Mexico : shelter in place

[Anonymous]

Why do wealthy white Americans keep trying to insist Mexico is totally safe? So many other places to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do wealthy white Americans keep trying to insist Mexico is totally safe? So many other places to go.

It's a shame, but all of Mexico seems pretty sketchy. That's why it's cheap. Even if you aren't caught in violence, you will likely be scammed.

[Anonymous]

I have previously lived in Guadalajara. Loved it. Such a fantastic place and people. I considered it safe, including Puerto Vallarta where I have been on vacation. The cartel stuff kind of ran in the background. Hits were targeted. If you weren't involved then you were left alone. But now we have gotten involved apparently so I am very concerned about those there currently.

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Anonymous wrote:It's Puerto Vallarta, which I do think is known to not be the safest option for travel in Mexico. I think something this extreme though is not common. Before it's been more tourists caught in line of fire by accident or kidnappings.

Really? It was a pretty popular spring break destination when I was in college (east coast) in the early 2000s. Also attended a wedding there once around 2010. It seemed pretty full of UMC American tourists both times.

Is it really that shocking that conditions could have changed from your experience 15-25 years ago?

I grew up in Southern California in the 90s and families would regularly drive over to Tijuana for the day…I certainly wouldn’t recommend doing the same now.

Of course not, places do change all the time, but I hadn't heard that before, that's why I was asking if it had really changed that much, I'd had no idea it was no longer a normal UMC tourist spot. No need to get prickly.

I love Mexico. It’s a beautiful country. This type of thing has been brewing for years. It just happened to puerto Vallarta. I wouldn’t go to Cabo or the Cancun areas either. Theres a reason why Florida is full of $1000 a night hotel rooms and Mexico is cheap. Some people were willing to risk it because of $. I am not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have previously lived in Guadalajara. Loved it. Such a fantastic place and people. I considered it safe, including Puerto Vallarta where I have been on vacation. The cartel stuff kind of ran in the background. Hits were targeted. If you weren't involved then you were left alone. But now we have gotten involved apparently so I am very concerned about those there currently.

Kind of like vacationing in Sursum corda during the Barry crack years.

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Anonymous wrote:It's Puerto Vallarta, which I do think is known to not be the safest option for travel in Mexico. I think something this extreme though is not common. Before it's been more tourists caught in line of fire by accident or kidnappings.

Really? It was a pretty popular spring break destination when I was in college (east coast) in the early 2000s. Also attended a wedding there once around 2010. It seemed pretty full of UMC American tourists both times.

Is it really that shocking that conditions could have changed from your experience 15-25 years ago?

I grew up in Southern California in the 90s and families would regularly drive over to Tijuana for the day…I certainly wouldn’t recommend doing the same now.

Of course not, places do change all the time, but I hadn't heard that before, that's why I was asking if it had really changed that much, I'd had no idea it was no longer a normal UMC tourist spot. No need to get prickly.

I love Mexico. It’s a beautiful country. This type of thing has been brewing for years. It just happened to puerto Vallarta. I wouldn’t go to Cabo or the Cancun areas either. Theres a reason why Florida is full of $1000 a night hotel rooms and Mexico is cheap. Some people were willing to risk it because of $. I am not.

I know people from Mexico who won’t travel to Mexico due to it being unsafe. I know someone else whose husband was drugged (they think by the bartender) at an upscale hotel in the Cancun area.

I haven’t been to Mexico in 20 years. It’s not worth going on vacation to relax only to have your guard up the whole time.

[Anonymous]

The shelter in place was extended to Quintana Roo (Cancun, etc.)

Where are all the rah-rah Cancun supporters now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The shelter in place was extended to Quintana Roo (Cancun, etc.)

Where are all the rah-rah Cancun supporters now?

Where are you seeing that? The state dept is still showing level 2 (exercise increased caution):

https://travelmaps.state.gov/TSGMap/

[Anonymous]

There have been travel advisories for Mexico for a long time now. Jalisco is a "reconsider travel" state so it's not like people are not aware it's risky. Yucatan and Campeche are the only states without warnings.

[Anonymous]

I am in Cancun right now. It is fine in the hotel zone.

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Anonymous wrote:It's Puerto Vallarta, which I do think is known to not be the safest option for travel in Mexico. I think something this extreme though is not common. Before it's been more tourists caught in line of fire by accident or kidnappings.

Really? It was a pretty popular spring break destination when I was in college (east coast) in the early 2000s. Also attended a wedding there once around 2010. It seemed pretty full of UMC American tourists both times.

Is it really that shocking that conditions could have changed from your experience 15-25 years ago?

I grew up in Southern California in the 90s and families would regularly drive over to Tijuana for the day…I certainly wouldn’t recommend doing the same now.

Of course not, places do change all the time, but I hadn't heard that before, that's why I was asking if it had really changed that much, I'd had no idea it was no longer a normal UMC tourist spot. No need to get prickly.

I love Mexico. It’s a beautiful country. This type of thing has been brewing for years. It just happened to puerto Vallarta. I wouldn’t go to Cabo or the Cancun areas either. Theres a reason why Florida is full of $1000 a night hotel rooms and Mexico is cheap. Some people were willing to risk it because of $. I am not.

I know people from Mexico who won’t travel to Mexico due to it being unsafe. I know someone else whose husband was drugged (they think by the bartender) at an upscale hotel in the Cancun area.

I haven’t been to Mexico in 20 years. It’s not worth going on vacation to relax only to have your guard up the whole time.

This. I’m Mexican American. Mexico is awesome. But the cartels have too much influence and it’s been growing. Enough is enough.

We don’t visit family in Mexico. I have friends who do though. They say it’s been getting increasingly dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:It's Puerto Vallarta, which I do think is known to not be the safest option for travel in Mexico. I think something this extreme though is not common. Before it's been more tourists caught in line of fire by accident or kidnappings.

Really? It was a pretty popular spring break destination when I was in college (east coast) in the early 2000s. Also attended a wedding there once around 2010. It seemed pretty full of UMC American tourists both times.

Is it really that shocking that conditions could have changed from your experience 15-25 years ago?

I grew up in Southern California in the 90s and families would regularly drive over to Tijuana for the day…I certainly wouldn’t recommend doing the same now.

Of course not, places do change all the time, but I hadn't heard that before, that's why I was asking if it had really changed that much, I'd had no idea it was no longer a normal UMC tourist spot. No need to get prickly.

My impression is that Puerto Vallarta is still pretty touristy and safe, although the area between Puerto Vallarta and Mexico City has some cartel-heavy areas. I'm really surprised that Puerto Vallarta is covered by a shelter-in-place order. There's a nice Westin, a Dreams, a Marriot, etc. It's not a sketchy area, so a shelter in place is a scary.

Puerta Vallarta is on fire, that’s why the warning. We have family there. It’s a touristy area with lots of US expats.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming this is related to the shit down of airspace over El Paso and the cartel war that is coming.

The brief shut down in El Paso was just incompetence and bad communication.

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It was actually a lie by the administration to cover their incompetence. Had nothing to do with the cartels

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The shelter in place was extended to Quintana Roo (Cancun, etc.)

Where are all the rah-rah Cancun supporters now?

Where are you seeing that? The state dept is still showing level 2 (exercise increased caution):

https://travelmaps.state.gov/TSGMap/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-tourists-urged-shelter-place-122809025.html

“ The warning includes popular resort cities like Puerto Vallarta, Cancun, Playa del Carmen and Tulum.”

Also Cancun airport is a hot mess right now.

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/cancun-mexico-airport-status-hundreds-of-tourists-stranded-as-violence-grips-mexico-is-cancun-safe-right-now-us-travel-advisory-mexico-article-153671828

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am in Cancun right now. It is fine in the hotel zone.

Good luck with your flight home. Widespread cancellations.