Protecting undocumented students (families) in DC schools

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Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

But you are sure quick to report any hint of residency cheating. That's on the parents and not the kids, right? So if a kid from Mexico is in your school illegally, it's ok. If a kid from a different DC neighborhood dares to try it, you'll report it as fast as your fingers can dial the phone.

Uh... the difference is in most cases the undocumented child's parents are actually paying taxes in DC, where as the Maryland child's asshole parents are not.

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Most undocumented workers pay taxes, including many who have state and federal taxes withheld from their paychecks.

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And of course they pay property taxes where they live (directly or indirectly), just like everyone else.

The bigger question is how can an illegal immigrant get a job in the first place. Plenty of able boded citizens employable.

two quick thoughts:

1) Well, that's a question for the employers, not for the schools, isn't it?

2) These days being "able boded" is not as important as being "able brained"

Or "willing to work for wages that citizens will not."

I've long been annoyed by the argument "they do jobs Americans won't do!" That's b.s. There are no jobs Americans won't do. They just won't do them for free. Stop the flood of undocumented workers who will work for next to nothing, and the price of labor (largely accruing to low-skilled AA males) will increase.

Or maybe not. Georgia cracked down on illegal immigration (by passing a "papers, please" law), and the farmers couldn't find enough people to pick the crops and just let them rot in the field. They said Americans wouldn't do the job, but what they really meant was "Americans wouldn't do the jobs for the wages they were offering."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/05/17/the-law-of-unintended-consequences-georgias-immigration-law-backfires/2/#54fee87c1a7b

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Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

But you are sure quick to report any hint of residency cheating. That's on the parents and not the kids, right? So if a kid from Mexico is in your school illegally, it's ok. If a kid from a different DC neighborhood dares to try it, you'll report it as fast as your fingers can dial the phone.

Uh... the difference is in most cases the undocumented child's parents are actually paying taxes in DC, where as the Maryland child's asshole parents are not.

+1

Most undocumented workers pay taxes, including many who have state and federal taxes withheld from their paychecks.

+2.

And of course they pay property taxes where they live (directly or indirectly), just like everyone else.

The bigger question is how can an illegal immigrant get a job in the first place. Plenty of able boded citizens employable.

two quick thoughts:

1) Well, that's a question for the employers, not for the schools, isn't it?

2) These days being "able boded" is not as important as being "able brained"

Or "willing to work for wages that citizens will not."

I've long been annoyed by the argument "they do jobs Americans won't do!" That's b.s. There are no jobs Americans won't do. They just won't do them for free. Stop the flood of undocumented workers who will work for next to nothing, and the price of labor (largely accruing to low-skilled AA males) will increase.

Or maybe not. Georgia cracked down on illegal immigration (by passing a "papers, please" law), and the farmers couldn't find enough people to pick the crops and just let them rot in the field. They said Americans wouldn't do the job, but what they really meant was "Americans wouldn't do the jobs for the wages they were offering."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/05/17/the-law-of-unintended-consequences-georgias-immigration-law-backfires/2/#54fee87c1a7b

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This is pretty obvious, but the racists --some Trumpists, some Hillaryists-- have trouble dealing with facts.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

But you are sure quick to report any hint of residency cheating. That's on the parents and not the kids, right? So if a kid from Mexico is in your school illegally, it's ok. If a kid from a different DC neighborhood dares to try it, you'll report it as fast as your fingers can dial the phone.

Uh... the difference is in most cases the undocumented child's parents are actually paying taxes in DC, where as the Maryland child's asshole parents are not.

+1

Most undocumented workers pay taxes, including many who have state and federal taxes withheld from their paychecks.

+2.

And of course they pay property taxes where they live (directly or indirectly), just like everyone else.

The bigger question is how can an illegal immigrant get a job in the first place. Plenty of able boded citizens employable.

two quick thoughts:

1) Well, that's a question for the employers, not for the schools, isn't it?

2) These days being "able boded" is not as important as being "able brained"

Or "willing to work for wages that citizens will not."

I've long been annoyed by the argument "they do jobs Americans won't do!" That's b.s. There are no jobs Americans won't do. They just won't do them for free. Stop the flood of undocumented workers who will work for next to nothing, and the price of labor (largely accruing to low-skilled AA males) will increase.

Or maybe not. Georgia cracked down on illegal immigration (by passing a "papers, please" law), and the farmers couldn't find enough people to pick the crops and just let them rot in the field. They said Americans wouldn't do the job, but what they really meant was "Americans wouldn't do the jobs for the wages they were offering."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/05/17/the-law-of-unintended-consequences-georgias-immigration-law-backfires/2/#54fee87c1a7b

+1.

This is pretty obvious, but the racists --some Trumpists, some Hillaryists-- have trouble dealing with facts.

You want to pay higher grocery prices?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

But you are sure quick to report any hint of residency cheating. That's on the parents and not the kids, right? So if a kid from Mexico is in your school illegally, it's ok. If a kid from a different DC neighborhood dares to try it, you'll report it as fast as your fingers can dial the phone.

Uh... the difference is in most cases the undocumented child's parents are actually paying taxes in DC, where as the Maryland child's asshole parents are not.

+1

Most undocumented workers pay taxes, including many who have state and federal taxes withheld from their paychecks.

+2.

And of course they pay property taxes where they live (directly or indirectly), just like everyone else.

The bigger question is how can an illegal immigrant get a job in the first place. Plenty of able boded citizens employable.

two quick thoughts:

1) Well, that's a question for the employers, not for the schools, isn't it?

2) These days being "able boded" is not as important as being "able brained"

Or "willing to work for wages that citizens will not."

I've long been annoyed by the argument "they do jobs Americans won't do!" That's b.s. There are no jobs Americans won't do. They just won't do them for free. Stop the flood of undocumented workers who will work for next to nothing, and the price of labor (largely accruing to low-skilled AA males) will increase.

Or maybe not. Georgia cracked down on illegal immigration (by passing a "papers, please" law), and the farmers couldn't find enough people to pick the crops and just let them rot in the field. They said Americans wouldn't do the job, but what they really meant was "Americans wouldn't do the jobs for the wages they were offering."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/05/17/the-law-of-unintended-consequences-georgias-immigration-law-backfires/2/#54fee87c1a7b

+1.

This is pretty obvious, but the racists --some Trumpists, some Hillaryists-- have trouble dealing with facts.

You want to pay higher grocery prices?

Exactly.

But don't fear, soon enough Americans will take those jobs that pay nothing, because the safety net, that little that there is, will be gone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

Really funny considering how many people have no problem reporting people they think come from MD or VA. The kids aren't the ones breaking the law in that situation either.

You are a fool. How dare you equate the two?

If a kid gets caught in a DC school residency cheating, he goes back to Maryland schools. His parents might have to pay for the cost of his DC education. They had the option of attending school in Maryland, but convenience or other reasons put them in a DC school.

If a kid whose parents are undocumented workers, or if the child is undocumented, they get sent back to another country they might not know, might not speak the language, and they lose everything they worked hard for here. Families can be torn apart with the U.S. Citizen child being left here while the parents are deported into a potentially dangerous situation. Americans love hiring cheap immigrant labor, but have no understanding of the consequences of deportation.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh shut up. If they want to be together, they can all go home together. To their own damned country. Not ours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

Really funny considering how many people have no problem reporting people they think come from MD or VA. The kids aren't the ones breaking the law in that situation either.

You are a fool. How dare you equate the two?

If a kid gets caught in a DC school residency cheating, he goes back to Maryland schools. His parents might have to pay for the cost of his DC education. They had the option of attending school in Maryland, but convenience or other reasons put them in a DC school.

If a kid whose parents are undocumented workers, or if the child is undocumented, they get sent back to another country they might not know, might not speak the language, and they lose everything they worked hard for here. Families can be torn apart with the U.S. Citizen child being left here while the parents are deported into a potentially dangerous situation. Americans love hiring cheap immigrant labor, but have no understanding of the consequences of deportation.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh shut up. If they want to be together, they can all go home together. To their own damned country. Not ours.

Get over yourself. This country was built by immigrants. Your attitude is divisive and hateful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

Really funny considering how many people have no problem reporting people they think come from MD or VA. The kids aren't the ones breaking the law in that situation either.

You are a fool. How dare you equate the two?

If a kid gets caught in a DC school residency cheating, he goes back to Maryland schools. His parents might have to pay for the cost of his DC education. They had the option of attending school in Maryland, but convenience or other reasons put them in a DC school.

If a kid whose parents are undocumented workers, or if the child is undocumented, they get sent back to another country they might not know, might not speak the language, and they lose everything they worked hard for here. Families can be torn apart with the U.S. Citizen child being left here while the parents are deported into a potentially dangerous situation. Americans love hiring cheap immigrant labor, but have no understanding of the consequences of deportation.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh shut up. If they want to be together, they can all go home together. To their own damned country. Not ours.

Where exactly could we send you back?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

Really funny considering how many people have no problem reporting people they think come from MD or VA. The kids aren't the ones breaking the law in that situation either.

You are a fool. How dare you equate the two?

If a kid gets caught in a DC school residency cheating, he goes back to Maryland schools. His parents might have to pay for the cost of his DC education. They had the option of attending school in Maryland, but convenience or other reasons put them in a DC school.

If a kid whose parents are undocumented workers, or if the child is undocumented, they get sent back to another country they might not know, might not speak the language, and they lose everything they worked hard for here. Families can be torn apart with the U.S. Citizen child being left here while the parents are deported into a potentially dangerous situation. Americans love hiring cheap immigrant labor, but have no understanding of the consequences of deportation.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh shut up. If they want to be together, they can all go home together. To their own damned country. Not ours.

If the children are born here, this is their country too. Stop posting your racist agenda here on the DC boards.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

Really funny considering how many people have no problem reporting people they think come from MD or VA. The kids aren't the ones breaking the law in that situation either.

You are a fool. How dare you equate the two?

If a kid gets caught in a DC school residency cheating, he goes back to Maryland schools. His parents might have to pay for the cost of his DC education. They had the option of attending school in Maryland, but convenience or other reasons put them in a DC school.

If a kid whose parents are undocumented workers, or if the child is undocumented, they get sent back to another country they might not know, might not speak the language, and they lose everything they worked hard for here. Families can be torn apart with the U.S. Citizen child being left here while the parents are deported into a potentially dangerous situation. Americans love hiring cheap immigrant labor, but have no understanding of the consequences of deportation.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh shut up. If they want to be together, they can all go home together. To their own damned country. Not ours.

If the children are born here, this is their country too. Stop posting your racist agenda here on the DC boards.

anti-illegal-immigrant != racist

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

Really funny considering how many people have no problem reporting people they think come from MD or VA. The kids aren't the ones breaking the law in that situation either.

You are a fool. How dare you equate the two?

If a kid gets caught in a DC school residency cheating, he goes back to Maryland schools. His parents might have to pay for the cost of his DC education. They had the option of attending school in Maryland, but convenience or other reasons put them in a DC school.

If a kid whose parents are undocumented workers, or if the child is undocumented, they get sent back to another country they might not know, might not speak the language, and they lose everything they worked hard for here. Families can be torn apart with the U.S. Citizen child being left here while the parents are deported into a potentially dangerous situation. Americans love hiring cheap immigrant labor, but have no understanding of the consequences of deportation.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh shut up. If they want to be together, they can all go home together. To their own damned country. Not ours.

If the children are born here, this is their country too. Stop posting your racist agenda here on the DC boards.

anti-illegal-immigrant != racist

Yes your rant was racist. You are a racist. Own it. You are disgusting and I'm ashamed that you call yourself American.

Also people are not illegal, they are undocumented. You are not a legal person, you're a person. You have legal documentation.

You'd scream bloody murder if the government tried to separate your family. But if dark skinned, Spanish speaking people have their families torn apart, you are gleeful. That's racist and that makes you disgusting. You make me sick.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

Really funny considering how many people have no problem reporting people they think come from MD or VA. The kids aren't the ones breaking the law in that situation either.

You are a fool. How dare you equate the two?

If a kid gets caught in a DC school residency cheating, he goes back to Maryland schools. His parents might have to pay for the cost of his DC education. They had the option of attending school in Maryland, but convenience or other reasons put them in a DC school.

If a kid whose parents are undocumented workers, or if the child is undocumented, they get sent back to another country they might not know, might not speak the language, and they lose everything they worked hard for here. Families can be torn apart with the U.S. Citizen child being left here while the parents are deported into a potentially dangerous situation. Americans love hiring cheap immigrant labor, but have no understanding of the consequences of deportation.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh shut up. If they want to be together, they can all go home together. To their own damned country. Not ours.

If the children are born here, this is their country too. Stop posting your racist agenda here on the DC boards.

anti-illegal-immigrant != racist

Yes your rant was racist. You are a racist. Own it. You are disgusting and I'm ashamed that you call yourself American.

Also people are not illegal, they are undocumented. You are not a legal person, you're a person. You have legal documentation.

You'd scream bloody murder if the government tried to separate your family. But if dark skinned, Spanish speaking people have their families torn apart, you are gleeful. That's racist and that makes you disgusting. You make me sick.

np: The government isn't capriciously seeking to tear families apart. They are trying to enforce law.

My family is not at risk of that treatment because my family hadn't willfully broken a law for which deportation is a codified consequence.

[Anonymous]

They are treating their own families for breaking the law.

When a murderer is arrested and his or her offspring is removed from the subject's household, do you blame the government

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, why shouldn't schools be required to report undocumented students? I'm troubled by the implication that being undocumented is perfectly A-OK. It isn't.

That attitude is why a lot of people went for Trump. I didn't, but I understand why people did.

Because presumably their parents are the ones who broke the law, not the students.

Really funny considering how many people have no problem reporting people they think come from MD or VA. The kids aren't the ones breaking the law in that situation either.

You are a fool. How dare you equate the two?

If a kid gets caught in a DC school residency cheating, he goes back to Maryland schools. His parents might have to pay for the cost of his DC education. They had the option of attending school in Maryland, but convenience or other reasons put them in a DC school.

If a kid whose parents are undocumented workers, or if the child is undocumented, they get sent back to another country they might not know, might not speak the language, and they lose everything they worked hard for here. Families can be torn apart with the U.S. Citizen child being left here while the parents are deported into a potentially dangerous situation. Americans love hiring cheap immigrant labor, but have no understanding of the consequences of deportation.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Oh shut up. If they want to be together, they can all go home together. To their own damned country. Not ours.

If the children are born here, this is their country too. Stop posting your racist agenda here on the DC boards.

anti-illegal-immigrant != racist

Yes your rant was racist. You are a racist. Own it. You are disgusting and I'm ashamed that you call yourself American.

Also people are not illegal, they are undocumented. You are not a legal person, you're a person. You have legal documentation.

You'd scream bloody murder if the government tried to separate your family. But if dark skinned, Spanish speaking people have their families torn apart, you are gleeful. That's racist and that makes you disgusting. You make me sick.

Sick or not, they have to go back. The parents can decide whether to leave their citizen children with alternate legal caretakers here or take them back with them. And they have no one to blame for this difficult choice but themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are treating their own families for breaking the law.

When a murderer is arrested and his or her offspring is removed from the subject's household, do you blame the government

Oh, please, you are ridiculous


A murderer is a murderer.

An immigrant who overstayed a tourist visa to work here, and is probably raising a family and wants to pay full taxes is NOT a murderer.

Can you truly not see the difference?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are treating their own families for breaking the law.

When a murderer is arrested and his or her offspring is removed from the subject's household, do you blame the government

Oh, please, you are ridiculous


A murderer is a murderer.

An immigrant who overstayed a tourist visa to work here, and is probably raising a family and wants to pay full taxes is NOT a murderer.

Can you truly not see the difference?

Doesn't matter. Buh-bye. Don't forget to write.