Classical education

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.

If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.

If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.

Oh, please!

[Anonymous]

Do any Catholic schools in NOVA offer a classical education?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do any Catholic schools in NOVA offer a classical education?

Can you define a classical education?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.

If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.

There's always one that shows up with this drivel. A focus on liberal arts, classical literature, and the history of Western civilization is good, actually.

OP, most Catholic schools have at least pieces of this if they're not all in. And the level of Catholicism varies by school, so I wouldn't count them out entirely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do any Catholic schools in NOVA offer a classical education?

Can you define a classical education?

While an actual classical education is hard to find, I'll tell you what most parents would be satisfied with:
Actual history taught in early elementary as opposed to social studies ("community helpers" "global citizens" etc.)
Reading abridged kids' versions of classic texts as opposed to Fountas & Pinnell readers or politicized children's picture books
Hands-on science learning
Handwriting
Grammar
Spelling
Correcting the above in children's writing
Practicing math facts until they are mastered as opposed to "big picture" math

[Anonymous]

Which high schools do these kids go to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trinity in Falls Church. It is Christian so you need to be on board with that, but if you are, parents I know who send their kids there love it.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.

If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.

There's always one that shows up with this drivel. A focus on liberal arts, classical literature, and the history of Western civilization is good, actually.

OP, most Catholic schools have at least pieces of this if they're not all in. And the level of Catholicism varies by school, so I wouldn't count them out entirely.

yep, there's always one. so sad. teaching grammar and latin is now considered white supremacy. how sad for those that really believe that. how sad for their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.

If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.

I'm sure you are aware that classical education predates 2016 and Milo and social media. And has nothing to do with any of them.

[Anonymous]

I find it amusing that you’re more upset about the PP than the fact that these neo-Nazis have co-opted the phrase. I suppose it doesn’t actually bother you that much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey, y’all, something to know is that the sudden interest in “classical” education has nothing to do with great books or Latin. It traces back to a 2016 Identity Evropa (white nationalist group) “Don’t forget your heritage” campaign, which was tied to visuals of Greek and Roman sculpture and architecture. Folks like Milo Yiannipolous followed on; Milo even went by the handle @nero on Twitter. As well, these folks had a sudden interest in the Edward Gibbons book The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written in the 18th century. No, it’s not because a group suddenly became historically curious. Rather, they used Rome’s history to justify xenophobia and anti-immigrant rhetoric.

If OP is not aware of this, he/she now knows and can ask in more specific terms about the attributes his/her family wants in a school (small group seminars, reading the English canon, uniforms, whatever). If OP is aware of the loaded nature of “classical education,” then we should probably avoid normalizing and aiding this level of white supremacy.

There's always one that shows up with this drivel. A focus on liberal arts, classical literature, and the history of Western civilization is good, actually.

OP, most Catholic schools have at least pieces of this if they're not all in. And the level of Catholicism varies by school, so I wouldn't count them out entirely.

yep, there's always one. so sad. teaching grammar and latin is now considered white supremacy. how sad for those that really believe that. how sad for their kids.

How sad that white supremacy continues to be an issue — and how sad for kids, especially those who aren’t white — that it’s a concern when evaluating their education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it amusing that you’re more upset about the PP than the fact that these neo-Nazis have co-opted the phrase. I suppose it doesn’t actually bother you that much.

Are they really coopting it if you’re the only one who thinks that? Or are you in effect coopting it for them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it amusing that you’re more upset about the PP than the fact that these neo-Nazis have co-opted the phrase. I suppose it doesn’t actually bother you that much.

Are they really coopting it if you’re the only one who thinks that? Or are you in effect coopting it for them?

And reveling in your ignorance is a real hallmark of your classical education? Wouldn’t the right response be “wow if that’s true that would really suck and maybe I should look into it and determine if this is an issue”. Instead you just dismiss it. Clearly if it was true you don’t really care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find it amusing that you’re more upset about the PP than the fact that these neo-Nazis have co-opted the phrase. I suppose it doesn’t actually bother you that much.

Are they really coopting it if you’re the only one who thinks that? Or are you in effect coopting it for them?

And reveling in your ignorance is a real hallmark of your classical education? Wouldn’t the right response be “wow if that’s true that would really suck and maybe I should look into it and determine if this is an issue”. Instead you just dismiss it. Clearly if it was true you don’t really care.

What’s true? What exactly are you trying to claim? Because Milo blathered something about Gibbon, we all have to cancel the term “classical education”?