So I am thinking about using my Grandmother's address to send my kid to DCPS...

Anonymous
Is that all you can come up with? I find it amazing that people are screaming for change, and finally when that happens and somebody has the guts and vision to take the bull by the horns and the requisite growing pains ensue, everyone is ready to jump ship. People just like to complain and blame. Period. They like the idea of the product but don't have the patience to endure the process.

I think we have to think of the big picture. Nobody liked the idea of many important social programs when they were first introduced and now we can't imagine society without them.

Rhee may be hard handed and Fenty may seem aloof, but that has no bearing on the jobs they do. This is not a personality contest. They are making change. I am excited about what they are doing and I think things are moving in the right direction. I am willing to keep supporting them and let them have some time to finish what they started.
Anonymous
11:46, do you have children in DCPS? I do and while I supported Rhee at first, I no longer do.

Facilities under Lew are better, but things at my child's school are worse under Rhee.

Yes, her personality appears to be a bit toxic, but frankly, I don't give a crap--to use her vernacular. I care that good programs and people are getting cut (both literally and figuratively) under Rhee's regime.

She has no real educational skills but she's adept at creating fear, chaos and churn. Rhee has yet to build anything. She is still operating as a 24/7 help desk via her blackberry. I mean, it was cute the first 3 months, but after 3 years, she still doesn't have a system in place to get stuff fixed other than "email me." Come on, how is that a good use of a chancellor's time? 825 is still as broken as it ever was, except we have J. Crew suits and blackberries along with the dysfunction.

You are absolutely correct that it is not a personality contests, it's about results. Rhee has not delivered.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Only if the person is the mayor and flaunted his abuse of the OOB process. As for an ordinary DC citizen, I would have no issues. Every DC child is entitled to a good education. It is simply a darn shame that all are not provided with such.

....I am so sick of people blaming the mayor and getting on his case for sending his kids to a good public school. He's the goddam mayor...I think he deserves to send his kids to any public school in the city he so wishes.

But what this sense of entitlement does is separate him from the concerns of ordinary residents. Most readers of this board have been obsessed with the lottery for going on two months now. If you don't live in-bounds for JKLMO, the issue of where to send you child is nerve-wracking, and often depends on pure chance. What the mayor's behavior re his sons' school said to me was that either he doesn't realize what other east-of-the-park parents go through, or he doesn't give a damn. In my mind, that puts him dangerously close to being an incompetent ally for parents like me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Only if the person is the mayor and flaunted his abuse of the OOB process. As for an ordinary DC citizen, I would have no issues. Every DC child is entitled to a good education. It is simply a darn shame that all are not provided with such.


....I am so sick of people blaming the mayor and getting on his case for sending his kids to a good public school. He's the goddam mayor...I think he deserves to send his kids to any public school in the city he so wishes.


WE all want to send our children to good goddam public schools. What, because he is the mayor he is better than the people he is supposed to represent. Everybody is a goddam somebody. SHIT, it is people like you that allow the public officials to continue with the corruption. You put them above the law and everyone else. Yes, keep them in their good goddam ivory towers and let politics continue as usual. BTW-- kids are goats
Anonymous
the person is the mayor and flaunted his abuse of the OOB process.


What a bunch of biddies you are. This was debunked months ago. Fenty went through the same OOB process that everyone else went through. I love that, unless he sends his kids to the worst school in DCPS, he's abusing OOB.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
the person is the mayor and flaunted his abuse of the OOB process.


What a bunch of biddies you are. This was debunked months ago. Fenty went through the same OOB process that everyone else went through. I love that, unless he sends his kids to the worst school in DCPS, he's abusing OOB.


Oh how little do you know as you spew your wrong information. What was debunked months ago was that a law was inacted in April/May 2009 to specifically allow Rhee to make unilateral determinations to allow children out of bounds to attend specific schools. Once Rhee makes an exception, the spplicant need not apply out of bound and is not subject to OOB rules. No, Fenty did not go through the OOB process that every other DC taxpaying citizen endured. He, nor his wife, ever applied. Rhee gave him an exception. And, the school in which Fenty is zoned is not nearly one of the worst schools in DCPS. But according to your irrationale thinking, it is okay for other people to send their children to the worst schools in the city. He is the mayor and is above everyone else. Oh yeah, he is King. As for the use of the terminology biddies, I have not heard anyone use that archaic term since my dear departed grandmother. Bless you for the memory.
Anonymous
Oh how little do you know as you spew your wrong information.


More irrational and unsubstantiated speculation. Got any evidence, or is it just obvious? Incidentally, your obvious distaste for the man is not considered "evidence."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Oh how little do you know as you spew your wrong information.


More irrational and unsubstantiated speculation. Got any evidence, or is it just obvious? Incidentally, your obvious distaste for the man is not considered "evidence."

Not the PP you were talking to. But here's some nice evidence, from the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/28/AR2009082803544.html)
In her first extended response to questions about the enrollment of the mayor's children, Rhee told WTOP radio: "I can assure you that no rules were broken. We have a number of provisions that allow kids to go to out-of-boundary schools, and all of those things were followed."

and
Rhee referred follow-up questions to spokeswoman Jennifer Calloway, who said in an e-mail that the lottery is one of three ways that D.C. students can attend schools outside their neighborhoods. Families also can contact the desired school after the lottery to enroll on a first-come, first served basis.

A recent amendment to the D.C. Municipal Regulations also authorizes Rhee to grant a "discretionary transfer" if she determines that it would be "in the best interests of the student, and that the transfer would promote the overall interests of the school system." The amendment, which went into effect May 29, was part of a series of rule changes tweaking the out-of-boundary application process.


Maybe Fenty did use the lottery and not one of the other two ways of getting into an oob school. Maybe he didn't take advantage of the municipal regs amendment to ask Rhee to jump the line for his kids. But I've never found a quote from him or someone at DCPS saying that he did use the lottery. Given that such a statement would have ended the controversy, it looks to me as though he didn't use the lottery. And his lack of public statement tells me that he doesn't give a damn about those of us who do need the lottery to get our kids into good schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Oh how little do you know as you spew your wrong information.


More irrational and unsubstantiated speculation. Got any evidence, or is it just obvious? Incidentally, your obvious distaste for the man is not considered "evidence."


Hmm, you don't read the WaPo, the Examiner or the City Paper do you. It was in the papers at the time his two, not one, children were miraculously awarded coveted spaces at Lafyette. It was also on the evening news. I think you are a zealot for your cause, facts do not matter to you. I suppose you will not dismiss the article PP posted. Enough with you. You remind me of one of the Glen Beck followers, you make up crap to suit your purpose, making you a pertinacious beliver by disregarding pertinant and otherwise relevant informtion. In other words, you are a lost cause.
Anonymous
15:11 here.

that should read, you will NOW dismiss
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hmm, you don't read the WaPo, the Examiner or the City Paper do you. It was in the papers at the time his two, not one, children were miraculously awarded coveted spaces at Lafyette. It was also on the evening news. I think you are a zealot for your cause, facts do not matter to you. I suppose you will not dismiss the article PP posted. Enough with you. You remind me of one of the Glen Beck followers, you make up crap to suit your purpose, making you a pertinacious beliver by disregarding pertinant and otherwise relevant informtion. In other words, you are a lost cause.


When I said "evidence" I was thinking more along the lines of a link, or other citation, rather than a stream of unhinged invective. Just sayin'.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hmm, you don't read the WaPo, the Examiner or the City Paper do you. It was in the papers at the time his two, not one, children were miraculously awarded coveted spaces at Lafyette. It was also on the evening news. I think you are a zealot for your cause, facts do not matter to you. I suppose you will not dismiss the article PP posted. Enough with you. You remind me of one of the Glen Beck followers, you make up crap to suit your purpose, making you a pertinacious beliver by disregarding pertinant and otherwise relevant informtion. In other words, you are a lost cause.


When I said "evidence" I was thinking more along the lines of a link, or other citation, rather than a stream of unhinged invective. Just sayin'.

Evidence at 14:21. Comments?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You women are funny. If Jeff is reading this I would like for him to just delete the thread. I have said numerous times that I am not going to do it. Instead of just letting it go, you have to keep digging and digging. Give it a rest why don't you? I am NOT a troll and I have never made a thread like this before. I stated my reasons (however flawed you all think they are) for contemplating doing it. I never said that I am ENTITLED... I said that because I stay at her house approx 4 nights during the week and since she lives near a good school I thought about sending my DS there. You all have bashed my son (stating that he would have low self esteem, you would NEVER invite him over... grown women would treat a child that way!....etc.). I have decided not to do it. Leave the issue alone....

Actually I will just report the entire thread... hopefully he will just delete the entire thing.
Why did you post at all? Honestly, did you think an issue as contentious as boundary fraud would get anything other than off the charts responses? It's not up to you to "end" a thread. This is the internet for heck's sake. Now you've got me revved up to keep this alive just to spite you.

At first I thought Fenty was not relevant to OP. But at least he didn't lie about his address.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hmm, you don't read the WaPo, the Examiner or the City Paper do you. It was in the papers at the time his two, not one, children were miraculously awarded coveted spaces at Lafyette. It was also on the evening news. I think you are a zealot for your cause, facts do not matter to you. I suppose you will not dismiss the article PP posted. Enough with you. You remind me of one of the Glen Beck followers, you make up crap to suit your purpose, making you a pertinacious beliver by disregarding pertinant and otherwise relevant informtion. In other words, you are a lost cause.


When I said "evidence" I was thinking more along the lines of a link, or other citation, rather than a stream of unhinged invective. Just sayin'.

Evidence at 14:21. Comments?


Your evidence:

Maybe Fenty did use the lottery and not one of the other two ways of getting into an oob school. Maybe he didn't take advantage of the municipal regs amendment to ask Rhee to jump the line for his kids.But I've never found a quote from him or someone at DCPS saying that he did use the lottery. Given that such a statement would have ended the controversy, it looks to me as though he didn't use the lottery. And his lack of public statement tells me that he doesn't give a damn about those of us who do need the lottery to get our kids into good schools.


Damning evidence. So you admit that he didn't break any regulations to get his kids into an appropriate school? Thanks.

Definitely time to bring back the kleptocracy of the 80's and 90's. So silly...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Your evidence:

Maybe Fenty did use the lottery and not one of the other two ways of getting into an oob school. Maybe he didn't take advantage of the municipal regs amendment to ask Rhee to jump the line for his kids.But I've never found a quote from him or someone at DCPS saying that he did use the lottery. Given that such a statement would have ended the controversy, it looks to me as though he didn't use the lottery. And his lack of public statement tells me that he doesn't give a damn about those of us who do need the lottery to get our kids into good schools.


Damning evidence. So you admit that he didn't break any regulations to get his kids into an appropriate school? Thanks.

Definitely time to bring back the kleptocracy of the 80's and 90's. So silly...


Well, first there was the actual link to the WaPo website, not just the as-charitable-as-possible interpretation that I offered & you quoted. Personally, I consider it a problem that the Chancellor used her newly-granted authority to allow the Mayor to bypass the lottery process. The lottery makes the lives of so many parents incredibly stressful, and is a stark reminder of the fact that some of this city's schools are fantastic, but far too many are unacceptable. In my eyes, Fenty's offense is that he appears not to be aware of--or worse, not to care about--what so many caring parents in this city go through. (The fact that the school he scorned, West, is one where we're on the waitlist is just rubbing salt into the wound.)
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