School camera tickets, $250 * 10 cars every stop on River Road, Bethesda

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness that kid doesn’t cross the side lane busy highway! They just slowly step out of the stopped school bus and walk 20 paces into the old apartment building.

Meanwhile the bus camera snaps 5 lanes of cars whizzing around, turning on and off for over road, and mails them each a $250 ticket. Other schools buses exempt; they can keep driving and not pay.

Apparently state law requires drivers to stop for stopped school buses, EXCEPT when

1. drivers think the school bus shouldn't be stopping there
2. drivers think it's beyond their driving skills to stop for a stopped school bus
3. drivers think the road is too dangerous to stop for a stopped school bus
4. drivers are unable to see a giant yellow motor vehicle

The things I learn on DCUM.

Let’s ask Bus 302 why it didn’t stop.

Oh my goodness. Are you ten? “But Mommy, Tommy didn’t stop when the law requires that he stop so why should I? It’s not faaaiiirrr!!!”

No one is going to stop. Too many cars going to the speed limit minding too many business driveways, lanes and cars to stop 20 feet before a moving bus just as it may or may not stop and turn out its sign.

That’s the actual problem with that bus stop, location, turnouts and volume of traffic.

Harp all you want about the rules, no one is stopping. Call the news and have them watch from 3-3:30pm

Then people who don’t stop will continue to get big fat tickets.

The only way the news will be interested is if one of you bad drivers hits a kid because you didn’t stop for the bus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got a ticket there once and now keep a look out for that bus right around 3:10. I stop. If one person does, everyone generally does. Then again, I’m also the one who stops to let ppl cross in the crosswalk near the bridge there.

Good luck not getting rear ended by 20+ vehicles who won’t know WTF you slowed down or stopped.

I don’t know when you drive there but at 3 pm, you’re not really driving quickly there anyways. I can see the bus once I pass the footbridge and I start slowing down there if it’s stop sign is out. The cars behind me follow suit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got a ticket there once and now keep a look out for that bus right around 3:10. I stop. If one person does, everyone generally does. Then again, I’m also the one who stops to let ppl cross in the crosswalk near the bridge there.

Good luck not getting rear ended by 20+ vehicles who won’t know WTF you slowed down or stopped.

I don’t know when you drive there but at 3 pm, you’re not really driving quickly there anyways. I can see the bus once I pass the footbridge and I start slowing down there if it’s stop sign is out. The cars behind me follow suit.

DP. If there's tons of traffic, then drivers are already going slowly. And if drivers are already going slowly, then they can see the bus, and they can also stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness that kid doesn’t cross the side lane busy highway! They just slowly step out of the stopped school bus and walk 20 paces into the old apartment building.

Meanwhile the bus camera snaps 5 lanes of cars whizzing around, turning on and off for over road, and mails them each a $250 ticket. Other schools buses exempt; they can keep driving and not pay.

Apparently state law requires drivers to stop for stopped school buses, EXCEPT when

1. drivers think the school bus shouldn't be stopping there
2. drivers think it's beyond their driving skills to stop for a stopped school bus
3. drivers think the road is too dangerous to stop for a stopped school bus
4. drivers are unable to see a giant yellow motor vehicle

The things I learn on DCUM.

Let’s ask Bus 302 why it didn’t stop.

Oh my goodness. Are you ten? “But Mommy, Tommy didn’t stop when the law requires that he stop so why should I? It’s not faaaiiirrr!!!”

No one is going to stop. Too many cars going to the speed limit minding too many business driveways, lanes and cars to stop 20 feet before a moving bus just as it may or may not stop and turn out its sign.

That’s the actual problem with that bus stop, location, turnouts and volume of traffic.

Harp all you want about the rules, no one is stopping. Call the news and have them watch from 3-3:30pm

Then people who don’t stop will continue to get big fat tickets.

The only way the news will be interested is if one of you bad drivers hits a kid because you didn’t stop for the bus.

There's really no way to hit a kid there if the kids get off the bus and walk to the apartment complex. They aren't crossing any traffic. There's no reason for in the southbound lanes to stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness that kid doesn’t cross the side lane busy highway! They just slowly step out of the stopped school bus and walk 20 paces into the old apartment building.

Meanwhile the bus camera snaps 5 lanes of cars whizzing around, turning on and off for over road, and mails them each a $250 ticket. Other schools buses exempt; they can keep driving and not pay.

Apparently state law requires drivers to stop for stopped school buses, EXCEPT when

1. drivers think the school bus shouldn't be stopping there
2. drivers think it's beyond their driving skills to stop for a stopped school bus
3. drivers think the road is too dangerous to stop for a stopped school bus
4. drivers are unable to see a giant yellow motor vehicle

The things I learn on DCUM.

Interesting take. I've learned that this is a bus stop that is poorly designed and the county should look at alternatives/make changes rather than continue to rake in $$ from tickets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s like a school bus stopping on Connecticut avenue where it’s 6 lanes and if every other shop had a front driveway with traffic going in and out plus a red light and turn lanes every 400 meters.

Not gonna happen.

As someone who had to cross Connecticut Avenue to get to school every day in the 90s I would have been THRILLED if there was a way to get commuters to actually stop for kids crossing. Would have loved it if the guy who called me a whore for trying to cross the street when I was 14 and it as raining out would have gotten a ticket for not yielding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness that kid doesn’t cross the side lane busy highway! They just slowly step out of the stopped school bus and walk 20 paces into the old apartment building.

Meanwhile the bus camera snaps 5 lanes of cars whizzing around, turning on and off for over road, and mails them each a $250 ticket. Other schools buses exempt; they can keep driving and not pay.

Apparently state law requires drivers to stop for stopped school buses, EXCEPT when

1. drivers think the school bus shouldn't be stopping there
2. drivers think it's beyond their driving skills to stop for a stopped school bus
3. drivers think the road is too dangerous to stop for a stopped school bus
4. drivers are unable to see a giant yellow motor vehicle

The things I learn on DCUM.

Interesting take. I've learned that this is a bus stop that is poorly designed and the county should look at alternatives/make changes rather than continue to rake in $$ from tickets.

The bus is stopping to drop off the kids where the kids live. What alternatives do you have in mind? How about the state (it's a state road) reducing the number of lanes from 5 to 3, would that be ok with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s like a school bus stopping on Connecticut avenue where it’s 6 lanes and if every other shop had a front driveway with traffic going in and out plus a red light and turn lanes every 400 meters.

Not gonna happen.

As someone who had to cross Connecticut Avenue to get to school every day in the 90s I would have been THRILLED if there was a way to get commuters to actually stop for kids crossing. Would have loved it if the guy who called me a whore for trying to cross the street when I was 14 and it as raining out would have gotten a ticket for not yielding.

Go to the traffic light cross walk. Not the middle of the stretch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got a ticket there once and now keep a look out for that bus right around 3:10. I stop. If one person does, everyone generally does. Then again, I’m also the one who stops to let ppl cross in the crosswalk near the bridge there.

Good luck not getting rear ended by 20+ vehicles who won’t know WTF you slowed down or stopped.

I don’t know when you drive there but at 3 pm, you’re not really driving quickly there anyways. I can see the bus once I pass the footbridge and I start slowing down there if it’s stop sign is out. The cars behind me follow suit.

I’m usually dodging McDonald’s, Whole Foods, and gas station cars who need to turn and change three lanes all in a matter of seconds. It’s a $hit$how to drive there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank goodness that kid doesn’t cross the side lane busy highway! They just slowly step out of the stopped school bus and walk 20 paces into the old apartment building.

Meanwhile the bus camera snaps 5 lanes of cars whizzing around, turning on and off for over road, and mails them each a $250 ticket. Other schools buses exempt; they can keep driving and not pay.

Apparently state law requires drivers to stop for stopped school buses, EXCEPT when

1. drivers think the school bus shouldn't be stopping there
2. drivers think it's beyond their driving skills to stop for a stopped school bus
3. drivers think the road is too dangerous to stop for a stopped school bus
4. drivers are unable to see a giant yellow motor vehicle

The things I learn on DCUM.

Let’s ask Bus 302 why it didn’t stop.

Oh my goodness. Are you ten? “But Mommy, Tommy didn’t stop when the law requires that he stop so why should I? It’s not faaaiiirrr!!!”

No one is going to stop. Too many cars going to the speed limit minding too many business driveways, lanes and cars to stop 20 feet before a moving bus just as it may or may not stop and turn out its sign.

That’s the actual problem with that bus stop, location, turnouts and volume of traffic.

Harp all you want about the rules, no one is stopping. Call the news and have them watch from 3-3:30pm

Then people who don’t stop will continue to get big fat tickets.

The only way the news will be interested is if one of you bad drivers hits a kid because you didn’t stop for the bus.

Not likely.

More likely whomever quickly stops will get rear-ended and cause a pile-up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s like a school bus stopping on Connecticut avenue where it’s 6 lanes and if every other shop had a front driveway with traffic going in and out plus a red light and turn lanes every 400 meters.

Not gonna happen.

As someone who had to cross Connecticut Avenue to get to school every day in the 90s I would have been THRILLED if there was a way to get commuters to actually stop for kids crossing. Would have loved it if the guy who called me a whore for trying to cross the street when I was 14 and it as raining out would have gotten a ticket for not yielding.

Go to the traffic light cross walk. Not the middle of the stretch.

According to Maryland state law, every intersection is legally a legal crosswalk, where pedestrians have the right-of-way. Not just intersections with traffic signals, not just intersections with white painted crosswalks. Every intersection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s like a school bus stopping on Connecticut avenue where it’s 6 lanes and if every other shop had a front driveway with traffic going in and out plus a red light and turn lanes every 400 meters.

Not gonna happen.

As someone who had to cross Connecticut Avenue to get to school every day in the 90s I would have been THRILLED if there was a way to get commuters to actually stop for kids crossing. Would have loved it if the guy who called me a whore for trying to cross the street when I was 14 and it as raining out would have gotten a ticket for not yielding.

Go to the traffic light cross walk. Not the middle of the stretch.

According to Maryland state law, every intersection is legally a legal crosswalk, where pedestrians have the right-of-way. Not just intersections with traffic signals, not just intersections with white painted crosswalks. Every intersection.

Pedestrians have the right of way in parking lots. So that means idiots use this to walk directly behind cars that are actively backing up, not understanding the laws of physics. Your right of way means nothing if you step in front of a car in motion because ‘you have the right of way’. It’s a game of chicken - can the laws of physics ensure the car stops on time before it kills or maims you? Makes much more sense (as in common sense) to say “the law is on my side, but that car is in motion and even if the driver hits the brakes, it might not stop in time, so I’ll wait until there are no cars coming to cross”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s like a school bus stopping on Connecticut avenue where it’s 6 lanes and if every other shop had a front driveway with traffic going in and out plus a red light and turn lanes every 400 meters.

Not gonna happen.

As someone who had to cross Connecticut Avenue to get to school every day in the 90s I would have been THRILLED if there was a way to get commuters to actually stop for kids crossing. Would have loved it if the guy who called me a whore for trying to cross the street when I was 14 and it as raining out would have gotten a ticket for not yielding.

Go to the traffic light cross walk. Not the middle of the stretch.

According to Maryland state law, every intersection is legally a legal crosswalk, where pedestrians have the right-of-way. Not just intersections with traffic signals, not just intersections with white painted crosswalks. Every intersection.

Pedestrians have the right of way in parking lots. So that means idiots use this to walk directly behind cars that are actively backing up, not understanding the laws of physics. Your right of way means nothing if you step in front of a car in motion because ‘you have the right of way’. It’s a game of chicken - can the laws of physics ensure the car stops on time before it kills or maims you? Makes much more sense (as in common sense) to say “the law is on my side, but that car is in motion and even if the driver hits the brakes, it might not stop in time, so I’ll wait until there are no cars coming to cross”

It's impossible for drivers to obey traffic laws, apparently. Assuming the drivers even know what the laws are.

[Anonymous]

No road rules test in Maryland for license conversions and 50% of them from other states or countries. Identity fraud licenses are prevalent too.
Who knows what was taught or not there. If anything.

Ever watch was idiots do in DC when there a siren?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s like a school bus stopping on Connecticut avenue where it’s 6 lanes and if every other shop had a front driveway with traffic going in and out plus a red light and turn lanes every 400 meters.

Not gonna happen.

As someone who had to cross Connecticut Avenue to get to school every day in the 90s I would have been THRILLED if there was a way to get commuters to actually stop for kids crossing. Would have loved it if the guy who called me a whore for trying to cross the street when I was 14 and it as raining out would have gotten a ticket for not yielding.

Go to the traffic light cross walk. Not the middle of the stretch.

According to Maryland state law, every intersection is legally a legal crosswalk, where pedestrians have the right-of-way. Not just intersections with traffic signals, not just intersections with white painted crosswalks. Every intersection.

Are you weird.

“Look Ma, I intersected the commercial highway!”

Smack.