child assaulted by another student with no history and no provocation

Anonymous
The child’s trauma is deeper than anyone realizes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A concussion is very serious, but you said it was a joke, and the kids have no history and no beef. I don’t see anything that needs to be done here. What are the parents looking for? To make sure the pusher knows it’s not a funny joke and will never do it again? That seems reasonable.


It’s this. When my son was in middle school, he said all of them would quickly run into friends and push them into lockers when they weren’t looking. It was foolish middle school behavior and they are lucky no one got hurt. If these boys are really friends then the other kid must feel terrible. If they were doing something like this, hopefully it stops the behavior and it doesn’t happen anymore. I’m not sure what else they want at this point. N
Anonymous
I can see this happening- kid knocks into an unsuspecting kid as a joke and the unsuspecting kid falls down because he had no idea. Concussions are not that hard to get. Did the pusher apologize?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What grade OP?


Middle school. I do not want to give out the family's details. Thank you.


Then why ade you posting about it?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have NO idea what happened, OP. Stop speculating based on what the boy's mom is telling you. There are always many sides to the story.


I am not asking for your advice on what I should be doing. I am asking what can parents do in a given scenario.


My suggestion would be to step back since it is not your kid, quit gossiping about it and let the parents figure it out.

Stop creating more drama.

Accidents happen, especially with stupid middle school kids.

If this was friends screwing around, the parents and kids can handle it

If it was bullying or malicious, then the parents and schools need to figure out a punishment.

At no step of the process are you a part of the solution.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A concussion is very serious, but you said it was a joke, and the kids have no history and no beef. I don’t see anything that needs to be done here. What are the parents looking for? To make sure the pusher knows it’s not a funny joke and will never do it again? That seems reasonable.


It’s this. When my son was in middle school, he said all of them would quickly run into friends and push them into lockers when they weren’t looking. It was foolish middle school behavior and they are lucky no one got hurt. If these boys are really friends then the other kid must feel terrible. If they were doing something like this, hopefully it stops the behavior and it doesn’t happen anymore. I’m not sure what else they want at this point. N


Agree that this sounds like a joke gone bad. Middle school kids are notorious for their inability to think through consequences of their actions and lack of impulse control. They think the stupidest things are funny. Kids will have consequences. Your friend will only ever know if rumors start at school. But bottom line is the victim is not a target of bullies and schools cannot prevent every stupid thoughtless act by impulsive kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have NO idea what happened, OP. Stop speculating based on what the boy's mom is telling you. There are always many sides to the story.


I am not asking for your advice on what I should be doing. I am asking what can parents do in a given scenario.


Nothing really, the other student (and their parents) will say it was an accident.


What do you think sends kids to the alternative schools in fcps?
Weapons, drugs, and assault. So yeah, something can be done.


But it also takes multiple events. Based on what the OP posted, this will go away with little no consequences.
Anonymous
Report it to the cops. Get a lawyer. Insist the school system allow you to send your child to another school. Some ideas...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Report it to the cops. Get a lawyer. Insist the school system allow you to send your child to another school. Some ideas...


Do not ruin some poor kid's life over what amounts to an accident from friends horsing around.

Wtf is wrong with you people?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have NO idea what happened, OP. Stop speculating based on what the boy's mom is telling you. There are always many sides to the story.


I am not asking for your advice on what I should be doing. I am asking what can parents do in a given scenario.


Nothing really, the other student (and their parents) will say it was an accident.


What do you think sends kids to the alternative schools in fcps?
Weapons, drugs, and assault. So yeah, something can be done.


But it also takes multiple events. Based on what the OP posted, this will go away with little no consequences.


If it is a one time thing that was meant to be a prank then the kid shouldn't be moved to an alternative school. If the kid had been bullying the victim and this was intentional, it is a different conversation to have.

DS broke his wrist playing tag at camp. The other kid tagging pushed too hard and DS sprawled weird. It was not intentional. If the kids at MS are shoving each other in some stupid game and your friends kid feel strange that sucks. I am sorry that he got a concussion and I get that he is freaked out. Does that make it an expellable offense? No. If it is something that follows a pattern of harassment, then it is a different story.
Anonymous
This is a situation where the intent means everything .

If the kid truly didn't think anyone would get hurt and feels terrible, what do you want to be done? Expelling the kid won't make anything better.

Now if the kid intended to hurt him or has no remorse, that's different.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Report it to the cops. Get a lawyer. Insist the school system allow you to send your child to another school. Some ideas...


Do not ruin some poor kid's life over what amounts to an accident from friends horsing around.

Wtf is wrong with you people?


He gave a kid a concussion… that’s serious and means it probably could have done worse.

Concussion is serious. Kid needs to at least know that parents could have gone to police. Needs to know just how serious it could have become beyond the concussion. Needs a very serious conversation.
Anonymous
They won’t show you the video by choice but they will need to show the police, and the police will write their findings in their report. I’d definitely get the police involved, they will figure out exactly what happened. And yes, if the school is being uncooperative then I’d contact a lawyer too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A concussion is very serious, but you said it was a joke, and the kids have no history and no beef. I don’t see anything that needs to be done here. What are the parents looking for? To make sure the pusher knows it’s not a funny joke and will never do it again? That seems reasonable.


Yeah, from your own description, it does not really sound like the pusher intended the pushee to fall down and get seriously hurt. The school likely won't do much if this is a good kid and they feel it was mostly an accident. I think the only option is to contact the police, but I doubt I would do that given what you say about the pusher kid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The kids is in shock, is afraid to go to school. The parents (my friend and spouse) want to ensure school takes action to prevent this from happening again.

OP are the kid and the parents-

1. afraid of the student who pushed them (and if so, what other info do they have about that student?), or
2. afraid that this type of random violence might happen in school again?
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