This is a good list. The main theme is make changes well before you think they are necessary. What my parents did and what a lot of old people want to do is stay in place and do what they're doing until they can't do it anymore. By the time you can't do it anymore, it's far too late and becomes your children's problem. |
I am first gen Indian immigrant so I have not had to deal with aging parents on day to day basis. My aging ILs are in India and I fly back frequently to visit them and do a lot of remote care -CCTV, attendants, domestic help - which is a financial possibility in India.
In my mind, the culture of multi-generational families removes the challenges of eldercare and childcare if the family is functional and collaborative. In Indian culture, at least we do have a blueprint for this type of living. In US, I observe with interest how others in my community are navigating old age. Example 1 - One widowed friend sold her house and pooled the money with her 2 married ACs to help both children buy large homes in good school districts in different cities. She is the co-owner and has her own independent unit in these homes and shares the common area. Her kids would not have been able to afford these houses at such an young age without her help. She lives in both places and has her friends circle and medical care in both places. More importantly, she has freed herself of home maintainence tasks, personal security concerns or having someone to take care of her if she is unwell because the infrastructure is in place in both houses. At the same time, she had control of her property, and her independence. Example 2 - Another older couple, had their eldest son and DIL continue to live in to their home after marriage and continued supporting them. Once the younger couple were financially solvent, the older couple sold their home and all became co-owners of a large home in a good school district in DMV. At one point four generations were living in the same house. Later on, the older couple, sold their ownership to their son and DIL and started paying rent to them. They used the money to finance their youngest son's house. Through long illness and death of the older man, the family has shared the care and the life of the remaining partner has not been upended. In the case of both examples, several things were common - - the parents were fairly young. First example, the lady as in her early 50s. The second example - the family were always in a multi-gen living and the older couple were also in their 50s. - the parents were not broke. They all had the money to live independently if needed. They had also paid for their kids college, weddings etc so there is a natural gratefulness and respect for parents making these sacrifices for their children. - the parents retained control of their money and property. - the parents helped the children buy homes that they could not have bought by themselves. They also pitched in money to outsource chores (cleaners, landscapers, part time cook) that made it comfortable for the entire family and did not cause resentment - the grandparents helped in raising the grandkids and it fostered bonds in the family - the grandparents though very attached with their families, also had a thriving social life. |
Yes, a wonderful and useful list. Thank you to the PP for laying out some useful guidelines. |
I've done all those on the list, PP, and I totally agree. My kids will have it easy. Really getting back into shape after spending the last couple of years on taking care of my parent's estate and them. Jeez, it was rough. They were great on the money side, but the enormous house full of stuff no one wants and the tenacity of them remaining there until it was way past time to go to AL. OMG, I think I aged 5-10 years. |
I’m the PP about having to see my mom twice a week. We are very close and I love her very much. She is in assisted living and part of a sub-group there that’s sort of transitionary for people suffering from cognitive impairment. There’s about ten of them and they have separate activities during the week when their counselor is there. So she’s really busy during the week and she has made friends there. I also know that logically that she’s not going to be around forever and I’m going to be devastated when she’s gone. I see her twice a week, every week. Once in an evening after work and one day when I’m off work. If it was up to her I’d come a third time, at a minimum. She’s extremely codependent. Personally I think once a week would be ideal. My issue is that I’m a total sandwich generation- I have a full time job, a husband, kids, a house to maintain and the remnants of a social life (which has really taken a hit the last year or two). I never have any time for me. All of my time is devoted to others. It takes me months to schedule a haircut or a dental cleaning or a mammogram or anything that isn’t a necessity because there is only so much time in a day. I’ve lost touch with most of my friends because they eventually stop inviting me to things when the answer is always no. I accept the sacrifice I make for kids because that was a choice I made. And I logically recognize that my mom took care of me when I was young so it’s a payback for her. But at what cost? My mom unloads on me every time I see her with whatever the complaints of the week are. It’s just a totally unhealthy dynamic and one I can’t seem to fix. I may get to her place and she’ll be smiling and happy and enjoying her time and within an hour of my arrival she’s miserable and complaining about this or that or this person or that ailment and it’s a lot. Every visit I leave with a list of things she needs or a list of calls to make to set up appointments for her, and every time I come I bring whatever it is that she indicated she needed from the last visit that I’ve since procured for her. I leave the visits completely drained. Every time, twice a week, it’s absolutely exhausting. I wish I knew the answer. It’s truly a lose-lose situation. |
Assisted suicide for debilitating, terminal illness. |
It's only available in 10 states and the District of Columbia. https://www.cnn.com/2014/11/26/us/physician-assisted-suicide-fast-facts/index.html |
Totally agree with all this. Just got a parent moved to a retirement place, probably a couple of years too late. Consolidated all assets with a financial advisor, which is a huge help. I also have Power of Attorney so can make decisions when needed. Emptied and sold the house. Parent couldn’t help much with that which was a bear. Definitely downsize before you have to stick your kids with it. So much crap to deal with. |
Switzerland. Don’t need to go through the hoopla. Infinitely preferable to draining all assets and ruining children’s lives. |
I wonder if the availability of assisted suicide will change in the coming years. I'd like to think I would be strong enough to take that decision, even before it became medically necessary, if I knew what was coming for me. With a dementia diagnosis, you'd have to be ready to go "early." |
My mom is like this, too. I am her chosen dumpster - the only person who receives all of her anger and other hard emotions - most often tied to complaints about father and how miserable her life is with him. She has been doing this for 30 years. I am sick of it. I have tried repeatedly to set boundaries in a loving way, then a firm way. She comes back at me with "It's your job to listen to me because I have no one else I feel comfortable talking to." Now I just avoid her. It has truly ruined our relationship. I think this kind of behavior needs to be on the list of what not to do to our kids. I think if we had a better, more positive relationship, so much of this would be easier to deal with. |
Do people ever just donate/ throw out the contents of the whole house? I can’t imagine anyone will want my parents stuff, even as donations. It’s junk.
I’ll take the pictures and throw out the rest. Or does it end up being psychologically hard to do so? |
Thanks to the PP with all the tips.
My parents won't give me any sort of list of bank accounts because they don't want me to know what they have because my husband "might lose his drive if he knows he'll be getting a lot of money". Nonetheless I am expected to take care of their finances once my father goes. My mother begged me to promise never to put her in a home and I have a first floor guest room next to a full bath that I said would be hers. She responded "I don't want to end my life in that tiny room with a view of the neighbor's yard. I was hoping you'd move somewhere waterfront." Thanks mom! She gave me a full written account of what she wants done if she gets dementia (which she sadly had to nurse my grandpa through) which involved a Xanax overdose on a scenic pier. I told her there was no way I could be involved in this without a criminal charge, even if she has a legal document that she wants it. Praying things go smoothly. |
Before her dementia got too bad, my mother used to tell me she did not want to be a burden. Unsurprisingly, she became a great burden as her dementia progressed. She now begs me to take her home every time I visit her in memory care.
Once my kids are old enough, I want them to understand that if/when I am debilitated with dementia, that I may say hurtful or guilt inducing things to them, but that it's the disease talking and not my true self talking. I'd want them to know that it's okay to feel bad, but to try not to feel guilt--because doing what works for them in regards to visiting or caring for me is the best thing they can do. Also, if it hasn't already been mentioned, plan out and pay for your funeral in advance. |
Take the stuff you want and offer the rest to friends and family. Once everyone has taken what they want host an estate sale. After the estate sale call the junk hauler people for the rest. BTDT. |