School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

[Anonymous]

I got one of these recently and I 100% deserved it. I am glad the fine is steep and I certainly learned my lesson.

[Anonymous]

Was there a divider? I'm honestly surprised that 7 lanes wouldn't have a divider. And if it doesn't, I don't think a school bus should be stopping on such a busy road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I disagree with your unhinged and intolerant screed against foreigners and people from out of state.

There is an assumption under the law that if you hold a valid driver's license from another jurisdiction, you may exchange it for a MD driver's license. The people who cause car accidents are statistically young adults and the elderly - regardless of where they come from. Which means the majority of accidents on River Rd will be caused by Montgomery County drivers.

- European whose driving test in Paris was much harder than the incredibly easy one given here in MD. MOST wealthy countries have harder driving tests than the ones given in the USA, actually.

Don't care.

Do care that drivers here know right of way rules, merging rules, school bus stop rules, passing rules, signage meaning, ambulance/ police siren rules, etc. in USA.

Again, only Maryland does not require a refresher or proof of at least road rules knowledge.
Look at its accident rate, hit rate, ticketing rate, insurance rate. High, high, high, high. Breaks the record for the country in many metrics. So many accidents they don't keep car accident stats, but look around, it's not (nationally?) young adults and the elderly. Most teens here don't get their license on time, ie age 16.

Most states, you'd sit for a short test after your vision test. Yes the test can be in any of 20+ languages.

This is incorrect. I received a DC license when I moved here and submitted my other state DL. No written or road test. From other jurisdictions in the US I don’t know why you feel that would necessary. Except perhaps for the legality of right turns on red, and directonal street parking the rules are the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was there a divider? I'm honestly surprised that 7 lanes wouldn't have a divider. And if it doesn't, I don't think a school bus should be stopping on such a busy road.

No divider/median. But OP is full of shyte - River at that location is two lanes outbound and two lanes inbound with a middle turn lane. Check Google maps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was there a divider? I'm honestly surprised that 7 lanes wouldn't have a divider. And if it doesn't, I don't think a school bus should be stopping on such a busy road.

River Road there is crazy busy, and residential except for that tall retirement home thing.

Thx for the Public Service Announcement that they’re issuing pricey school bus camera tickets.
Ironic that the video link they typically include on auto-camera tickets shows no cars stopping, not even their own bus going the other way. Seems like a money bus stop for sure, maybe double check any kid actually got out even!

[Anonymous]

*not residential

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:*not residential

Apartment buildings are residential. Condo buildings are too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:*not residential

It doesn't matter if its residential. If a school bus stops and the stop sign swing arm comes out (yellow lights on top turn to red), you must stop. Full and complete on both sides of the road unless there is a permanent divider.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a concrete median? If so contest the ticket. If not sitter should have stopped.

I have been driving through that intersection for basically my entire life since our veterinarian is just off River there. There is no concrete barrier there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was there a divider? I'm honestly surprised that 7 lanes wouldn't have a divider. And if it doesn't, I don't think a school bus should be stopping on such a busy road.

It’s not seven lanes, it’s two each way with a turn lane in the middle. There is a huge condo building on the busy road, where exactly should the bus picking up and dropping off students who live there stop?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Was there a divider? I'm honestly surprised that 7 lanes wouldn't have a divider. And if it doesn't, I don't think a school bus should be stopping on such a busy road.

River Road there is crazy busy, and residential except for that tall retirement home thing.

Thx for the Public Service Announcement that they’re issuing pricey school bus camera tickets.
Ironic that the video link they typically include on auto-camera tickets shows no cars stopping, not even their own bus going the other way. Seems like a money bus stop for sure, maybe double check any kid actually got out even!

Ironic that no one stops for a school bus? On a particularly busy road, drivers should be particularly careful, don’t you think?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:*not residential

It doesn't matter if its residential. If a school bus stops and the stop sign swing arm comes out (yellow lights on top turn to red), you must stop. Full and complete on both sides of the road unless there is a permanent divider.

Clearly NO ONE sees the bus sign or lights as NO ONE stopped. Even another school bus drove on by.

Aren’t MCPS and MoCo concerned? If I saw 10 tickets every time a bus stopped on a non-residential street I’d do a lot more than send $250 tickets.
Get a fog horn on the bus. Put a squad car and megaphone out there. This could be dangerous. The retirement home kid may need a popsical from the gas stations on the other side and use the bus stop sign instead of the cross walk by the light…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:*not residential

It doesn't matter if it’s residential. If a school bus stops and the stop sign swing arm comes out (yellow lights on top turn to red), you must stop. Full and complete on both sides of the road unless there is a permanent divider.

So check it out at 3:10-3:20pm Mon-Fri.

See what happens when the school bus stops. Or see what happened when 1 car out of 10 comes to a sudden stop on river road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was there a divider? I'm honestly surprised that 7 lanes wouldn't have a divider. And if it doesn't, I don't think a school bus should be stopping on such a busy road.

River Road there is crazy busy, and residential except for that tall retirement home thing.

Thx for the Public Service Announcement that they’re issuing pricey school bus camera tickets.
Ironic that the video link they typically include on auto-camera tickets shows no cars stopping, not even their own bus going the other way. Seems like a money bus stop for sure, maybe double check any kid actually got out even!

Ironic that no one stops for a school bus? On a particularly busy road, drivers should be particularly careful, don’t you think?

Bus should stop across from the McDonalds. That usually has the drive through line going onto the median lane plus the whole right south lane all clogged up. No one can see anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:*not residential

It doesn't matter if its residential. If a school bus stops and the stop sign swing arm comes out (yellow lights on top turn to red), you must stop. Full and complete on both sides of the road unless there is a permanent divider.

Clearly NO ONE sees the bus sign or lights as NO ONE stopped. Even another school bus drove on by.

Aren’t MCPS and MoCo concerned? If I saw 10 tickets every time a bus stopped on a non-residential street I’d do a lot more than send $250 tickets.
Get a fog horn on the bus. Put a squad car and megaphone out there. This could be dangerous. The retirement home kid may need a popsical from the gas stations on the other side and use the bus stop sign instead of the cross walk by the light…

Politicians don't want MCPD enforcing traffic laws. Don't you see Jawando's new STEP bill that prohibits low level stops?