MoCo defunded police/school resource officers, causing a school shooting and a lawsuit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s no evidence that even if there were an SRO in the building that this incident would not have happened. In fact there is very little evidence SROs prevent school violence. But there is evidence they increase fear and increase disparities in school discipline. No SROs in MCPS. They made the right decision.

Every single principal in MCPS was in favor of SROs. Why not trust them instead of making guesses about what's best for their school?

Because probably the PP doesn't work in a school.

[Anonymous]

I mean, we can talk about whether SROs in schools are a net good or a net bad. But...

I read the article and the report. Having an SRO in that school that day would have done absolutely zero to prevent the shooting from occurring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Montgomery County should not have defunded school resource officers.

Now one student will spend most of his adult life in prison.

Worse for you, your school system has to pay out millions to defend (and likely settle) a lawsuit by the family of a shooting victim, all because of Montgomery County's foolish decision:


https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/maryland-gun-violence-former-student-sentenced-after-shooting-15-year-old-classmate-at-montgomery-county-high-school/65-5431a3f5-7a46-49f5-a421-03a66cc2578f


From that article:

" In November, the mother sued MCPS, saying the lack of school resource police officers was partially to blame for her son’s life-threatening injuries."

If you live in MoCo, demand a return to sanity, and the restoration of school resource officers immediatly.

If your county politicians are outside of MoCo, and are considering eliminating school resource officers, demand they abandon such foolish ideas.

Keep our kids safe!

Could you please provide some data and studies indicating schools with SROs are safer and have fewer students injuries?

Number of shootings on MCPS campus when SROs were there: 0
Number of shootings on MCPS campus after SROs were removed: 1

Number of shootings on MCPS campus by a student not named Steve: 0
Number of shootings on MCPS campus by a student named Steve: 1

If you live in MoCO, demand the removal of all students named Steve immediately. Keep our kids safe!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean, we can talk about whether SROs in schools are a net good or a net bad. But...

I read the article and the report. Having an SRO in that school that day would have done absolutely zero to prevent the shooting from occurring.

You do not know that.

What we do know:

SROs are a deterant, and all the kids in MCPS know the SROs were defunded/removed from schools.

This kid felt so free to run wild that he invited his friends to watch and live-stream him shooting another human being, knowing the SROs had been banned from the building by MCPS.

[Anonymous]

I am all for SROs.

The SRO at Walter Johnson HS had a student share with them sm postings of a former student with an AK rifle saying he was going to shoot up the school. They got to yhe former student before anything did go wrong.

That is NOT anecdotal, it is a fact. I will always be grateful for the SROs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, we can talk about whether SROs in schools are a net good or a net bad. But...

I read the article and the report. Having an SRO in that school that day would have done absolutely zero to prevent the shooting from occurring.

You do not know that.

What we do know:

SROs are a deterant, and all the kids in MCPS know the SROs were defunded/removed from schools.

This kid felt so free to run wild that he invited his friends to watch and live-stream him shooting another human being, knowing the SROs had been banned from the building by MCPS.

Nothing that you wrote is established fact.

Point me to a study that shows SROs are an effective deterrent?
Prove that all students are aware that there are no SROs?
And you obviously can't prove what the kid knew or felt or whether his behavior was influenced by there not being an SRO.

Circumstantial evidence, however, indicates it would have made no difference. This kid was not at all concerned with getting caught, which is all an SRO would do- make the arrest after the fact happen slightly quicker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s no evidence that even if there were an SRO in the building that this incident would not have happened. In fact there is very little evidence SROs prevent school violence. But there is evidence they increase fear and increase disparities in school discipline. No SROs in MCPS. They made the right decision.

Every single principal in MCPS was in favor of SROs. Why not trust them instead of making guesses about what's best for their school?

Just because people think something works doesn’t make it true. Of course principals wanted someone else in a building they could blame if something goes wrong. It takes the responsibility of actually making schools a safe and supportive place away….

This!

Students testified about the fact that SROs made them feel unsafe.

I don’t believe this is representative for a second. Kind of like how white leftists claim that black people don’t want policing… when in fact surveys say they do.

My DD, a straight A student and aactual Black person not raised by leftist Whites, says they made her feel unsafe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am all for SROs.

The SRO at Walter Johnson HS had a student share with them sm postings of a former student with an AK rifle saying he was going to shoot up the school. They got to yhe former student before anything did go wrong.

That is NOT anecdotal, it is a fact. I will always be grateful for the SROs.

Really?

"“Students at Walter Johnson HS brought it to the attention of the principal who then contacted police,” the court records state."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/maryland-teen-to-remain-in-jail-after-charge-that-he-threatened-school-shooting/2018/10/22/9f7618d2-d634-11e8-83a2-d1c3da28d6b6_story.html

"Students at the school brought the post to the attention of the principal, who then contacted police."
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2018/10/crisis-center-said-former-walter-johnson-student-not-a-threat-after-snapchat-post/

It is true that another WTOP article reported "Walter Johnson High School students alerted a school resource officer about Snapchat posts showing a former student holding a rifle and threatening to shoot up the school, a detective told a Montgomery County District Court judge..."


But it was not the the SRO that made the difference in that scenario. The same exact outcome would have been achieved if there had not been an SRO.

[Anonymous]

Why is MCPS at fault. The shooter is to blame. Also, is there a breakdown of what types of crime is happening at the schools and how they are being handled? I’d like to know why the police is called and then bring in the race data to see if there is an issue because if it is blacks responsible for the most serious crimes, then there really isn’t a problem.

[Anonymous]

OH PLEASE
The SRO at our W school was a pos. Literal drug pusher, hung out with certain students. Yeah no

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is MCPS at fault. The shooter is to blame. Also, is there a breakdown of what types of crime is happening at the schools and how they are being handled? I’d like to know why the police is called and then bring in the race data to see if there is an issue because if it is blacks responsible for the most serious crimes, then there really isn’t a problem.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Can you explain?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is MCPS at fault. The shooter is to blame. Also, is there a breakdown of what types of crime is happening at the schools and how they are being handled? I’d like to know why the police is called and then bring in the race data to see if there is an issue because if it is blacks responsible for the most serious crimes, then there really isn’t a problem.

The lawsuit names the school system, as the they are the ones who elimianted the SRO program entirely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s no evidence that even if there were an SRO in the building that this incident would not have happened. In fact there is very little evidence SROs prevent school violence. But there is evidence they increase fear and increase disparities in school discipline. No SROs in MCPS. They made the right decision.

Every single principal in MCPS was in favor of SROs. Why not trust them instead of making guesses about what's best for their school?

Just because people think something works doesn’t make it true. Of course principals wanted someone else in a building they could blame if something goes wrong. It takes the responsibility of actually making schools a safe and supportive place away….

This!

Students testified about the fact that SROs made them feel unsafe.

I don’t believe this is representative for a second. Kind of like how white leftists claim that black people don’t want policing… when in fact surveys say they do.

Why did she feel unsafe? Was it something the officer did, or does she not like certain types of people?


My DD, a straight A student and aactual Black person not raised by leftist Whites, says they made her feel unsafe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s no evidence that even if there were an SRO in the building that this incident would not have happened. In fact there is very little evidence SROs prevent school violence. But there is evidence they increase fear and increase disparities in school discipline. No SROs in MCPS. They made the right decision.

Every single principal in MCPS was in favor of SROs. Why not trust them instead of making guesses about what's best for their school?

Just because people think something works doesn’t make it true. Of course principals wanted someone else in a building they could blame if something goes wrong. It takes the responsibility of actually making schools a safe and supportive place away….

This!

Students testified about the fact that SROs made them feel unsafe.

I don’t believe this is representative for a second. Kind of like how white leftists claim that black people don’t want policing… when in fact surveys say they do.

My DD, a straight A student and aactual Black person not raised by leftist Whites, says they made her feel unsafe.

Why did she feel unsafe? Was it something the officer did, or does she not like certain types of people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is MCPS at fault. The shooter is to blame. Also, is there a breakdown of what types of crime is happening at the schools and how they are being handled? I’d like to know why the police is called and then bring in the race data to see if there is an issue because if it is blacks responsible for the most serious crimes, then there really isn’t a problem.

The lawsuit names the school system, as the they are the ones who elimianted the SRO program entirely.

There is no world in which the school district is responsible for negligence here.