Too early to start thinking W&M/UVA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are just under 17000 undergrads at UVA. 24% of the males are in fraternities, 27% of females in sororities. That means about 75%, or over 12000 students, are NOT involved in Greek life. Sorry but if your child can’t find friends/people with common interests/etc. among that group of 12,000- that sounds like a “them” problem, not a UVA problem.

It's a good point.

If you think UVa is fratty, you would be blow the heck away at other public schools. There are publics that need the frats for housing. There are publics that let the frats run their rush BEFORE freshman even start school.

A school that enforces a delayed rush (meaning you can't join a frat until after your first semester) and has such a small percentage going Greek shouldn't be in a "too fratty" list.

[Anonymous]

They’re all just preparing themselves for the supreme likelihood that their kids won’t get in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, my DD had a 4.0 (U)/4.3 (W) after her freshman year. That is the max she could get without gaming the system.

Sophomore year, she ran into some roadblocks. I am really proud of the way she felt with them -- she had to work through some issues. Her GPA for the sophomore year is 3.7U/4.0W. UVA may or may not be in play, but frankly, I do not think the social scene at UVA is heathy, with the frat culture. W & M, maybe. But with her diagnosis, (during the year: HFA), she would be better served at a smaller school. (W & M would probably be ok).

Find the school that is right for your daughter. UVA/W & M are excellent schools, but might not be right for her. (My DD is fascinated by RPI).

Lol I’m sure you thought UVA was fine when DD had a 4.3. Now all the sudden it’s too fratty.

UVA grad here. It is too fratty. I will be actively discouraging my child from attending.

Ha ha. Your child has to get in first.

[Anonymous]

Two of our daughters went to UVA. Both joined a sorority, both enjoyed the experience and made good friends — then both graduated and went off to do their part to save the world. We are very proud of them. Two of the most liberal and level-headed young women you’d ever meet.

You all need to have more faith in your children’s ability to make the right decisions for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two of our daughters went to UVA. Both joined a sorority, both enjoyed the experience and made good friends — then both graduated and went off to do their part to save the world. We are very proud of them. Two of the most liberal and level-headed young women you’d ever meet.

You all need to have more faith in your children’s ability to make the right decisions for themselves.

Why mention this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, my DD had a 4.0 (U)/4.3 (W) after her freshman year. That is the max she could get without gaming the system.

Sophomore year, she ran into some roadblocks. I am really proud of the way she felt with them -- she had to work through some issues. Her GPA for the sophomore year is 3.7U/4.0W. UVA may or may not be in play, but frankly, I do not think the social scene at UVA is heathy, with the frat culture. W & M, maybe. But with her diagnosis, (during the year: HFA), she would be better served at a smaller school. (W & M would probably be ok).

Find the school that is right for your daughter. UVA/W & M are excellent schools, but might not be right for her. (My DD is fascinated by RPI).

I'm a W&M undergrad, UVA grad and grew up near C'ville. Both schools actually have about the same percentage in greek system. Perhaps a bit more intense at UVA, but as other posters indicated, UVA is big enough to find a good circle of friends outside. I don't think it really makes that much difference at W&M either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two of our daughters went to UVA. Both joined a sorority, both enjoyed the experience and made good friends — then both graduated and went off to do their part to save the world. We are very proud of them. Two of the most liberal and level-headed young women you’d ever meet.

You all need to have more faith in your children’s ability to make the right decisions for themselves.

In what capacity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two of our daughters went to UVA. Both joined a sorority, both enjoyed the experience and made good friends — then both graduated and went off to do their part to save the world. We are very proud of them. Two of the most liberal and level-headed young women you’d ever meet.

You all need to have more faith in your children’s ability to make the right decisions for themselves.

Save the world from what, specifically? Saving the world from Trump, I could understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are just under 17000 undergrads at UVA. 24% of the males are in fraternities, 27% of females in sororities. That means about 75%, or over 12000 students, are NOT involved in Greek life. Sorry but if your child can’t find friends/people with common interests/etc. among that group of 12,000- that sounds like a “them” problem, not a UVA problem.

It's a good point.

If you think UVa is fratty, you would be blow the heck away at other public schools. There are publics that need the frats for housing. There are publics that let the frats run their rush BEFORE freshman even start school.

A school that enforces a delayed rush (meaning you can't join a frat until after your first semester) and has such a small percentage going Greek shouldn't be in a "too fratty" list.

There are also privates that need the frats for housing. Some major universities are changing this, due to problems that have created law suits.

[Anonymous]

Go ahead and dream. Dream in orange and blue and green and gold. Most folks dream about Harbord crimson, but whatever floats your middle class boat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Go ahead and dream. Dream in orange and blue and green and gold. Most folks dream about Harbord crimson, but whatever floats your middle class boat.

^ Harvard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, my DD had a 4.0 (U)/4.3 (W) after her freshman year. That is the max she could get without gaming the system.

Sophomore year, she ran into some roadblocks. I am really proud of the way she felt with them -- she had to work through some issues. Her GPA for the sophomore year is 3.7U/4.0W. UVA may or may not be in play, but frankly, I do not think the social scene at UVA is heathy, with the frat culture. W & M, maybe. But with her diagnosis, (during the year: HFA), she would be better served at a smaller school. (W & M would probably be ok).

Find the school that is right for your daughter. UVA/W & M are excellent schools, but might not be right for her. (My DD is fascinated by RPI).

Lol I’m sure you thought UVA was fine when DD had a 4.3. Now all the sudden it’s too fratty.

PP here. Always was too fratty for my taste. I am fine with W & M. It will largely come down do how she does in the Junior year. 4 AP's, 1 H, and 2 regular classes. If she does well, then she will have one set of choices. If she does not well, then a different set of choices. But, at this point, after what happened this year, I just want her to be ok physically and emotionally.

[Anonymous]

Greeks are a higher percentage at W&M than they are UVA, FWIW...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our DD just finished her freshman year with a cumulative GPA of 4.16 UW/4.48 W (A+'s are counted as 4.3 in LCPS). We can start dreaming about in-state elite colleges, right?

It’s never too early to start thinking about UVA/WM.

[Anonymous]

What's there to think about? Thinking won't make it any more likely to happen. Op's time and mental energy is better spent researching acceptable alternatives.

If it happens, it happens.