Hey, Crazy H1-B Visa Guy. Trump loves H1-Bs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg isn’t this a switch? Guess Amazon and big tech are getting their moneys worth.

Yep - Get money out of politics.

[Anonymous]

They are changing the H1B process so that higher salaried people get priority.

[Anonymous]

Trump is screwing over American STEM workers.

Not one single H1-B should be issued until American STEM talent have jobs. I see a lot of people complaining about being screwed over in STEM hiring, especially tech because they are being undercut by H1-B and offshoring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But as to your point, we KNOW republicans are evil and want to screw workers. no debate. the tragedy is that Democrats who used to be the party of labor, have abandoned US workers. They claim they support them but their actions speak for themselves. what would cause a country to vote for an idiot like Trump? Why are Democrats unable to address why they lost to this psychopath?

anyone that has worked in software has seen how capitalists have abandoned our children to replace them with cheaper disposable temporary guest! workers. How could that have happened? because it helps the investor class.

and yeh, Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024. Largely due to immigration issues.

By June 2024, “immigration” was the second most important issue among the nearly 1,600 U.S. adults polled by The Economist/YouGov that month, trailing only “inflation/prices”. Given that Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6 percentage points (49.9 percent for the Trump/Vance ticket compared to 48.3 percent for Harris/Walz), the fact that Trump did so well with swing voters was key to his victory.

Among total swing voters who ultimately chose Trump, immigration was a key issue, with 77 percent of them believing that it was “extremely” or “very accurate” to say Democrats are “not tough enough on addressing the border crisis” and 73 percent feeling the same way about Democrats “support[ing] immigrants more than American citizens”.

Moreover, 73 percent of Trump-supporting swing voters thought it was either extremely or very accurate to state that Democrats “want to take money from hard-working Americans and give it to immigrants”, 72 percent of them believed it is fair to think Democrats “don’t care about securing the border”, and 69 percent concurred with the statement that Democrats “have extreme ideas about immigration”.

And current Democrats hate the deplorables, i.e. the US working class. those RACISTS, how dare they want to support their families. maybe if Democrats focused on policies that US voters want, they would get re-elected. One of those is to help our own children first. Help our own children get good entry level jobs with health care.

when did it become moral to allow American companies to replace our own children with cheap temporary labor?

and if you really believe capitalists when they say they need workers take a look at one of many lists of layoffs. clearly you don't agree with Trump. you would have to be living in a cave to not see what is happening.

-> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/03/job-market-new-grads-unemployment.html
-> https://www.businessinsider.com/recent-company-layoffs-laying-off-workers-2025#automattic-tumblrs-parent-cuts-16-of-staff-6

If Democrats would start focusing on US workers, stop the illegal immigration, pause the legal immigration of cheap workers, i.e. repeal H1B and OPT and L1, they would never lose. and we could start working to reverse the damage. 3 Supreme Court picks lost , how many this time?

I have worked close to tech at large companies for 10 years now. Pretty much every major company now is highly technology focused and spends millions and millions on tech. Most people have no clue just how many pieces of tech there are that go into the things they take for granted every day. Banking, media, retail, etc.

There are some American born people here and there in these departments, but a large % is foreign born. It is not only the off shore customer support work that people think of, but the on site employees who are H1b as well as dozens and dozens of back end tech SaaS providers that may be US based but use their own offshore teams too.

Companies do not care that they aren’t giving jobs to Americans. They are always looking for the most cost effective way to run things.

How did we send people into space without H1-B’s?

Many of those scientists are immigrants. Take a look at the nobel prize winners in the US. Many are foreign born, 30% to 40%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But as to your point, we KNOW republicans are evil and want to screw workers. no debate. the tragedy is that Democrats who used to be the party of labor, have abandoned US workers. They claim they support them but their actions speak for themselves. what would cause a country to vote for an idiot like Trump? Why are Democrats unable to address why they lost to this psychopath?

anyone that has worked in software has seen how capitalists have abandoned our children to replace them with cheaper disposable temporary guest! workers. How could that have happened? because it helps the investor class.

and yeh, Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024. Largely due to immigration issues.

By June 2024, “immigration” was the second most important issue among the nearly 1,600 U.S. adults polled by The Economist/YouGov that month, trailing only “inflation/prices”. Given that Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6 percentage points (49.9 percent for the Trump/Vance ticket compared to 48.3 percent for Harris/Walz), the fact that Trump did so well with swing voters was key to his victory.

Among total swing voters who ultimately chose Trump, immigration was a key issue, with 77 percent of them believing that it was “extremely” or “very accurate” to say Democrats are “not tough enough on addressing the border crisis” and 73 percent feeling the same way about Democrats “support[ing] immigrants more than American citizens”.

Moreover, 73 percent of Trump-supporting swing voters thought it was either extremely or very accurate to state that Democrats “want to take money from hard-working Americans and give it to immigrants”, 72 percent of them believed it is fair to think Democrats “don’t care about securing the border”, and 69 percent concurred with the statement that Democrats “have extreme ideas about immigration”.

And current Democrats hate the deplorables, i.e. the US working class. those RACISTS, how dare they want to support their families. maybe if Democrats focused on policies that US voters want, they would get re-elected. One of those is to help our own children first. Help our own children get good entry level jobs with health care.

when did it become moral to allow American companies to replace our own children with cheap temporary labor?

and if you really believe capitalists when they say they need workers take a look at one of many lists of layoffs. clearly you don't agree with Trump. you would have to be living in a cave to not see what is happening.

-> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/03/job-market-new-grads-unemployment.html
-> https://www.businessinsider.com/recent-company-layoffs-laying-off-workers-2025#automattic-tumblrs-parent-cuts-16-of-staff-6

If Democrats would start focusing on US workers, stop the illegal immigration, pause the legal immigration of cheap workers, i.e. repeal H1B and OPT and L1, they would never lose. and we could start working to reverse the damage. 3 Supreme Court picks lost , how many this time?

I have worked close to tech at large companies for 10 years now. Pretty much every major company now is highly technology focused and spends millions and millions on tech. Most people have no clue just how many pieces of tech there are that go into the things they take for granted every day. Banking, media, retail, etc.

There are some American born people here and there in these departments, but a large % is foreign born. It is not only the off shore customer support work that people think of, but the on site employees who are H1b as well as dozens and dozens of back end tech SaaS providers that may be US based but use their own offshore teams too.

Companies do not care that they aren’t giving jobs to Americans. They are always looking for the most cost effective way to run things.

How did we send people into space without H1-B’s?

A sizable portion of the US space program in the 1950s and 60s was composed of former German Nazis.

The Apollo moon landings are often portrayed as an American achievement, but the United States had help: More than 1,500 German scientists and engineers were brought to the United States in the immediate aftermath of World War II, through a secret program known as Operation Paperclip. Some were members of the Nazi Party; some were also members of the SS—the Schutzstaffel, the party’s black-uniformed political enforcers.

Like Wernher von Braun.

https://slate.com/technology/2023/08/nasa-nazi-history-von-braun.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But as to your point, we KNOW republicans are evil and want to screw workers. no debate. the tragedy is that Democrats who used to be the party of labor, have abandoned US workers. They claim they support them but their actions speak for themselves. what would cause a country to vote for an idiot like Trump? Why are Democrats unable to address why they lost to this psychopath?

anyone that has worked in software has seen how capitalists have abandoned our children to replace them with cheaper disposable temporary guest! workers. How could that have happened? because it helps the investor class.

and yeh, Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024. Largely due to immigration issues.

By June 2024, “immigration” was the second most important issue among the nearly 1,600 U.S. adults polled by The Economist/YouGov that month, trailing only “inflation/prices”. Given that Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6 percentage points (49.9 percent for the Trump/Vance ticket compared to 48.3 percent for Harris/Walz), the fact that Trump did so well with swing voters was key to his victory.

Among total swing voters who ultimately chose Trump, immigration was a key issue, with 77 percent of them believing that it was “extremely” or “very accurate” to say Democrats are “not tough enough on addressing the border crisis” and 73 percent feeling the same way about Democrats “support[ing] immigrants more than American citizens”.

Moreover, 73 percent of Trump-supporting swing voters thought it was either extremely or very accurate to state that Democrats “want to take money from hard-working Americans and give it to immigrants”, 72 percent of them believed it is fair to think Democrats “don’t care about securing the border”, and 69 percent concurred with the statement that Democrats “have extreme ideas about immigration”.

And current Democrats hate the deplorables, i.e. the US working class. those RACISTS, how dare they want to support their families. maybe if Democrats focused on policies that US voters want, they would get re-elected. One of those is to help our own children first. Help our own children get good entry level jobs with health care.

when did it become moral to allow American companies to replace our own children with cheap temporary labor?

and if you really believe capitalists when they say they need workers take a look at one of many lists of layoffs. clearly you don't agree with Trump. you would have to be living in a cave to not see what is happening.

-> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/03/job-market-new-grads-unemployment.html
-> https://www.businessinsider.com/recent-company-layoffs-laying-off-workers-2025#automattic-tumblrs-parent-cuts-16-of-staff-6

If Democrats would start focusing on US workers, stop the illegal immigration, pause the legal immigration of cheap workers, i.e. repeal H1B and OPT and L1, they would never lose. and we could start working to reverse the damage. 3 Supreme Court picks lost , how many this time?

I have worked close to tech at large companies for 10 years now. Pretty much every major company now is highly technology focused and spends millions and millions on tech. Most people have no clue just how many pieces of tech there are that go into the things they take for granted every day. Banking, media, retail, etc.

There are some American born people here and there in these departments, but a large % is foreign born. It is not only the off shore customer support work that people think of, but the on site employees who are H1b as well as dozens and dozens of back end tech SaaS providers that may be US based but use their own offshore teams too.

Companies do not care that they aren’t giving jobs to Americans. They are always looking for the most cost effective way to run things.

+1 For a minute there, I thought I wrote this post.

I've been posting this numerous times.. I've also worked with tech companies since 1998. They don't care about the workers; they care about profits. I have seen jobs go offshore, and not just tech jobs but operations.

Don't blame the foreign workers. They are just trying to work. Blame the companies that are putting profits over Americans. But, then, that's capitalism for you.

And Trump and MAGA love capitalism, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But as to your point, we KNOW republicans are evil and want to screw workers. no debate. the tragedy is that Democrats who used to be the party of labor, have abandoned US workers. They claim they support them but their actions speak for themselves. what would cause a country to vote for an idiot like Trump? Why are Democrats unable to address why they lost to this psychopath?

anyone that has worked in software has seen how capitalists have abandoned our children to replace them with cheaper disposable temporary guest! workers. How could that have happened? because it helps the investor class.

and yeh, Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024. Largely due to immigration issues.

By June 2024, “immigration” was the second most important issue among the nearly 1,600 U.S. adults polled by The Economist/YouGov that month, trailing only “inflation/prices”. Given that Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6 percentage points (49.9 percent for the Trump/Vance ticket compared to 48.3 percent for Harris/Walz), the fact that Trump did so well with swing voters was key to his victory.

Among total swing voters who ultimately chose Trump, immigration was a key issue, with 77 percent of them believing that it was “extremely” or “very accurate” to say Democrats are “not tough enough on addressing the border crisis” and 73 percent feeling the same way about Democrats “support[ing] immigrants more than American citizens”.

Moreover, 73 percent of Trump-supporting swing voters thought it was either extremely or very accurate to state that Democrats “want to take money from hard-working Americans and give it to immigrants”, 72 percent of them believed it is fair to think Democrats “don’t care about securing the border”, and 69 percent concurred with the statement that Democrats “have extreme ideas about immigration”.

And current Democrats hate the deplorables, i.e. the US working class. those RACISTS, how dare they want to support their families. maybe if Democrats focused on policies that US voters want, they would get re-elected. One of those is to help our own children first. Help our own children get good entry level jobs with health care.

when did it become moral to allow American companies to replace our own children with cheap temporary labor?

and if you really believe capitalists when they say they need workers take a look at one of many lists of layoffs. clearly you don't agree with Trump. you would have to be living in a cave to not see what is happening.

-> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/03/job-market-new-grads-unemployment.html
-> https://www.businessinsider.com/recent-company-layoffs-laying-off-workers-2025#automattic-tumblrs-parent-cuts-16-of-staff-6

If Democrats would start focusing on US workers, stop the illegal immigration, pause the legal immigration of cheap workers, i.e. repeal H1B and OPT and L1, they would never lose. and we could start working to reverse the damage. 3 Supreme Court picks lost , how many this time?

I have worked close to tech at large companies for 10 years now. Pretty much every major company now is highly technology focused and spends millions and millions on tech. Most people have no clue just how many pieces of tech there are that go into the things they take for granted every day. Banking, media, retail, etc.

There are some American born people here and there in these departments, but a large % is foreign born. It is not only the off shore customer support work that people think of, but the on site employees who are H1b as well as dozens and dozens of back end tech SaaS providers that may be US based but use their own offshore teams too.

Companies do not care that they aren’t giving jobs to Americans. They are always looking for the most cost effective way to run things.

+1 For a minute there, I thought I wrote this post.

I've been posting this numerous times.. I've also worked with tech companies since 1998. They don't care about the workers; they care about profits. I have seen jobs go offshore, and not just tech jobs but operations.

Don't blame the foreign workers. They are just trying to work. Blame the companies that are putting profits over Americans. But, then, that's capitalism for you.

And Trump and MAGA love capitalism, right?

Uh huh huh is your post supposed to be insightful or something. I just don't understand the purpose of such a post. Like am I supposed to read that and be like, "Well, I see what you're saying bring in as many H-1b as you want for cheap."

First things first. A) H-1b is not a capitalist concept. It is a highly regulated government function, you can think of it like a service that our government provides to businesses. It has nothing to do with free markets or anyother captialist concept. B) If corporations could just offshore and get chep labor, they't have already gone and done, why aren't you doing it faster?

Yes, corporations are great at putting forth all kinds of inane ideas begging for just another immigrant, but at the end of the day. They know what they want, we know what they want. We have no reason to want to give it to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But as to your point, we KNOW republicans are evil and want to screw workers. no debate. the tragedy is that Democrats who used to be the party of labor, have abandoned US workers. They claim they support them but their actions speak for themselves. what would cause a country to vote for an idiot like Trump? Why are Democrats unable to address why they lost to this psychopath?

anyone that has worked in software has seen how capitalists have abandoned our children to replace them with cheaper disposable temporary guest! workers. How could that have happened? because it helps the investor class.

and yeh, Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024. Largely due to immigration issues.

By June 2024, “immigration” was the second most important issue among the nearly 1,600 U.S. adults polled by The Economist/YouGov that month, trailing only “inflation/prices”. Given that Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6 percentage points (49.9 percent for the Trump/Vance ticket compared to 48.3 percent for Harris/Walz), the fact that Trump did so well with swing voters was key to his victory.

Among total swing voters who ultimately chose Trump, immigration was a key issue, with 77 percent of them believing that it was “extremely” or “very accurate” to say Democrats are “not tough enough on addressing the border crisis” and 73 percent feeling the same way about Democrats “support[ing] immigrants more than American citizens”.

Moreover, 73 percent of Trump-supporting swing voters thought it was either extremely or very accurate to state that Democrats “want to take money from hard-working Americans and give it to immigrants”, 72 percent of them believed it is fair to think Democrats “don’t care about securing the border”, and 69 percent concurred with the statement that Democrats “have extreme ideas about immigration”.

And current Democrats hate the deplorables, i.e. the US working class. those RACISTS, how dare they want to support their families. maybe if Democrats focused on policies that US voters want, they would get re-elected. One of those is to help our own children first. Help our own children get good entry level jobs with health care.

when did it become moral to allow American companies to replace our own children with cheap temporary labor?

and if you really believe capitalists when they say they need workers take a look at one of many lists of layoffs. clearly you don't agree with Trump. you would have to be living in a cave to not see what is happening.

-> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/03/job-market-new-grads-unemployment.html
-> https://www.businessinsider.com/recent-company-layoffs-laying-off-workers-2025#automattic-tumblrs-parent-cuts-16-of-staff-6

If Democrats would start focusing on US workers, stop the illegal immigration, pause the legal immigration of cheap workers, i.e. repeal H1B and OPT and L1, they would never lose. and we could start working to reverse the damage. 3 Supreme Court picks lost , how many this time?

I have worked close to tech at large companies for 10 years now. Pretty much every major company now is highly technology focused and spends millions and millions on tech. Most people have no clue just how many pieces of tech there are that go into the things they take for granted every day. Banking, media, retail, etc.

There are some American born people here and there in these departments, but a large % is foreign born. It is not only the off shore customer support work that people think of, but the on site employees who are H1b as well as dozens and dozens of back end tech SaaS providers that may be US based but use their own offshore teams too.

Companies do not care that they aren’t giving jobs to Americans. They are always looking for the most cost effective way to run things.

+1 For a minute there, I thought I wrote this post.

I've been posting this numerous times.. I've also worked with tech companies since 1998. They don't care about the workers; they care about profits. I have seen jobs go offshore, and not just tech jobs but operations.

Don't blame the foreign workers. They are just trying to work. Blame the companies that are putting profits over Americans. But, then, that's capitalism for you.

And Trump and MAGA love capitalism, right?

Uh huh huh is your post supposed to be insightful or something. I just don't understand the purpose of such a post. Like am I supposed to read that and be like, "Well, I see what you're saying bring in as many H-1b as you want for cheap."

First things first. A) H-1b is not a capitalist concept. It is a highly regulated government function, you can think of it like a service that our government provides to businesses. It has nothing to do with free markets or anyother captialist concept. B) If corporations could just offshore and get chep labor, they't have already gone and done, why aren't you doing it faster?

Yes, corporations are great at putting forth all kinds of inane ideas begging for just another immigrant, but at the end of the day. They know what they want, we know what they want. We have no reason to want to give it to them.

The point of the post is that greedy corporate execs give money to politicians to keep these visas alive. Duh.

Hiring whomever you want to is capitalism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But as to your point, we KNOW republicans are evil and want to screw workers. no debate. the tragedy is that Democrats who used to be the party of labor, have abandoned US workers. They claim they support them but their actions speak for themselves. what would cause a country to vote for an idiot like Trump? Why are Democrats unable to address why they lost to this psychopath?

anyone that has worked in software has seen how capitalists have abandoned our children to replace them with cheaper disposable temporary guest! workers. How could that have happened? because it helps the investor class.

and yeh, Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024. Largely due to immigration issues.

By June 2024, “immigration” was the second most important issue among the nearly 1,600 U.S. adults polled by The Economist/YouGov that month, trailing only “inflation/prices”. Given that Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6 percentage points (49.9 percent for the Trump/Vance ticket compared to 48.3 percent for Harris/Walz), the fact that Trump did so well with swing voters was key to his victory.

Among total swing voters who ultimately chose Trump, immigration was a key issue, with 77 percent of them believing that it was “extremely” or “very accurate” to say Democrats are “not tough enough on addressing the border crisis” and 73 percent feeling the same way about Democrats “support[ing] immigrants more than American citizens”.

Moreover, 73 percent of Trump-supporting swing voters thought it was either extremely or very accurate to state that Democrats “want to take money from hard-working Americans and give it to immigrants”, 72 percent of them believed it is fair to think Democrats “don’t care about securing the border”, and 69 percent concurred with the statement that Democrats “have extreme ideas about immigration”.

And current Democrats hate the deplorables, i.e. the US working class. those RACISTS, how dare they want to support their families. maybe if Democrats focused on policies that US voters want, they would get re-elected. One of those is to help our own children first. Help our own children get good entry level jobs with health care.

when did it become moral to allow American companies to replace our own children with cheap temporary labor?

and if you really believe capitalists when they say they need workers take a look at one of many lists of layoffs. clearly you don't agree with Trump. you would have to be living in a cave to not see what is happening.

-> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/03/job-market-new-grads-unemployment.html
-> https://www.businessinsider.com/recent-company-layoffs-laying-off-workers-2025#automattic-tumblrs-parent-cuts-16-of-staff-6

If Democrats would start focusing on US workers, stop the illegal immigration, pause the legal immigration of cheap workers, i.e. repeal H1B and OPT and L1, they would never lose. and we could start working to reverse the damage. 3 Supreme Court picks lost , how many this time?

I have worked close to tech at large companies for 10 years now. Pretty much every major company now is highly technology focused and spends millions and millions on tech. Most people have no clue just how many pieces of tech there are that go into the things they take for granted every day. Banking, media, retail, etc.

There are some American born people here and there in these departments, but a large % is foreign born. It is not only the off shore customer support work that people think of, but the on site employees who are H1b as well as dozens and dozens of back end tech SaaS providers that may be US based but use their own offshore teams too.

Companies do not care that they aren’t giving jobs to Americans. They are always looking for the most cost effective way to run things.

+1 For a minute there, I thought I wrote this post.

I've been posting this numerous times.. I've also worked with tech companies since 1998. They don't care about the workers; they care about profits. I have seen jobs go offshore, and not just tech jobs but operations.

Don't blame the foreign workers. They are just trying to work. Blame the companies that are putting profits over Americans. But, then, that's capitalism for you.

And Trump and MAGA love capitalism, right?

Uh huh huh is your post supposed to be insightful or something. I just don't understand the purpose of such a post. Like am I supposed to read that and be like, "Well, I see what you're saying bring in as many H-1b as you want for cheap."

First things first. A) H-1b is not a capitalist concept. It is a highly regulated government function, you can think of it like a service that our government provides to businesses. It has nothing to do with free markets or anyother captialist concept. B) If corporations could just offshore and get chep labor, they't have already gone and done, why aren't you doing it faster?

Yes, corporations are great at putting forth all kinds of inane ideas begging for just another immigrant, but at the end of the day. They know what they want, we know what they want. We have no reason to want to give it to them.

The point of the post is that greedy corporate execs give money to politicians to keep these visas alive. Duh.

Hiring whomever you want to is capitalism.

They are free to hire whomever they want to, they just either have to go over there or bring them here. Neither of which is a capitalist function.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But as to your point, we KNOW republicans are evil and want to screw workers. no debate. the tragedy is that Democrats who used to be the party of labor, have abandoned US workers. They claim they support them but their actions speak for themselves. what would cause a country to vote for an idiot like Trump? Why are Democrats unable to address why they lost to this psychopath?

anyone that has worked in software has seen how capitalists have abandoned our children to replace them with cheaper disposable temporary guest! workers. How could that have happened? because it helps the investor class.

and yeh, Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024. Largely due to immigration issues.

By June 2024, “immigration” was the second most important issue among the nearly 1,600 U.S. adults polled by The Economist/YouGov that month, trailing only “inflation/prices”. Given that Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6 percentage points (49.9 percent for the Trump/Vance ticket compared to 48.3 percent for Harris/Walz), the fact that Trump did so well with swing voters was key to his victory.

Among total swing voters who ultimately chose Trump, immigration was a key issue, with 77 percent of them believing that it was “extremely” or “very accurate” to say Democrats are “not tough enough on addressing the border crisis” and 73 percent feeling the same way about Democrats “support[ing] immigrants more than American citizens”.

Moreover, 73 percent of Trump-supporting swing voters thought it was either extremely or very accurate to state that Democrats “want to take money from hard-working Americans and give it to immigrants”, 72 percent of them believed it is fair to think Democrats “don’t care about securing the border”, and 69 percent concurred with the statement that Democrats “have extreme ideas about immigration”.

And current Democrats hate the deplorables, i.e. the US working class. those RACISTS, how dare they want to support their families. maybe if Democrats focused on policies that US voters want, they would get re-elected. One of those is to help our own children first. Help our own children get good entry level jobs with health care.

when did it become moral to allow American companies to replace our own children with cheap temporary labor?

and if you really believe capitalists when they say they need workers take a look at one of many lists of layoffs. clearly you don't agree with Trump. you would have to be living in a cave to not see what is happening.

-> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/03/job-market-new-grads-unemployment.html
-> https://www.businessinsider.com/recent-company-layoffs-laying-off-workers-2025#automattic-tumblrs-parent-cuts-16-of-staff-6

If Democrats would start focusing on US workers, stop the illegal immigration, pause the legal immigration of cheap workers, i.e. repeal H1B and OPT and L1, they would never lose. and we could start working to reverse the damage. 3 Supreme Court picks lost , how many this time?

I have worked close to tech at large companies for 10 years now. Pretty much every major company now is highly technology focused and spends millions and millions on tech. Most people have no clue just how many pieces of tech there are that go into the things they take for granted every day. Banking, media, retail, etc.

There are some American born people here and there in these departments, but a large % is foreign born. It is not only the off shore customer support work that people think of, but the on site employees who are H1b as well as dozens and dozens of back end tech SaaS providers that may be US based but use their own offshore teams too.

Companies do not care that they aren’t giving jobs to Americans. They are always looking for the most cost effective way to run things.

+1 For a minute there, I thought I wrote this post.

I've been posting this numerous times.. I've also worked with tech companies since 1998. They don't care about the workers; they care about profits. I have seen jobs go offshore, and not just tech jobs but operations.

Don't blame the foreign workers. They are just trying to work. Blame the companies that are putting profits over Americans. But, then, that's capitalism for you.

And Trump and MAGA love capitalism, right?

Uh huh huh is your post supposed to be insightful or something. I just don't understand the purpose of such a post. Like am I supposed to read that and be like, "Well, I see what you're saying bring in as many H-1b as you want for cheap."

First things first. A) H-1b is not a capitalist concept. It is a highly regulated government function, you can think of it like a service that our government provides to businesses. It has nothing to do with free markets or anyother captialist concept. B) If corporations could just offshore and get chep labor, they't have already gone and done, why aren't you doing it faster?

Yes, corporations are great at putting forth all kinds of inane ideas begging for just another immigrant, but at the end of the day. They know what they want, we know what they want. We have no reason to want to give it to them.

The point of the post is that greedy corporate execs give money to politicians to keep these visas alive. Duh.

Hiring whomever you want to is capitalism.

They are free to hire whomever they want to, they just either have to go over there or bring them here. Neither of which is a capitalist function.

Let me clarify. It's like stealing is there any reason they couldn't just steal a car sell it make money. If that's your bar for capitalism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But as to your point, we KNOW republicans are evil and want to screw workers. no debate. the tragedy is that Democrats who used to be the party of labor, have abandoned US workers. They claim they support them but their actions speak for themselves. what would cause a country to vote for an idiot like Trump? Why are Democrats unable to address why they lost to this psychopath?

anyone that has worked in software has seen how capitalists have abandoned our children to replace them with cheaper disposable temporary guest! workers. How could that have happened? because it helps the investor class.

and yeh, Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024. Largely due to immigration issues.

By June 2024, “immigration” was the second most important issue among the nearly 1,600 U.S. adults polled by The Economist/YouGov that month, trailing only “inflation/prices”. Given that Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6 percentage points (49.9 percent for the Trump/Vance ticket compared to 48.3 percent for Harris/Walz), the fact that Trump did so well with swing voters was key to his victory.

Among total swing voters who ultimately chose Trump, immigration was a key issue, with 77 percent of them believing that it was “extremely” or “very accurate” to say Democrats are “not tough enough on addressing the border crisis” and 73 percent feeling the same way about Democrats “support[ing] immigrants more than American citizens”.

Moreover, 73 percent of Trump-supporting swing voters thought it was either extremely or very accurate to state that Democrats “want to take money from hard-working Americans and give it to immigrants”, 72 percent of them believed it is fair to think Democrats “don’t care about securing the border”, and 69 percent concurred with the statement that Democrats “have extreme ideas about immigration”.

And current Democrats hate the deplorables, i.e. the US working class. those RACISTS, how dare they want to support their families. maybe if Democrats focused on policies that US voters want, they would get re-elected. One of those is to help our own children first. Help our own children get good entry level jobs with health care.

when did it become moral to allow American companies to replace our own children with cheap temporary labor?

and if you really believe capitalists when they say they need workers take a look at one of many lists of layoffs. clearly you don't agree with Trump. you would have to be living in a cave to not see what is happening.

-> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/03/job-market-new-grads-unemployment.html
-> https://www.businessinsider.com/recent-company-layoffs-laying-off-workers-2025#automattic-tumblrs-parent-cuts-16-of-staff-6

If Democrats would start focusing on US workers, stop the illegal immigration, pause the legal immigration of cheap workers, i.e. repeal H1B and OPT and L1, they would never lose. and we could start working to reverse the damage. 3 Supreme Court picks lost , how many this time?

I have worked close to tech at large companies for 10 years now. Pretty much every major company now is highly technology focused and spends millions and millions on tech. Most people have no clue just how many pieces of tech there are that go into the things they take for granted every day. Banking, media, retail, etc.

There are some American born people here and there in these departments, but a large % is foreign born. It is not only the off shore customer support work that people think of, but the on site employees who are H1b as well as dozens and dozens of back end tech SaaS providers that may be US based but use their own offshore teams too.

Companies do not care that they aren’t giving jobs to Americans. They are always looking for the most cost effective way to run things.

+1 For a minute there, I thought I wrote this post.

I've been posting this numerous times.. I've also worked with tech companies since 1998. They don't care about the workers; they care about profits. I have seen jobs go offshore, and not just tech jobs but operations.

Don't blame the foreign workers. They are just trying to work. Blame the companies that are putting profits over Americans. But, then, that's capitalism for you.

And Trump and MAGA love capitalism, right?

Uh huh huh is your post supposed to be insightful or something. I just don't understand the purpose of such a post. Like am I supposed to read that and be like, "Well, I see what you're saying bring in as many H-1b as you want for cheap."

First things first. A) H-1b is not a capitalist concept. It is a highly regulated government function, you can think of it like a service that our government provides to businesses. It has nothing to do with free markets or anyother captialist concept. B) If corporations could just offshore and get chep labor, they't have already gone and done, why aren't you doing it faster?

Yes, corporations are great at putting forth all kinds of inane ideas begging for just another immigrant, but at the end of the day. They know what they want, we know what they want. We have no reason to want to give it to them.

The point of the post is that greedy corporate execs give money to politicians to keep these visas alive. Duh.

Hiring whomever you want to is capitalism.

They are free to hire whomever they want to, they just either have to go over there or bring them here. Neither of which is a capitalist function.

Let me clarify. It's like stealing is there any reason they couldn't just steal a car sell it make money. If that's your bar for capitalism.

But capitalism is about profit, and that's what those politicians bought by corporations support.

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Anonymous wrote:But as to your point, we KNOW republicans are evil and want to screw workers. no debate. the tragedy is that Democrats who used to be the party of labor, have abandoned US workers. They claim they support them but their actions speak for themselves. what would cause a country to vote for an idiot like Trump? Why are Democrats unable to address why they lost to this psychopath?

anyone that has worked in software has seen how capitalists have abandoned our children to replace them with cheaper disposable temporary guest! workers. How could that have happened? because it helps the investor class.

and yeh, Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024. Largely due to immigration issues.

By June 2024, “immigration” was the second most important issue among the nearly 1,600 U.S. adults polled by The Economist/YouGov that month, trailing only “inflation/prices”. Given that Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6 percentage points (49.9 percent for the Trump/Vance ticket compared to 48.3 percent for Harris/Walz), the fact that Trump did so well with swing voters was key to his victory.

Among total swing voters who ultimately chose Trump, immigration was a key issue, with 77 percent of them believing that it was “extremely” or “very accurate” to say Democrats are “not tough enough on addressing the border crisis” and 73 percent feeling the same way about Democrats “support[ing] immigrants more than American citizens”.

Moreover, 73 percent of Trump-supporting swing voters thought it was either extremely or very accurate to state that Democrats “want to take money from hard-working Americans and give it to immigrants”, 72 percent of them believed it is fair to think Democrats “don’t care about securing the border”, and 69 percent concurred with the statement that Democrats “have extreme ideas about immigration”.

And current Democrats hate the deplorables, i.e. the US working class. those RACISTS, how dare they want to support their families. maybe if Democrats focused on policies that US voters want, they would get re-elected. One of those is to help our own children first. Help our own children get good entry level jobs with health care.

when did it become moral to allow American companies to replace our own children with cheap temporary labor?

and if you really believe capitalists when they say they need workers take a look at one of many lists of layoffs. clearly you don't agree with Trump. you would have to be living in a cave to not see what is happening.

-> https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/03/job-market-new-grads-unemployment.html
-> https://www.businessinsider.com/recent-company-layoffs-laying-off-workers-2025#automattic-tumblrs-parent-cuts-16-of-staff-6

If Democrats would start focusing on US workers, stop the illegal immigration, pause the legal immigration of cheap workers, i.e. repeal H1B and OPT and L1, they would never lose. and we could start working to reverse the damage. 3 Supreme Court picks lost , how many this time?

I have worked close to tech at large companies for 10 years now. Pretty much every major company now is highly technology focused and spends millions and millions on tech. Most people have no clue just how many pieces of tech there are that go into the things they take for granted every day. Banking, media, retail, etc.

There are some American born people here and there in these departments, but a large % is foreign born. It is not only the off shore customer support work that people think of, but the on site employees who are H1b as well as dozens and dozens of back end tech SaaS providers that may be US based but use their own offshore teams too.

Companies do not care that they aren’t giving jobs to Americans. They are always looking for the most cost effective way to run things.

+1 For a minute there, I thought I wrote this post.

I've been posting this numerous times.. I've also worked with tech companies since 1998. They don't care about the workers; they care about profits. I have seen jobs go offshore, and not just tech jobs but operations.

Don't blame the foreign workers. They are just trying to work. Blame the companies that are putting profits over Americans. But, then, that's capitalism for you.

And Trump and MAGA love capitalism, right?

Uh huh huh is your post supposed to be insightful or something. I just don't understand the purpose of such a post. Like am I supposed to read that and be like, "Well, I see what you're saying bring in as many H-1b as you want for cheap."

First things first. A) H-1b is not a capitalist concept. It is a highly regulated government function, you can think of it like a service that our government provides to businesses. It has nothing to do with free markets or anyother captialist concept. B) If corporations could just offshore and get chep labor, they't have already gone and done, why aren't you doing it faster?

Yes, corporations are great at putting forth all kinds of inane ideas begging for just another immigrant, but at the end of the day. They know what they want, we know what they want. We have no reason to want to give it to them.

The point of the post is that greedy corporate execs give money to politicians to keep these visas alive. Duh.

Hiring whomever you want to is capitalism.

They are free to hire whomever they want to, they just either have to go over there or bring them here. Neither of which is a capitalist function.

Let me clarify. It's like stealing is there any reason they couldn't just steal a car sell it make money. If that's your bar for capitalism.

But capitalism is about profit, and that's what those politicians bought by corporations support.

I still don't understand the argument. Where is my profit. I have no use for immigrants. Cold simple fact. I am of the same mind as a capitalist.

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I’m not a fan of H1-B visas, but Bessent’s explanation makes sense.

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