Why I'm not CIOing

[Anonymous]

Some day people won't be able to "do whatever you want." I hope CIO is illegal soon, so more people can't choose to damage their babies into submission. It is reprehensible. Reading it in a book doesn't make it okay.

The PP got it right when she said this: "CIO is hard - it's emotionally draining. It's not sitting ignoring your child's cries while you paint your toenails. It's excruciating." And all that in a post IN FAVOR OF CIO. Are you nuts? Why do you think it's so excruciating? (For the parent; how ironic.) It's because it is BAD for your baby. The ends do not justify the means -- or haven't you heard that phrase before....

[Anonymous]

I couldn't do CIO because one of my first memories is being the baby on the other side of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some day people won't be able to "do whatever you want." I hope CIO is illegal soon, so more people can't choose to damage their babies into submission. It is reprehensible. Reading it in a book doesn't make it okay.

The PP got it right when she said this: "CIO is hard - it's emotionally draining. It's not sitting ignoring your child's cries while you paint your toenails. It's excruciating." And all that in a post IN FAVOR OF CIO. Are you nuts? Why do you think it's so excruciating? (For the parent; how ironic.) It's because it is BAD for your baby. The ends do not justify the means -- or haven't you heard that phrase before....

you know what else is excrutiating? when your child screams when you leave them at daycare. When they melt down the first day of school. when they're crying uncontrollably in the car seat. just because something is hard on a parent doesn't mean it's wrong. that's the most absurd argument i've ever heard. by that rationale if we all just did what felt best this parenting thing would be a no-brainer. And illegal? Please, PP. I bet you can't tell the difference between a sleep trained adult and a not-sleep trained adult if your life depended on it! There are plenty of parents out there who manage to royally screw their kids up and they co-slept and nursed on demand throughout the night. your a lunatic. good luck getting your kid off to college.

[Anonymous]

So, employing some cockamamie baby torture scheme from a book: natural; parenting your baby as homo sapiens have for millenia: wrong and bad. Check and check. Bowing out now bc anyone who ascribes to the aformentioned logic can't be convinced of squat. Plus, I have to nurse my sweet baby to sleep (actually, toddler!) and then squish his against his daddy, bwahaha!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I couldn't do CIO because one of my first memories is being the baby on the other side of it.

WHAT! You must be kidding, you remember being a baby crying during CIO? Bull seriously bull! Wow the freaking crazies are out tonight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I couldn't do CIO because one of my first memories is being the baby on the other side of it.

WHAT! You must be kidding, you remember being a baby crying during CIO? Bull seriously bull! Wow the freaking crazies are out tonight.

Not kidding, or crazy. Woke from a nightmare. Screamed and screamed because I was terrified and no one ever came.

You must be kidding yourself if you think something like that can't leave a permanent impression.

[Anonymous]

Ohhhh ok I get I get it. OP and pp are insane. Really certifiably insane. You think CIO is bad....insane people should not be raising children. There is no point in commenting on this with you because I would need a lot of alcohol or drugs to not want to pull all my hair out. Goodluck crazy ladies!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ohhhh ok I get I get it. OP and pp are insane. Really certifiably insane. You think CIO is bad....insane people should not be raising children. There is no point in commenting on this with you because I would need a lot of alcohol or drugs to not want to pull all my hair out. Goodluck crazy ladies!

Ohhhh, I get it. You're a complete and total judgementaldouchebag. Good luck raising your kids, jerk!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

OP here. Most of you are so defensive and you didn't even read what that mom wrote. So sad!

As I said before, that's why [b]I didn't do it. I posted this to whoever is thinking about their children's sleep and trying to make a decision. I'm sharing what MY thoughts are. You do whatever you want. Life goes on.

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She said in very few words what I've been trying to say all along. And the poem/prayer(?) in the end OMG! if we were just a little less selfish!
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Bullshit, OP.

You are welcome to have your opinion. I'm a former nanny who's worked with families all along the spectrum: bed-sharing, co-sleeping, sleep-training and CIO, and what works for any family is different. The reason you're getting so many "Fuck off!" responses isn't because refusing to CIO is controversial, it's because you opened a thread about how all sleep-training advise is predicated on four fundamental "lies" (see, I did read the article. Happy?") and then added you own comment that you choose not to CIO because you want to be "less selfish"?

God, how did those oversensitive sleep-trainers interpret that as insulting? Must be their guilty consciences, and not the fact that you're a self-righteous, judgmental bitch.



Here's a thought that might actually be helpful to "whoever is thinking about their children's sleep and trying to make a decision." It is scientifically proven that not getting enough sleep is harmful both temporarily and long-term to growing children. If your kids sleeps best with your breast in her mouth, then that may be what works best for your family. If interacting with others overstimulates your child, and they tend to self-soothe well, then CIO may be what works. YOU have been given your child. Anyone who questions your devotion to your child based on the fact that you aren't doing anything (feeding, sleeping, disciplining) THEIR WAY is more interested in their own ego than your child's best interests, and all of their advice should be discounted. Do what works, if you heard it's the "wrong" thing, but it feels right, then trust your love for and knowledge of your child. They are the important thing.

[Anonymous]

Why not get drunk? It's not like you're going to be doing any parenting tonight!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not get drunk? It's not like you're going to be doing any parenting tonight!

OUCH! Good come back...NOT....you are still crazy!

[Anonymous]

CIO seems like a weird westernized thing that makes it easier for the parents. I believe that it is pretty wrong as well. Sorry, folks I know that's not what you want to hear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some day people won't be able to "do whatever you want." I hope CIO is illegal soon, so more people can't choose to damage their babies into submission. It is reprehensible. Reading it in a book doesn't make it okay.

The PP got it right when she said this: "CIO is hard - it's emotionally draining. It's not sitting ignoring your child's cries while you paint your toenails. It's excruciating." And all that in a post IN FAVOR OF CIO. Are you nuts? Why do you think it's so excruciating? (For the parent; how ironic.) It's because it is BAD for your baby. The ends do not justify the means -- or haven't you heard that phrase before....

you know what else is excrutiating? when your child screams when you leave them at daycare. When they melt down the first day of school. when they're crying uncontrollably in the car seat. just because something is hard on a parent doesn't mean it's wrong. that's the most absurd argument i've ever heard. by that rationale if we all just did what felt best this parenting thing would be a no-brainer. And illegal? Please, PP. I bet you can't tell the difference between a sleep trained adult and a not-sleep trained adult if your life depended on it! There are plenty of parents out there who manage to royally screw their kids up and they co-slept and nursed on demand throughout the night. your a lunatic. good luck getting your kid off to college.

I bet you can, as a matter of fact. Many adults are walking around with attachment disorder, which manifests itself in all kinds of ways I bet you see in adults every day. Attachment disorder IS CIO in a nutshell -- the baby stops crying because it gives up, not because it is "learning" to sleep. Google attachment disorder and see what you find. forty percent of adults in the "general population" have attachment disorder -- and by general population, they mean from normal homes with no apparent trauma, and they have no idea why they have it. FORTY PERCENT of adults. Google it for yourself. It is scary. I hope CIO is illegal very soon.

[Anonymous]

This is a trick post. There is no one this stupid that thinks CIO can be made illegal. Yes thats what Congress and the legislative branch will do.

[Anonymous]

OP here.

We know that to keep up the milk supply we have to have the baby suckling on us, close to our skin and we have to hear each other's breath.

Now, you tell me that letting them CIO to "self sooth" is natural? You're doing your child a favor? What kind of favor?

They need to feel your warmth since they can't regulate their body temperature yet, they need to hear you breath and feel you move so they can regulate their breathing. And you want them to "self sooth" in another room?

Yes, DCUM we've been doing it WRONG! We're selfish and careless! When I decided I wanted to be a mother I thought I knew how hard it would be but I never imagined what a lesson in humility it would turn out to be.

I'm another person today, thanks to my little one. Our bosses, creditors, relatives, friends can wait. I'm not picking up the phone at the first ring. Yes, I'm calling in sick because I cannot drive safely. Yes, I'm skipping your party because my priorities have changed and I'm really proud of it!