Crackdown needed on flower vendors at intersections

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Nobody should be approaching vehicles at intersections. It’s hazardous to them and others, and conditions drivers to not pay attention to what well could be the beginning of a carjacking. Nobody favors individual rights more than me, but this tyranny of the individual over social and behavioral expectations that exist for the common good has worn out it’s welcome.

I always wonder what else those vendors are distributing.


Huh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer they beg for money instead?
They’re selling something so they can support themselves.they’re not begging for money for doing nothing.
You don’t have to buy from them but you seem irrationally annoyed.



Who says you need to beg? Get a job. This is Biden’s fantastic economy with unemployment below 4%. Plenty of jobs other than panhandling illegally and not paying taxes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This area needs to confiscate all of the flowers and money of these annoying street vendors. Yesterday, I was on a major road and some moron decides to flag over one of these flower vendors immediately as the light turns green. Of course they gave zero craps and caused a massive pileup of cars behind them at a major intersection on a very busy road. I was losing my mind stuck behind the idiot buying flowers.

But the point is, all of these street vendors trying to sell flowers at intersections are running illegal businesses. They sure as crap aren’t paying taxes and they don’t have licenses to do that kind of selling. They’re a danger to everyone on the road by causing people to have to swerve out of the lanes for travel when some moron clogs up an entire road because they’re stopped trying to buy flowers. Even when the light is red, these vendors dart between cars, so when the light turns green you might not be able to see them coming from a direction I’d there’s a large vehicle next to you and you run the risk of hitting them. Really sick and tired of the region turning into a 3rd world where anything goes and people feel like they can do whatever they want and dodge paying taxes on their cash transactions. Do we not have rule of law and order anymore in this country? You can’t start illegal businesses and sell things wherever you feel like it in this country. Govts need to get their act together and crackdown on these significant quality of life crimes.


Haha holy crap, you wasted more time writing this diatribe than you were actually delayed in traffic lmao
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, you were delayed for a few seconds by someone who bought flowers at an intersection! Were you late for your heart surgery?


Excuses. What are you gonna say when they cause an accident or get run over?

Why do you make excuses for unlicensed businesses dodging taxes? You are part of the problem for why this region is turning into the 3rd world. Why should a legitimate business obey by all of the laws and regulations for where they can sell and pay taxes while these illegal vendors dodge paying their fair shares of taxes to the state and govt?


I'm going to say that you, as a driver, have a legal obligation to exercise due care not to hit people, and as part of that legal obligation, you, as a driver, should not be driving that fast through intersections.



Lmao, so when is it legal for a de facto pedestrian or street vendor to be in the middle of the road during a green light?


You as a driver have a legal obligation to exercise due care not to hit people even when you have a green light. Decent human beings do their best not to hit other people, irrespective of what the other people are doing.



Decent human beings with common sense who obey our laws pay taxes and don’t stand in the middle of busy roads while there are green lights.


You're not in charge of what they do. You are in charge of what you do. That's a basic lesson from preschool.



The law is in charge of what you do, dimwit. That’s also a basic lesson from preschool.

It’s illegal to panhandle at intersections. It is illegal to dodge taxes. It is illegal to run a business without a license.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This area needs to confiscate all of the flowers and money of these annoying street vendors. Yesterday, I was on a major road and some moron decides to flag over one of these flower vendors immediately as the light turns green. Of course they gave zero craps and caused a massive pileup of cars behind them at a major intersection on a very busy road. I was losing my mind stuck behind the idiot buying flowers.

But the point is, all of these street vendors trying to sell flowers at intersections are running illegal businesses. They sure as crap aren’t paying taxes and they don’t have licenses to do that kind of selling. They’re a danger to everyone on the road by causing people to have to swerve out of the lanes for travel when some moron clogs up an entire road because they’re stopped trying to buy flowers. Even when the light is red, these vendors dart between cars, so when the light turns green you might not be able to see them coming from a direction I’d there’s a large vehicle next to you and you run the risk of hitting them. Really sick and tired of the region turning into a 3rd world where anything goes and people feel like they can do whatever they want and dodge paying taxes on their cash transactions. Do we not have rule of law and order anymore in this country? You can’t start illegal businesses and sell things wherever you feel like it in this country. Govts need to get their act together and crackdown on these significant quality of life crimes.


Haha holy crap, you wasted more time writing this diatribe than you were actually delayed in traffic lmao



Next time you are going somewhere, how about I stop in front of your car for no reason while there is a green light and traffic all around. Let’s see how you like it.
Anonymous
We have these all over Montgomery County.

At the one corner by our house, they leave SO much trash. Tons of water bottles, etc.

I agree that it shouldn’t be allowed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer they beg for money instead?
They’re selling something so they can support themselves.they’re not begging for money for doing nothing.
You don’t have to buy from them but you seem irrationally annoyed.



Who says you need to beg? Get a job. This is Biden’s fantastic economy with unemployment below 4%. Plenty of jobs other than panhandling illegally and not paying taxes.

Umm they’re got a job. They’re selling flowers.
Anonymous
Maybe selling flowers is all they can do.
If they don’t speak good English and don’t have skills not sure where you think they can get a job easily.
They have found something to do to earn money.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer they beg for money instead?
They’re selling something so they can support themselves.they’re not begging for money for doing nothing.
You don’t have to buy from them but you seem irrationally annoyed.



Who says you need to beg? Get a job. This is Biden’s fantastic economy with unemployment below 4%. Plenty of jobs other than panhandling illegally and not paying taxes.

Umm they’re got a job. They’re selling flowers.



How is it a legal job when it is unlicensed and they don’t pay taxes? Show me anywhere where laws allow for vendors at lights. They don’t have a job, they have an illegal under the table cash business with no licenses or permits. Next, I bet you’ll argue that people running illegal gambling dens ‘have jobs’, lol.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe selling flowers is all they can do.
If they don’t speak good English and don’t have skills not sure where you think they can get a job easily.
They have found something to do to earn money.



You don’t need insane IQ or any skills at all to wash dishes at a restaurant, flip burgers or clean toilets. Those are legal jibs where they have to pay taxes through a real employer. Good grief.
Anonymous
The real flower shops that pay taxes and employ people and obey regulations suffer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Would you prefer they beg for money instead?
They’re selling something so they can support themselves.they’re not begging for money for doing nothing.
You don’t have to buy from them but you seem irrationally annoyed.



Who says you need to beg? Get a job. This is Biden’s fantastic economy with unemployment below 4%. Plenty of jobs other than panhandling illegally and not paying taxes.

dp.. people who don't have an education basically work minimum wage jobs. Have you ever tried to survive on minimum wage? I think these people are probably working multiple jobs. I saw a young boy (about 12 maybe) selling the flowers. Broke my heart.

It can be annoying when the light turns green and the person doesn't move, BUT, I am also compassionate enough to know that these street flower vendors are just trying to support their families.

I'm sorry that offends you.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, you were delayed for a few seconds by someone who bought flowers at an intersection! Were you late for your heart surgery?


Excuses. What are you gonna say when they cause an accident or get run over?

Why do you make excuses for unlicensed businesses dodging taxes? You are part of the problem for why this region is turning into the 3rd world. Why should a legitimate business obey by all of the laws and regulations for where they can sell and pay taxes while these illegal vendors dodge paying their fair shares of taxes to the state and govt?


I'm going to say that you, as a driver, have a legal obligation to exercise due care not to hit people, and as part of that legal obligation, you, as a driver, should not be driving that fast through intersections.



Lmao, so when is it legal for a de facto pedestrian or street vendor to be in the middle of the road during a green light?


You as a driver have a legal obligation to exercise due care not to hit people even when you have a green light. Decent human beings do their best not to hit other people, irrespective of what the other people are doing.



Decent human beings with common sense who obey our laws pay taxes and don’t stand in the middle of busy roads while there are green lights.


You're not in charge of what they do. You are in charge of what you do. That's a basic lesson from preschool.



The law is in charge of what you do, dimwit. That’s also a basic lesson from preschool.

It’s illegal to panhandle at intersections. It is illegal to dodge taxes. It is illegal to run a business without a license.


Are you the law?

Where I live, it is not illegal to panhandle at intersections, and whether or not a business needs a license depends on the type of business; some businesses do not need a license.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The real flower shops that pay taxes and employ people and obey regulations suffer.



Yup, +100.


As usual, law abiding businesses and people get penalized because we are lax on lawbreakers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh no, you were delayed for a few seconds by someone who bought flowers at an intersection! Were you late for your heart surgery?


Excuses. What are you gonna say when they cause an accident or get run over?

Why do you make excuses for unlicensed businesses dodging taxes? You are part of the problem for why this region is turning into the 3rd world. Why should a legitimate business obey by all of the laws and regulations for where they can sell and pay taxes while these illegal vendors dodge paying their fair shares of taxes to the state and govt?


I'm going to say that you, as a driver, have a legal obligation to exercise due care not to hit people, and as part of that legal obligation, you, as a driver, should not be driving that fast through intersections.



Lmao, so when is it legal for a de facto pedestrian or street vendor to be in the middle of the road during a green light?


You as a driver have a legal obligation to exercise due care not to hit people even when you have a green light. Decent human beings do their best not to hit other people, irrespective of what the other people are doing.



Decent human beings with common sense who obey our laws pay taxes and don’t stand in the middle of busy roads while there are green lights.


You're not in charge of what they do. You are in charge of what you do. That's a basic lesson from preschool.



The law is in charge of what you do, dimwit. That’s also a basic lesson from preschool.

It’s illegal to panhandle at intersections. It is illegal to dodge taxes. It is illegal to run a business without a license.


Are you the law?

Where I live, it is not illegal to panhandle at intersections, and whether or not a business needs a license depends on the type of business; some businesses do not need a license.


Is it unlawful to block traffic? To jaywalk? To create unreasonable hazards? Because it’s not about panhandling. Or poverty. It’s about rules of general application. Pedestrians have no business in the road.
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