this is true. My son and I were living (actually, really) with my mom inbounds for a JKLM school when he started Kindergarten. All I needed was proof that the house was in her name, and a form from her stating that we lived with her. I was the one who brought it in, and it was considered enough to establish MY residency which was enough to establish his.

I'm not saying one should or shouldn't do this, just that it's not impossible.

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Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, Rhee has been known to not pursue certain principals because the more students the better the enrollment numbers look....at Ross ES a couple of years back (Rhee's first year) there were at least a handful of Maryland & Virginia residents that really should have paid tuition, which is about $9,000-plus for out-of-state enrollment. The principal tried to take down license plates at drop off only to be branded racist by AA parents, who claimed she was targeting OOB (this rumor began by the out-of-state parents to turn other AA parents off to the principal) and the whole thing was ugly. The administration not only hung the principal out to dry, they looked the other way regarding the real issue of residency. At the best NW DCPS schools the parents will out you for the many reasons listed above.

I am absolutely, 100% positive that you speak for yourself - not for everyone. You may very well speak for your cohort of parents, I'm not surprised that certain personalities would feed well together. You do NOT represent as many parents as you think.

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of rat bastard tattles on a kid (or their parents) in a situation like this? Are people who can afford to pay 800K and up to live in-boundary really so petty?

Well if my ACTUAL in bounds kid didn't get into PK because of someone doing this, I would. Not petty, it's fraud. Also wouldn't tolerate over limit class sizes if some kids were not legitimately there. Why is fraud for some ok when other families are shut out of the OOB lottery? It's no different than stealing.

I think they were trying to fill Ross and get the $ per head at that point. Doubt that would be tolerated today.

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There are 650 kids waiting in the OOB list for Murch. There are not enough spaces for all the in-boundary 1st graders to have kept class size reasonable and there are 26 kids per class. Mean? Maybe, but the issue is that there has been a baby boom and there are not enough spaces. Pretty simple.

I think it has become tougher to establish residency - you have to go every year to register.

Went to Deal on a tour and they expect next year to fully max out enrollment at 900. Certain schools in NW are really in demand.

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Anonymous wrote:There are 650 kids waiting in the OOB list for Murch. There are not enough spaces for all the in-boundary 1st graders to have kept class size reasonable and there are 26 kids per class. Mean? Maybe, but the issue is that there has been a baby boom and there are not enough spaces. Pretty simple.

I think it has become tougher to establish residency - you have to go every year to register.

Went to Deal on a tour and they expect next year to fully max out enrollment at 900. Certain schools in NW are really in demand.

Good. Maybe the school(s) should expand, that would make most people happier (except those in the know about education, psychology, and the results of small schools, but they wouldn't consider a mega-elementary in the first place). Maybe Deal should eventually expand to be the ONLY DCPS middle school in the District (let's keep Latin though, but it's not DCPS).

In the meantime, we don't attend our in-bounds school, but I know of two children who don't live in-bounds, though they attend our high-performing in-bounds school anyway. Yes, I know that some of you would object to their attendance. Nonetheless NO, I have absolutely no intention of doing anything about it except for wishing them continued good luck.

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17:55: regarding representing "myself" and cohort of parents, etc.... I was actually referring to the previous POSTS, not the situation that happened at Ross. Personally, I would NOT out a parent because there are children involved benefitting. Besides, there's so much corruption in government to go around it's difficult to police with good conscience. My point is, and it's been discussed in DCPS circles in recent years, sometimes Central Admin. and/or principals will look the other way to keep the numbers up, and that's a fact.

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In the meantime, we don't attend our in-bounds school, but I know of two children who don't live in-bounds, though they attend our high-performing in-bounds school anyway. Yes, I know that some of you would object to their attendance. Nonetheless NO, I have absolutely no intention of doing anything about it except for wishing them continued good luck.

But are they legitimately enrolled out of bounds students? I have no objections there and actually my kid attends a JKLM school out of bounds, but we went through the process, we didn't jump, or more accurately, ignore, the line.

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Anonymous wrote:
In the meantime, we don't attend our in-bounds school, but I know of two children who don't live in-bounds, though they attend our high-performing in-bounds school anyway. Yes, I know that some of you would object to their attendance. Nonetheless NO, I have absolutely no intention of doing anything about it except for wishing them continued good luck.

But are they legitimately enrolled out of bounds students? I have no objections there and actually my kid attends a JKLM school out of bounds, but we went through the process, we didn't jump, or more accurately, ignore, the line.

By your definition (or what I suspect is your definition) of "legitimately enrolled" OOB students: No. I am quite certain they are not. However - and more importantly - by my definition of a DC taxpayer, it all strikes me as completely legitimate. Their parents pay DC taxes for them to attend DC public schools. Ergo, all DC public schools should be available to them.

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'By your definition (or what I suspect is your definition) of "legitimately enrolled" OOB students: No. I am quite certain they are not. However - and more importantly - by my definition of a DC taxpayer, it all strikes me as completely legitimate. Their parents pay DC taxes for them to attend DC public schools. Ergo, all DC public schools should be available to them."

But all schools are available to DC taxpayers. There's just a process to get into them and slots depend on facilities and demand. You seem to object to the process and support subverting it. It is unfortunate that not all our city's schools are equally good, but your taxes are not enough to pay for equity. And some schools do better because of parent commitment, volunteer time and extra money.

I can't understand why you are defending this point of view so forcefully. Do you dislike public schools? Or would you like to see all students go to a lottery system? In that case, we'll have to find more than the $27,000 a year starting salary to attract and retain better teachers tin DC and find the $$ to give them the resources to do what they need to do.

OP: you are going to do what you are going to do. Maybe you will get away with it, but maybe you won't. But this is DC - the grass is not always greener on the other side.

[Anonymous]

We had this situation at our DCPS... it was well known but hush-hush that certain kids were enrolled using fraudulent addresses ("living with" grandparents in the neighborhood, when the reality was living with parents in Maryland). This sort of thing really peeved off - rightly so - the people who lived in Maryland and played by the rules by paying out of state tuition to attend DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Nothing to do with the above situation but I live near a public charter school and frequently see cars with Maryland plates dropping kids off. I don't have a kid at the school but I do pay DC taxes, so I wonder about it.

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Anonymous wrote:You may find this harder than you think unless your grandmother is a legal guardian of your child We just got the forms and they are quite explicit in terms of requirements. Your grandmother would also have to personally go to the school to enroll the child and bring proof of residency and guardianship. Filling out a form and mailing it in has not been the standard for some time- the resident has to show up in person at the school.

Actually, I don't think this is true. My son and I were living (actually, really) with my mom inbounds for a JKLM school when he started Kindergarten. All I needed was proof that the house was in her name, and a form from her stating that we lived with her. I was the one who brought it in, and it was considered enough to establish MY residency which was enough to establish his.

I'm not saying one should or shouldn't do this, just that it's not impossible.

Take a look at the new guidelines, this will not work anymore.

[Anonymous]

To the OP -- Don't know your family dynamics or situation, but if that's really you want to do and your grandmother agrees, then change your address to hers, put one of the utility bills in your name and you and your child stay there during most of the week and then go back home on the weekends. At least try to do it the legal way.

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OP here.... I live in MD but help to take care of my Grandmother who lives in a pretty good neighborhood in DC. During the week we stay over probably 2 or 3 days to help get her in order and so she can see my DS. I do not officially live with her (no names on any bills) but I do spend the night during the week.