So, John and Kate have spoken. Do you think they'll stay together?

[Anonymous]

oh please - like they can choose to step out of the limelight right now?

and a "reality" show is as "real" as the editors of the show choose to make it. If you think that you know these people because you watch a tv program about their lives, you are delusional.

[Anonymous]

I've only watched bits and pieces of the show (out of curiosity after hearing about it on here). What it's taught me is to watch what I say and how I say it to my husband. I can totally understand the frusteration of a mom with a husband who is like another kid, but Kate comes across as such a mean person. And then I realized, wow, I say things like that sometimes. So now I try extra hard to bite my tongue and work out issues, not just make side comments. It's so destructive.

On a more shallow note, I really don't understand why Kate wanted kids. She is so anti-mess, everything must be in order, and on one episode she went on and on about how she's not a morning person so she couldn't possibly help get her kids ready for school. WTF? You have 8 kids.

[Anonymous]

I echo what some PPs have mentioned about how they speak to their husbands. I have watched a few times and have seen faint bit of myself in Kate when she's talking to (or rather, talking down to) Jon. It has taught me to be careful in how I select my words and my tone, and that in the end some of the things I get frustrated about are just not worth it. In my opinion, a happy family trumps a dirty or disorganized house every time,

[Anonymous]

In defense of Kate, I just think she is used to being a mom all day to 8 kids. So, when she talks to Jon, sometimes I think she accidentally talks to him like she talks to the kids. I don't think she does it on purpose or has malicious intent behind it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I can say is that after watching tonights episode, Jon seems to be much more connected with his children then his wife.

I had the opposite impression...

Really? I think what made me feel he was more connected with the kids, was how he was with them. He seems to allow them to be kids more and understands that they are kids. As for Kate, I cannot count how many times she made a face when one of the kids came up to her and bothered her. She was exhausted from spending ONE day with them, whereas Jon stays home with them most of the time. I feel like Kate expects them to be mini adults who are perfectly in line with what she wants.

I felt that when Kate was with her kids, she was making herself be a certain way to show "yes, I am a good mother". I am not saying she does not love her kids...but I just don't get that motherly love vibe from her. I only seem to get it when she is talking about them without them actually being around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In defense of Kate, I just think she is used to being a mom all day to 8 kids. So, when she talks to Jon, sometimes I think she accidentally talks to him like she talks to the kids. I don't think she does it on purpose or has malicious intent behind it.

Actually, Jon is the one who is with the kids most of the time now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it must be very hard to sit where they sit, having their lives fall apart in prime time. To those who accuse them of "whoring" out their children, I don't think that they anticipated what this reality show would mean to their lives, and I think that they jumped at the chance to make enough money to support their family.

As for Kate, she is kind of a bitch, but John is very passive. If he didn't want to be a father, he should have said so before they went through fertility treatments both times.

I have very little sympathy for her. She is making it much worse. At the first sign of trouble she should have pulled back. From what I understand, and I know as much as you so have just as much right to base my opinion on what I know, she travels all the time and never sees the kids. And when she is home she is tanning, getting french manicures, or working out with her personal trainer. If she was an actress that would be one thing, she could maybe justify by saying she gets paid for her appearance. But she is on a reality show about raising multiples. I think she is sooo selfish not to sink every bit of money they earn back into college funds, etc.

The show could, and probably will, disappear tomorrow. As the kids age and all start school, no one will really care how adorable a trip to Target with 8 middle school kids are. She is completely selling out her life, and ruining her relationship with her kids. In my opinion she is 100% whoring them out and I think she is dispicible. I would never wish divorce on anyone and I hope they can save their family, but right now she is really not trying. Step away from the tanning salon and spend some time with your kids.

[Anonymous]

They make me sick. I've learned that NOBODY should have 6 babies at once. Kate is whoring out her children so she can make a fortune and I for one am not tuning in.

[Anonymous]

it takes 15 min to get a tan and it takes 40 min to get a french manicure.
she's right. raising 8 is not easy and she deserves time for herself.

[Anonymous]

They make me sick. I've learned that NOBODY should have 6 babies at once. Kate is whoring out her children so she can make a fortune and I for one am not tuning in.

that's right! Mandatory selective reduction for all potential mothers of mass multiples!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

that's right! Mandatory selective reduction for all potential mothers of mass multiples!

I'm sure you are stirring the pot, but I'm biting. How about serious fines for doctors that get women pregnant with that many babies? Then maybe the doctors will think twice about doing risky fertility procedures that can result in quads, quints, sextuplets...UH, OCTUPLETS!

And when we have a show about how great it is to have sextuplets (and soon the octuplet show), and how healthy they are, we give women who will be in similar situations (pregnant with mass multiples -- as you put it) a false sense of security that her pregnancy will be fine and her babies will all be born alive and healthy. "If Kate can do it, I can do it!" This is not the case. If you've ever seen a family live through giving birth to preemie(s) that survives but will never walk, talk or feed themselves, you know how devastating this is for everybody involved.

[Anonymous]

I'm not trying to stir the pot, but point out the fact that they didn't get pregnant with sextuplets intentionally, and that to say that nobody should have six kids at once is a no-brainer. Fact is, the kids are here, and the family is doing their best to raise them. Too bad that their life is tabloid fodder and that we all feel empowered to judge and sling mud at them, or use words like "whore" to describe them.

[Anonymous]

to PP at 9:59. There are ways to avoid getting pregnant with that many babies. Like canceling an IUI or clomid induced cycle that has that many follicles or not transferring a million embryos during an IVF. To say she didn't "intentionally" get pregnant with that many babies is hilarious.

And as far as being "tabloid fodder" -- THEY HAVE CREATED THIS. When you put your family on TV and get paid, including free products, your life (all of it) is a free-for-all for the media. This is what celebrity means. And she is whoring her children out. By definition "whoring" means to compromise one's principles for personal gain. She is doing just that, and her children are going to be the ones to pay the price. Sad, sad, sad!

[Anonymous]

I doubt that many of us could either resist the offer to make a lot of money, nor could our marriages survive the unforgiving eye of the media. Why so much anger directed at either J&K or N. Suleyman? I think that it's either jealousy or a foil for our own feelings of inadequacy.

[Anonymous]

I agree with PP. Instead of persecuting and name-calling, think if you had 8 children, 6 of them the same age, with two solidly middle class salaries, what would you do? Who wouldn't do their best to provide for their children? I'm not sure if I could handle having a camera crew in our home all of the time, but that's because I am a very private person. But I am sure that I would be tempted to give the show a try if I thought it meant a better life for my children. Anyone saying they wouldn't do it or at least be tempted to do so isn't being honest with themselves.