How long does Phase 1A vaccinations take?

Anonymous
NOT saying that things aren’t f’d up and still slow, but there have been multiple credible reports saying that recorded tallies are lagging way behind actual vaccinations. Someone has to record the doses given, and that record keeping is lagging. Not just DC, but most places.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:NOT saying that things aren’t f’d up and still slow, but there have been multiple credible reports saying that recorded tallies are lagging way behind actual vaccinations. Someone has to record the doses given, and that record keeping is lagging. Not just DC, but most places.


I don't really understand what you are saying. So at the close of a business day when the city is doing its internal data collection and having its evening situational update, is it not electronically collecting data from the pharmacists who have been approved to administer the vaccine? The records are electronic, because once you administer one dose, you have been automatically assigned an appointment for your second dose. Barring that though, if a Giant in NE is not reporting, would DCHealth not contact them an get an update on their record keeping. Or how about this, is DCHealth maybe visiting authorized locations throughout the day to see how the process is working on the ground.

The entire accountability aspect of the feedback loop seems to be missing.

And if you spread this example out to the DMV isn't our DCHealth having an evening wrap up meeting with MDHealth and VAHealth where they can discuss things like "so is there any chance that you are inoculating our missing 10,000 health care workers"?

Bureaucracy sucks, but there is a good reason for it. It allows us to identify our shortcomings and adapt. A month into this inoculation process, how are we not better after our City Govt's six months of inoculation planning?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NOT saying that things aren’t f’d up and still slow, but there have been multiple credible reports saying that recorded tallies are lagging way behind actual vaccinations. Someone has to record the doses given, and that record keeping is lagging. Not just DC, but most places.


I don't really understand what you are saying. So at the close of a business day when the city is doing its internal data collection and having its evening situational update, is it not electronically collecting data from the pharmacists who have been approved to administer the vaccine? The records are electronic, because once you administer one dose, you have been automatically assigned an appointment for your second dose. Barring that though, if a Giant in NE is not reporting, would DCHealth not contact them an get an update on their record keeping. Or how about this, is DCHealth maybe visiting authorized locations throughout the day to see how the process is working on the ground.

The entire accountability aspect of the feedback loop seems to be missing.

And if you spread this example out to the DMV isn't our DCHealth having an evening wrap up meeting with MDHealth and VAHealth where they can discuss things like "so is there any chance that you are inoculating our missing 10,000 health care workers"?

Bureaucracy sucks, but there is a good reason for it. It allows us to identify our shortcomings and adapt. A month into this inoculation process, how are we not better after our City Govt's six months of inoculation planning?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/coronavirus-vaccine-dc-virginia-maryland/2021/01/04/399c7280-4e8d-11eb-b96e-0e54447b23a1_story.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NOT saying that things aren’t f’d up and still slow, but there have been multiple credible reports saying that recorded tallies are lagging way behind actual vaccinations. Someone has to record the doses given, and that record keeping is lagging. Not just DC, but most places.


I don't really understand what you are saying. So at the close of a business day when the city is doing its internal data collection and having its evening situational update, is it not electronically collecting data from the pharmacists who have been approved to administer the vaccine? The records are electronic, because once you administer one dose, you have been automatically assigned an appointment for your second dose. Barring that though, if a Giant in NE is not reporting, would DCHealth not contact them an get an update on their record keeping. Or how about this, is DCHealth maybe visiting authorized locations throughout the day to see how the process is working on the ground.

The entire accountability aspect of the feedback loop seems to be missing.

And if you spread this example out to the DMV isn't our DCHealth having an evening wrap up meeting with MDHealth and VAHealth where they can discuss things like "so is there any chance that you are inoculating our missing 10,000 health care workers"?

Bureaucracy sucks, but there is a good reason for it. It allows us to identify our shortcomings and adapt. A month into this inoculation process, how are we not better after our City Govt's six months of inoculation planning?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/coronavirus-vaccine-dc-virginia-maryland/2021/01/04/399c7280-4e8d-11eb-b96e-0e54447b23a1_story.html


“In the District, that number stands at about 17,000 of 40,075 delivered doses. But city officials said only 58 percent of health-care providers are fully reporting their vaccine administrations to the city’s immunization information system. Totals won’t be accurate until providers learn how to use the system correctly and consistently, D.C. officials said.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NOT saying that things aren’t f’d up and still slow, but there have been multiple credible reports saying that recorded tallies are lagging way behind actual vaccinations. Someone has to record the doses given, and that record keeping is lagging. Not just DC, but most places.


I don't really understand what you are saying. So at the close of a business day when the city is doing its internal data collection and having its evening situational update, is it not electronically collecting data from the pharmacists who have been approved to administer the vaccine? The records are electronic, because once you administer one dose, you have been automatically assigned an appointment for your second dose. Barring that though, if a Giant in NE is not reporting, would DCHealth not contact them an get an update on their record keeping. Or how about this, is DCHealth maybe visiting authorized locations throughout the day to see how the process is working on the ground.

The entire accountability aspect of the feedback loop seems to be missing.

And if you spread this example out to the DMV isn't our DCHealth having an evening wrap up meeting with MDHealth and VAHealth where they can discuss things like "so is there any chance that you are inoculating our missing 10,000 health care workers"?

Bureaucracy sucks, but there is a good reason for it. It allows us to identify our shortcomings and adapt. A month into this inoculation process, how are we not better after our City Govt's six months of inoculation planning?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/coronavirus-vaccine-dc-virginia-maryland/2021/01/04/399c7280-4e8d-11eb-b96e-0e54447b23a1_story.html


“In the District, that number stands at about 17,000 of 40,075 delivered doses. But city officials said only 58 percent of health-care providers are fully reporting their vaccine administrations to the city’s immunization information system. Totals won’t be accurate until providers learn how to use the system correctly and consistently, D.C. officials said.”


So there apparently is no follow through. Nobody at DCHealth going, "Wow they did not report again. Please call them and maybe send a trainer out there tomorrow..."

That excuse is DCHealth weak mumbo sauce.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NOT saying that things aren’t f’d up and still slow, but there have been multiple credible reports saying that recorded tallies are lagging way behind actual vaccinations. Someone has to record the doses given, and that record keeping is lagging. Not just DC, but most places.


I don't really understand what you are saying. So at the close of a business day when the city is doing its internal data collection and having its evening situational update, is it not electronically collecting data from the pharmacists who have been approved to administer the vaccine? The records are electronic, because once you administer one dose, you have been automatically assigned an appointment for your second dose. Barring that though, if a Giant in NE is not reporting, would DCHealth not contact them an get an update on their record keeping. Or how about this, is DCHealth maybe visiting authorized locations throughout the day to see how the process is working on the ground.

The entire accountability aspect of the feedback loop seems to be missing.

And if you spread this example out to the DMV isn't our DCHealth having an evening wrap up meeting with MDHealth and VAHealth where they can discuss things like "so is there any chance that you are inoculating our missing 10,000 health care workers"?

Bureaucracy sucks, but there is a good reason for it. It allows us to identify our shortcomings and adapt. A month into this inoculation process, how are we not better after our City Govt's six months of inoculation planning?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/coronavirus-vaccine-dc-virginia-maryland/2021/01/04/399c7280-4e8d-11eb-b96e-0e54447b23a1_story.html


“In the District, that number stands at about 17,000 of 40,075 delivered doses. But city officials said only 58 percent of health-care providers are fully reporting their vaccine administrations to the city’s immunization information system. Totals won’t be accurate until providers learn how to use the system correctly and consistently, D.C. officials said.”


And when will that be? Is Health Dept. Fanning out to train then?? How do they know when to move to next phase (MD already is). How do they ensure no wastage of doses? This random standby list or grabbing millenials who happeb to be out shopping?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here is today's WaPo numbers update for DC: 40K doses available at the time of these numbers.

In District of Columbia....
16,989 doses have been administered,
covering 5.9% of the prioritized population...
and 2.4% of the state’s population.


WaPo Today (Thursday):
In District of Columbia....
17,475 doses have been administered,
covering 6.1% of the prioritized population...
and 2.5% of the state’s population.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT! ONLY 486 DOSES ADMINISTERED YESTERDAY!!!!
Anonymous
This is borderline criminal. What does Nesbitt do everyday. IF you were to assume that vaccinations are not conducted on weekends and only on working days, there have been 16 working days since the vaccine was first administered in DC.

That means that we are administering on average 1092 doses per day. What is DCHealth doing? This is the vaunted plan which they have been working on since August?

The good news is that at 1000 doses a day it will only take DC 750 days or two years to inoculate its population.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is today's WaPo numbers update for DC: 40K doses available at the time of these numbers.

In District of Columbia....
16,989 doses have been administered,
covering 5.9% of the prioritized population...
and 2.4% of the state’s population.


WaPo Today (Thursday):
In District of Columbia....
17,475 doses have been administered,
covering 6.1% of the prioritized population...
and 2.5% of the state’s population.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT! ONLY 486 DOSES ADMINISTERED YESTERDAY!!!!


Those numbers have to be off or Nesbitt would have been fired. I am sure that similar to election returns, the Post is managing to mess this up.

The reported number is funny though. She could have had more people vaccinated by just jabbing people walking into Whole Foods.
Anonymous
486 is unnacceptable. Saying the Post must have made a mistake is weird. Either not enough doses are being administered, or the city has a serious reporting issue they need to clear up. Either way, that falls on the Dept. of Health. What, you think the Post just left off a zero?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:486 is unnacceptable. Saying the Post must have made a mistake is weird. Either not enough doses are being administered, or the city has a serious reporting issue they need to clear up. Either way, that falls on the Dept. of Health. What, you think the Post just left off a zero?


If Nesbitt were actually qualified for her position, she could have solved either of these two identified problems weeks ago.

Unfortunately, I believe that DC has decided that these pathetic numbers are acceptable. It is easier to blame somebody else than to fix the problem.
Anonymous
Dr. Nesbitt's claim to fame is that she is an Affordable Care Act implementation specialist. As much as some of us may agree with the affordable care act, we can all agree that it was never implemented in a sustainable fashion. It is no wonder she is far beyond her capabilities now.

500 people inoculated in a day is scandalous. But she is a political appointee and a part of the political machine. She is untouchable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:486 is unnacceptable. Saying the Post must have made a mistake is weird. Either not enough doses are being administered, or the city has a serious reporting issue they need to clear up. Either way, that falls on the Dept. of Health. What, you think the Post just left off a zero?


If Nesbitt were actually qualified for her position, she could have solved either of these two identified problems weeks ago.

Unfortunately, I believe that DC has decided that these pathetic numbers are acceptable. It is easier to blame somebody else than to fix the problem.


400 a day makes NO SENSE. 300 people came down with covid yesterday in DC. We are not going to beat back this disease at this rate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is today's WaPo numbers update for DC: 40K doses available at the time of these numbers.

In District of Columbia....
16,989 doses have been administered,
covering 5.9% of the prioritized population...
and 2.4% of the state’s population.


WaPo Today (Thursday):
In District of Columbia....
17,475 doses have been administered,
covering 6.1% of the prioritized population...
and 2.5% of the state’s population.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT! ONLY 486 DOSES ADMINISTERED YESTERDAY!!!!


WaPo Today (Friday):
In District of Columbia....
19,366 doses have been administered,
covering 6.1% of the prioritized population...
and 2.5% of the state’s population.

So 1,891 doses administered Thursday.
Anonymous
My understanding is far fewer eligible 1A individuals are willing to take the vaccine than expected, which is troubling.

A friend who works in a job that is ill-defined but might be sort of toward the bottom of 1A was contacted at the beginning of this week as eligible to sign up through her job in DC. She was confused, thinking it was a mistake. Nope...called, and was told they are moving on because the further up groups are just not showing up for the vaccine.
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