So frustrated at number of products using soy/soybean oil/ soy lecithin

Anonymous
I feel your pain. OP. I hate the taste of soy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And tell me again what is wrong with soybeans?



Nothing unless you are allergic like my dd (new poster).


I knew someone whose kid was allergic to soybeans but not soybean oil. She said it was different. Same for someone whose kid had a peanut allergy. Peanut oil was fine apparently.
Anonymous
When my dad couldn't have soy for a few years (some new med he had to take, Dr said no soy, it would cause a reaction..and it did when he forgot once) it was very hard to find any bread, crackers, even a gourmet chocolate bar, you name it, everything has soy in it.

Looked at about 60 types of bread one time when he came to visit and finally found one bag of bagels that I could buy to use for his sandwiches. Yep seems like there's soy in everything!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously, you just need to cook from scratch. What are you using that has all these ingredients. Buy meat, veggies, fruits, some dairy - whole and complete foods. Cook those with olive or coconut oil. Use real spices and herbs to flavor your food. Problem solved!


+1

The only "food" that contains soy products is processed food from the middle aisles of the grocery store.

Stop buying shit in boxes, bags, packets and wrappers.


NP here who's kid is also allergic to soy (including soy lecithin). While I cook almost everything from scratch, I've read labels and found soy in the most random things such as:
chapstick/lip gloss
Almost all brands of cooking spray (except for Pam Grilling and a new $8/can coconut spray). We usually use olive oil in a mister, but food still sticks when baking
Tea (not the pre-made bottled stuff either, but the actual tea bags)
Gum
Store-brand children's ibuprofen tablets
Lotion

Then you have all the products that have "manufactured in a facility that processes soy" or "made on equipment that processes soy" on their label.
Trust me, it's in way more things than you think.

Anonymous
DD is also allergic and it's hard as hell to avoid soy. It's a good thing I have the time to read every label and then make even common foods from scratch. Want a sandwich? No problem- give me about 4hours to make the bread and I'll be right with you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I still want to know what is wrong with soybeans???


Soy is an inflammatory food.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DD is also allergic and it's hard as hell to avoid soy. It's a good thing I have the time to read every label and then make even common foods from scratch. Want a sandwich? No problem- give me about 4hours to make the bread and I'll be right with you.

I'm the pp above you (also have soy-allergic child). I don't know if your DD has any other allergies, but here are some good options we've been able to find. I do make my own sometimes, but it's a quick-bread recipe (1 45-60 min rise, no kneading). I can post the recipe later if you're interested.
Trader Joe's Whole Wheat Tuscan-style panne (sp?) - the non-whole wheat has a soy/dairy warning, the whole wheat version does not
Trader Joe's brand British-style English Muffins
Archer Farms (Target brand) Take-and-bake rolls and Ciabatta bread (found in the produce area)

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I knew someone whose kid was allergic to soybeans but not soybean oil. She said it was different. Same for someone whose kid had a peanut allergy. Peanut oil was fine apparently.


This is because some people (like my wife) are allergic to the proteins in peanuts and can eat peanut oil without reaction. Some people (like my children) are allergic to the whole peanut, protein and oil and cannot have either. You should avoid all products, both the legume and the oil until you know for certain whether you'll react to both. See an allergist who can help you determine whether the oil is safe for you or not. This is individual and you cannot generalize this from one peanut or soy allergic person to the next.
Anonymous
In Europe they are very soy-sensitive. For instance, regular baby formula doesn't include soy. Try finding soy-free baby formula here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD is also allergic and it's hard as hell to avoid soy. It's a good thing I have the time to read every label and then make even common foods from scratch. Want a sandwich? No problem- give me about 4hours to make the bread and I'll be right with you.

I'm the pp above you (also have soy-allergic child). I don't know if your DD has any other allergies, but here are some good options we've been able to find. I do make my own sometimes, but it's a quick-bread recipe (1 45-60 min rise, no kneading). I can post the recipe later if you're interested.
Trader Joe's Whole Wheat Tuscan-style panne (sp?) - the non-whole wheat has a soy/dairy warning, the whole wheat version does not
Trader Joe's brand British-style English Muffins
Archer Farms (Target brand) Take-and-bake rolls and Ciabatta bread (found in the produce area)



You are awesome- thanks! I'd love your quick bread recipe. I've also found (yesterday) that the LaBrea bread brand at Harris Teeter has some take-and-bake French rolls that are good. It's regular old sandwich loaf bread that's difficult. DD is allergic to dairy and soy, so I'm getting pretty good substituting other fats for butter and 'milks' for cow milk. Found out today that soy lecithin from a few chocolate chips caused a reaction, so we're not chancing more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD is also allergic and it's hard as hell to avoid soy. It's a good thing I have the time to read every label and then make even common foods from scratch. Want a sandwich? No problem- give me about 4hours to make the bread and I'll be right with you.

I'm the pp above you (also have soy-allergic child). I don't know if your DD has any other allergies, but here are some good options we've been able to find. I do make my own sometimes, but it's a quick-bread recipe (1 45-60 min rise, no kneading). I can post the recipe later if you're interested.
Trader Joe's Whole Wheat Tuscan-style panne (sp?) - the non-whole wheat has a soy/dairy warning, the whole wheat version does not
Trader Joe's brand British-style English Muffins
Archer Farms (Target brand) Take-and-bake rolls and Ciabatta bread (found in the produce area)



You are awesome- thanks! I'd love your quick bread recipe. I've also found (yesterday) that the LaBrea bread brand at Harris Teeter has some take-and-bake French rolls that are good. It's regular old sandwich loaf bread that's difficult. DD is allergic to dairy and soy, so I'm getting pretty good substituting other fats for butter and 'milks' for cow milk. Found out today that soy lecithin from a few chocolate chips caused a reaction, so we're not chancing more.

Our son is also allergic to dairy in addition to soy. Sure does make grocery shopping an adventure! Enjoy Life Foods chocolate chips are completely free of the top 8 allergens and they taste like "regular" chocolate chips.

Here's the quick bread recipe. It's actually an English muffin style bread, but our son will eat it with PB&J, as toast with butter, with soup, etc. The best cooking spray I've found so far is from Williams Sonoma - it's soy free (hurray!) and works really well. http://www.williams-sonoma.com/m/products/bak-klene-zt-nonstick-baking-spray/

Ingredients
1-2 tsp yellow cornmeal (optional, IMO)
2-2 1/2 C all-purpose flour
1/2 C quick cooking oats
1 package active dry yeast
1 tsp salt
1 1/4 C skim milk (I use plain coconut milk)
1 Tbl honey
1/4 tsp baking soda

1. Spray 8x4x2-inch loaf pan with cooking spray and coat with cornmeal (every time I tried this with olive oil the bread stuck)
2. Combine 1 1/2 C flour, oats, yeast, and salt in large bowl
3. Heat milk and honey until warm (110-120 degrees) in small saucepan; stir in baking soda
4. Add milk mixture to flour mixture, mixing until smooth. Stir enough of remaining 1 C flour to make a thick batter. (I've found that I usually don't need that much more flour since coconut milk is thicker than skim milk - can add a little more milk to thin the mixture if wanted)
5. Pour into prepared pan. Let rise, covered, in a warm place until double in size, 45-60 min
6. Bake at 400 degrees until bread is golden and sounds hollow when tapped, 25-30 min.
7. Remove from pan immediately and cool on wire rack

Can make it cinnamon raisin bread by omitting the cornmeal and adding a teaspoon of cinnamon and 1/2 C of raisins to the batter.
Anonymous
Pp here. Just reread your post and saw you were looking for a sandwich-style loaf.

This one looks pretty good (could sub coconut oil for lard): http://m.allrecipes.com/recipe/20066/traditional-white-bread

I may try it this weekend

King Arthur Flour also has some highly rated sandwich bread recipes on their site.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DD is also allergic and it's hard as hell to avoid soy. It's a good thing I have the time to read every label and then make even common foods from scratch. Want a sandwich? No problem- give me about 4hours to make the bread and I'll be right with you.

I'm the pp above you (also have soy-allergic child). I don't know if your DD has any other allergies, but here are some good options we've been able to find. I do make my own sometimes, but it's a quick-bread recipe (1 45-60 min rise, no kneading). I can post the recipe later if you're interested.
Trader Joe's Whole Wheat Tuscan-style panne (sp?) - the non-whole wheat has a soy/dairy warning, the whole wheat version does not
Trader Joe's brand British-style English Muffins
Archer Farms (Target brand) Take-and-bake rolls and Ciabatta bread (found in the produce area)



You are awesome- thanks! I'd love your quick bread recipe. I've also found (yesterday) that the LaBrea bread brand at Harris Teeter has some take-and-bake French rolls that are good. It's regular old sandwich loaf bread that's difficult. DD is allergic to dairy and soy, so I'm getting pretty good substituting other fats for butter and 'milks' for cow milk. Found out today that soy lecithin from a few chocolate chips caused a reaction, so we're not chancing more.

Our son is also allergic to dairy in addition to soy. Sure does make grocery shopping an adventure! Enjoy Life Foods chocolate chips are completely free of the top 8 allergens and they taste like "regular" chocolate chips.

Here's the quick bread recipe. It's actually an English muffin style bread, but our son will eat it with PB&J, as toast with butter, with soup, etc. The best cooking spray I've found so far is from Williams Sonoma - it's soy free (hurray!) and works really well. http://www.williams-sonoma.com/m/products/bak-klene-zt-nonstick-baking-spray/

Ingredients
1-2 tsp yellow cornmeal (optional, IMO)
2-2 1/2 C all-purpose flour
1/2 C quick cooking oats
1 package active dry yeast
1 tsp salt
1 1/4 C skim milk (I use plain coconut milk)
1 Tbl honey
1/4 tsp baking soda

1. Spray 8x4x2-inch loaf pan with cooking spray and coat with cornmeal (every time I tried this with olive oil the bread stuck)
2. Combine 1 1/2 C flour, oats, yeast, and salt in large bowl
3. Heat milk and honey until warm (110-120 degrees) in small saucepan; stir in baking soda
4. Add milk mixture to flour mixture, mixing until smooth. Stir enough of remaining 1 C flour to make a thick batter. (I've found that I usually don't need that much more flour since coconut milk is thicker than skim milk - can add a little more milk to thin the mixture if wanted)
5. Pour into prepared pan. Let rise, covered, in a warm place until double in size, 45-60 min
6. Bake at 400 degrees until bread is golden and sounds hollow when tapped, 25-30 min.
7. Remove from pan immediately and cool on wire rack

Can make it cinnamon raisin bread by omitting the cornmeal and adding a teaspoon of cinnamon and 1/2 C of raisins to the batter.



That sounds delicious- thank you so much! I'll try it this weekend, and perhaps the second recipe link you shared too. DD likes English muffins, so the bread is likely to be a hit. Love the King Arthur site for regular baking so will give it a whirl. This recipe is good, but it's the 4-hr kind: http://carpeseason.com/whole-wheat-sandwich-bread-attempt-2/

I think I need a few more hours in the week to cook and bake so I can stay on top of this special diet....
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
That sounds delicious- thank you so much! I'll try it this weekend, and perhaps the second recipe link you shared too. DD likes English muffins, so the bread is likely to be a hit. Love the King Arthur site for regular baking so will give it a whirl. This recipe is good, but it's the 4-hr kind: http://carpeseason.com/whole-wheat-sandwich-bread-attempt-2/

I think I need a few more hours in the week to cook and bake so I can stay on top of this special diet....

Ha! Me, too!
One of the requirements for when we eventually move is space for an upright freezer. I bake/cook and store what I can in our regular freezer, but I would love not to have to do "special" cooking and baking quite so often!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seriously, you just need to cook from scratch. What are you using that has all these ingredients. Buy meat, veggies, fruits, some dairy - whole and complete foods. Cook those with olive or coconut oil. Use real spices and herbs to flavor your food. Problem solved!


+1

The only "food" that contains soy products is processed food from the middle aisles of the grocery store.

Stop buying shit in boxes, bags, packets and wrappers.


Yeah, unless you want meat, eggs, dairy. Those animals all eat soy. Not too much a concern if you are just allergic to the soy protein, but if you're also trying to avoid GMOs, forget it.

Didn't know about soy in tea bags that PP mentioned. How bizarre.

After reading about soy lecithin and leaky gut, I'm trying to avoid it. Good bye favorite chocolate.
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