Protecting undocumented students (families) in DC schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

Really funny considering how many people have no problem reporting people they think come from MD or VA. The kids aren't the ones breaking the law in that situation either.

Maybe--just maybe--it has to do with the severity of the consequences for the children.

So by extension, if the consequences of your criminal behavior are severe (because they're designed to be severe because it's a more serious crime) then you should get away with it? We should only punish less severe crimes?

Let's let all the murderers out of prison, but keep in the guys who were selling dime bags on the corner? (After all the consequences of the one are just too severe! We can only punish those whose offenses are less severe...)

You don't get it, PP, and I frankly don't understand your obsession unless you are a xenophobic racist -- are you?

The student from El Salvador may well be legal, following every rule: he is as American as you are (having been born here), and his legal address is within the boundary (because he does live in a real house with a real address).

From the school's point of view, that kid is 100% legit.

What's your problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:President-elect Trump basically said if they're naughty, they will have to go. If they're nice, they can stay.

His transition team is not backing that up - can't get to 3 million with just the 'naughty' ones.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:President-elect Trump basically said if they're naughty, they will have to go. If they're nice, they can stay.

His transition team is not backing that up - can't get to 3 million with just the 'naughty' ones.

He said 2 million, perhaps up to 3, but he led by saying only those with criminal records...not the "nice" ones.

Btw, let's remember that Obama deported 1.5 million immigrants in his first term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of it all!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

Really funny considering how many people have no problem reporting people they think come from MD or VA. The kids aren't the ones breaking the law in that situation either.

You are a fool. How dare you equate the two?

If a kid gets caught in a DC school residency cheating, he goes back to Maryland schools. His parents might have to pay for the cost of his DC education. They had the option of attending school in Maryland, but convenience or other reasons put them in a DC school.

If a kid whose parents are undocumented workers, or if the child is undocumented, they get sent back to another country they might not know, might not speak the language, and they lose everything they worked hard for here. Families can be torn apart with the U.S. Citizen child being left here while the parents are deported into a potentially dangerous situation. Americans love hiring cheap immigrant labor, but have no understanding of the consequences of deportation.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of it all!

Many of the Central American immigrants are here because they are refugees. If you had the same situation you would leave too. You are a disgusting person.

[Anonymous]

Anyone who is an immersion school especially Spanish is benefitting from refugees who may have been undocumented when they originally came. You should remember this when you get excited about you snowflake's amazing vocabulary in Spanish.

I'm sure your child has more respect than you do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy of it all!

What hypocrisy? Again, from all the school knows those kids can be 100% legal, both in terms of citizenship and residence. If schools often cannot even properly verify residence, how exactly do you want them to verify immigration status, even if they wanted? And if they can't, what should they do -- subject all Latino and Asian kids and their families to some in-depth interrogation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What protections are there to stop schools from being required to report undocumented students to immigration?

Considering you don't have to prove you are a citizen to enroll in DC schools this point seems to be moot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Are your kids documented? Did Native Americans document your kids? Or did you have immigrants and their descendants document your kids?
I think the latter. In that case, why can't Salvadorians living here document the undocumented kids?
I don't understand why people voted for Trump, glad you do, because you don't seem to understand a whole lot other things.

[Anonymous]

none of you read the Supreme Court case on this actual issue that is mentioned on the first page of the thread, did you?

Plyler v. Doe. From 1982. When Reagan was president. Schools can't kick out undocumented kids who otherwise meet enrollment rules.

[Anonymous]

How can you be in school and be undocumented? They have no books?, no test papers?, no spiral notebooks?, no vaccination records? Surely they have documents, and pencils, and erasers?

Or did you mean illegal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most of the students in our elementary school are American citizens, because they were born here. We only get 2 to 3 newcomers a year. It's the parents and their support network that may face new policies.

Not true ...
That's why they build the International Academy for the new often unaccompanied minors that need support in school. Not that they should be reported as mayor says DC is a sanctuary city, it is not the schools job to police immigration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

Really funny considering how many people have no problem reporting people they think come from MD or VA. The kids aren't the ones breaking the law in that situation either.

Maybe--just maybe--it has to do with the severity of the consequences for the children.

So by extension, if the consequences of your criminal behavior are severe (because they're designed to be severe because it's a more serious crime) then you should get away with it? We should only punish less severe crimes?

Let's let all the murderers out of prison, but keep in the guys who were selling dime bags on the corner? (After all the consequences of the one are just too severe! We can only punish those whose offenses are less severe...)

+1 this is upsetting to me, because i'm not so sure that the consequences are less severe -- we have NO idea about residency cheaters and what the situation would be for children who are kicked out of dc schools (perhaps where their parents teach but would otherwise be lock-key children, otherwise). After all, it's not Bethesda/Potomac/Kensington/ChevyChase/SilverSpring families who would be cheating to get into the lower-ranked DC schools -- it's students who would otherwise be attending even scarier schools.

[Anonymous]

It would be unconscionable for our gov't to force an educator to take up the role of law enforcement.