School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s like a school bus stopping on Connecticut avenue where it’s 6 lanes and if every other shop had a front driveway with traffic going in and out plus a red light and turn lanes every 400 meters.

Not gonna happen.

As someone who had to cross Connecticut Avenue to get to school every day in the 90s I would have been THRILLED if there was a way to get commuters to actually stop for kids crossing. Would have loved it if the guy who called me a whore for trying to cross the street when I was 14 and it as raining out would have gotten a ticket for not yielding.

Go to the traffic light cross walk. Not the middle of the stretch.

According to Maryland state law, every intersection is legally a legal crosswalk, where pedestrians have the right-of-way. Not just intersections with traffic signals, not just intersections with white painted crosswalks. Every intersection.

Are you weird.

“Look Ma, I intersected the commercial highway!”

Smack.

Just something for you to keep in mind, if you complain about jaywalkers while driving. Chances are, they're obeying traffic laws, while you are violating them.

[Anonymous]

This is something that should be handed to unmarked police to survey. Sounds like chaos.

I used to reverse commute that way and after school drivers, construction crew, commuters, gas stations, 5 lanes of busy-ness plus a school bus stopping would be a disaster in the afternoon.

Op should escalate to police or press. There needs to be better enforcement or a better school bus stop location. Agree the parkway corner of the highrise would be safer than the commercial roadway stop.

Obviously marked police people or car would stop everything.

[Anonymous]

Ie right now there is zero enforcement - just ticketing of trucks, cars and bus drivers isolating the law.

If mission is safety this needs to escalate.

If mission is not safety and monetary, they will continue to do nothing.

That part of River road is so heavily used it’s not all repeat daily drivers. Lots of crew use that artery.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness that kid doesn’t cross the side lane busy highway! They just slowly step out of the stopped school bus and walk 20 paces into the old apartment building.

Meanwhile the bus camera snaps 5 lanes of cars whizzing around, turning on and off for over road, and mails them each a $250 ticket. Other schools buses exempt; they can keep driving and not pay.

Apparently state law requires drivers to stop for stopped school buses, EXCEPT when

1. drivers think the school bus shouldn't be stopping there
2. drivers think it's beyond their driving skills to stop for a stopped school bus
3. drivers think the road is too dangerous to stop for a stopped school bus
4. drivers are unable to see a giant yellow motor vehicle

The things I learn on DCUM.

Interesting take. I've learned that this is a bus stop that is poorly designed and the county should look at alternatives/make changes rather than continue to rake in $$ from tickets.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is something that should be handed to unmarked police to survey. Sounds like chaos.

I used to reverse commute that way and after school drivers, construction crew, commuters, gas stations, 5 lanes of busy-ness plus a school bus stopping would be a disaster in the afternoon.

Op should escalate to police or press. There needs to be better enforcement or a better school bus stop location. Agree the parkway corner of the highrise would be safer than the commercial roadway stop.

Obviously marked police people or car would stop everything.

There is no "parkway corner of the highrise." The building is not on the corner. The corner is park land.

The only disaster is drivers getting citations they're complaining about. People are describing River Road like it's the Grand Canyon. It's about 65 feet, curb to curb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ie right now there is zero enforcement - just ticketing of trucks, cars and bus drivers isolating the law.

If mission is safety this needs to escalate.

If mission is not safety and monetary, they will continue to do nothing.

That part of River road is so heavily used it’s not all repeat daily drivers. Lots of crew use that artery.

Ticketing is enforcement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ie right now there is zero enforcement - just ticketing of trucks, cars and bus drivers isolating the law.

If mission is safety this needs to escalate.

If mission is not safety and monetary, they will continue to do nothing.

That part of River road is so heavily used it’s not all repeat daily drivers. Lots of crew use that artery.

It’s monetary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ie right now there is zero enforcement - just ticketing of trucks, cars and bus drivers isolating the law.

If mission is safety this needs to escalate.

If mission is not safety and monetary, they will continue to do nothing.

That part of River road is so heavily used it’s not all repeat daily drivers. Lots of crew use that artery.

It’s monetary.

You can avoid the monetary penalty by stopping for the stopped school bus.

[Anonymous]

So much whining! For one school bus twice per day.

Why do MoCo drivers always think River Rd is their personal speedway?

Pls go to the police, MCPS and press on this terrible situation where you actually have to drive slower and stop for school children. Report back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ie right now there is zero enforcement - just ticketing of trucks, cars and bus drivers isolating the law.

If mission is safety this needs to escalate.

If mission is not safety and monetary, they will continue to do nothing.

That part of River road is so heavily used it’s not all repeat daily drivers. Lots of crew use that artery.

It’s monetary.

Looks like hitting your wallet is the best way to get your attention. Carry on, Montgomery County!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ie right now there is zero enforcement - just ticketing of trucks, cars and bus drivers isolating the law.

If mission is safety this needs to escalate.

If mission is not safety and monetary, they will continue to do nothing.

That part of River road is so heavily used it’s not all repeat daily drivers. Lots of crew use that artery.

It’s monetary.

Looks like hitting your wallet is the best way to get your attention. Carry on, Montgomery County!

Thanks, but I've never gotten a single camera ticket. It's pretty easy to avoid them -- watch for school buses and pay attention to the "photo enforced" language on speed limit signs.

[Anonymous]

Looks like no one is stopping for the bus, even MCPS own busses going by the other direction.

If MoCo or MCPS was safety focused they’d find an actual solution.

If MoCo or MCPS was not safety focused they’d continue doing nothing but camera tickets to 10+ violators per stop on busy commercial roads.

It’s mainly repair trucks and school pick up Nannies that time of day. We dcum’ers be in our home or work offices until 6pm!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ie right now there is zero enforcement - just ticketing of trucks, cars and bus drivers isolating the law.

If mission is safety this needs to escalate.

If mission is not safety and monetary, they will continue to do nothing.

That part of River road is so heavily used it’s not all repeat daily drivers. Lots of crew use that artery.

It’s monetary.

Looks like hitting your wallet is the best way to get your attention. Carry on, Montgomery County!

They need to compete with DC’s speed cams and stop sign cams. It’s a race to see who can get to $100m in a fiscal year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much whining! For one school bus twice per day.

Why do MoCo drivers always think River Rd is their personal speedway?

Pls go to the police, MCPS and press on this terrible situation where you actually have to drive slower and stop for school children. Report back.

Highly doubt its even 50% MoCo registered vehicles, probably all 6 counties well represented in that commercial highway doing work all around the three DMV areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like no one is stopping for the bus, even MCPS own busses going by the other direction.

If MoCo or MCPS was safety focused they’d find an actual solution.

If MoCo or MCPS was not safety focused they’d continue doing nothing but camera tickets to 10+ violators per stop on busy commercial roads.

It’s mainly repair trucks and school pick up Nannies that time of day. We dcum’ers be in our home or work offices until 6pm!

It's a state road, not a county road.

If the state were safety focused, they'd reduce River Road from 5 lanes to 3.