Has LEO priority changed from community protection to self-protection?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe if civilians didn’t have so many guns cops wouldn’t be so afraid. 🤔

+1 LEOs should be brave, but at the end of the day, going after that gunman would have been a suicidal mission. If four men had rushed him, maybe 3 would have been shot dead. Doesn’t mean that’s not their job, but we should have some empathy for the fact that these school officers are not Secret Service officers. Some may not have signed up with the idea that they need to throw their body in front of a crazed teen with 2 automatic weapons with 200 bullets. That’s a big ask.

But, you see, the Republican platform is "It's fine that assault weapons are so easily available," because our "law enforcement heroes" will protect us from "criminals."

But when yet another freak starts firing his assault weapon, what do cops do? "Establish a perimeter!"

It's hard to blame them, until you remember they're nearly all Republicans who are all about "gun owners' (including mass shooters) rights." Establish that perimeter!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband, one of those terrible cops we all must hate, risked his life to save a 16-year-old girl a few years ago. I understood why he put himself in so much danger, even though I selfishly wanted him to come home that night to our own children. You can disparage police all you want. There are many who will still stand between you and harm. I have first-hand knowledge of this.

No one thinks all police are bad. For instance the Border Control law enforcement team which IGNORED the Uvalde Chief of Police's orders and broke down the door after 90 minutes are heroes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is something. It reminds me of the fact that conservation incels are constantly posting about low-level crimes, smash & grabs, and no bail offenses. However no one talks about these mass shooters, majority teens, realizing that cops won't engage them anymore.

The Uvalde school shooter ran past multiple cops and a school resource officer to get into the school. His only protection was a locked door to the classroom and he still managed to get away with his shooting.

Cops are not willing to risk themselves for anything or anyone.

Worth reading -

Entire account - https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1529687298094379009.html

I agree with the author of this thread. If the parents agree, Show the photos. Americans need to wake up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe if civilians didn’t have so many guns cops wouldn’t be so afraid. 🤔

+1 LEOs should be brave, but at the end of the day, going after that gunman would have been a suicidal mission. If four men had rushed him, maybe 3 would have been shot dead. Doesn’t mean that’s not their job, but we should have some empathy for the fact that these school officers are not Secret Service officers. Some may not have signed up with the idea that they need to throw their body in front of a crazed teen with 2 automatic weapons with 200 bullets. That’s a big ask.

It would go a long way toward improving my outlook on the law enforcement community if they would speak out in support of sensible gun control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe if civilians didn’t have so many guns cops wouldn’t be so afraid. 🤔

+1 LEOs should be brave, but at the end of the day, going after that gunman would have been a suicidal mission. If four men had rushed him, maybe 3 would have been shot dead. Doesn’t mean that’s not their job, but we should have some empathy for the fact that these school officers are not Secret Service officers. Some may not have signed up with the idea that they need to throw their body in front of a crazed teen with 2 automatic weapons with 200 bullets. That’s a big ask.

But, you see, the Republican platform is "It's fine that assault weapons are so easily available," because our "law enforcement heroes" will protect us from "criminals."

But when yet another freak starts firing his assault weapon, what do cops do? "Establish a perimeter!"

It's hard to blame them, until you remember they're nearly all Republicans who are all about "gun owners' (including mass shooters) rights." Establish that perimeter!

Republicans say that because they can’t admit any restrictions on guns could possibly be correct. Most are hypocrites and have blood on their hands. Thoughts and prayers indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband, one of those terrible cops we all must hate, risked his life to save a 16-year-old girl a few years ago. I understood why he put himself in so much danger, even though I selfishly wanted him to come home that night to our own children. You can disparage police all you want. There are many who will still stand between you and harm. I have first-hand knowledge of this.

No one thinks all police are bad. For instance the Border Control law enforcement team which IGNORED the Uvalde Chief of Police's orders and broke down the door after 90 minutes are heroes.

Yes, there are plenty of people who think all police are bad, including some local politicians. My husband gets spit on for getting out of his car these days. He can perform his job admirably, and it will never matter to some. The “good guy” that he is, he’ll just take it. As his wife, I get angry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband, one of those terrible cops we all must hate, risked his life to save a 16-year-old girl a few years ago. I understood why he put himself in so much danger, even though I selfishly wanted him to come home that night to our own children. You can disparage police all you want. There are many who will still stand between you and harm. I have first-hand knowledge of this.

No one thinks all police are bad. For instance the Border Control law enforcement team which IGNORED the Uvalde Chief of Police's orders and broke down the door after 90 minutes are heroes.

Yes, there are plenty of people who think all police are bad, including some local politicians. My husband gets spit on for getting out of his car these days. He can perform his job admirably, and it will never matter to some. The “good guy” that he is, he’ll just take it. As his wife, I get angry.

I’m sorry to hear this PP.

What does your husband think of gun control measures?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband, one of those terrible cops we all must hate, risked his life to save a 16-year-old girl a few years ago. I understood why he put himself in so much danger, even though I selfishly wanted him to come home that night to our own children. You can disparage police all you want. There are many who will still stand between you and harm. I have first-hand knowledge of this.

No one thinks all police are bad. For instance the Border Control law enforcement team which IGNORED the Uvalde Chief of Police's orders and broke down the door after 90 minutes are heroes.

Yes, there are plenty of people who think all police are bad, including some local politicians. My husband gets spit on for getting out of his car these days. He can perform his job admirably, and it will never matter to some. The “good guy” that he is, he’ll just take it. As his wife, I get angry.

I’m sorry to hear this PP.

What does your husband think of gun control measures?

He is 100% in support of them, as is most of his shift. (Good question)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband, one of those terrible cops we all must hate, risked his life to save a 16-year-old girl a few years ago. I understood why he put himself in so much danger, even though I selfishly wanted him to come home that night to our own children. You can disparage police all you want. There are many who will still stand between you and harm. I have first-hand knowledge of this.

When LEO officers and their families start loudly advocating for gun control and supporting candidates that will enact change, I’ll start to sympathize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband, one of those terrible cops we all must hate, risked his life to save a 16-year-old girl a few years ago. I understood why he put himself in so much danger, even though I selfishly wanted him to come home that night to our own children. You can disparage police all you want. There are many who will still stand between you and harm. I have first-hand knowledge of this.

No one thinks all police are bad. For instance the Border Control law enforcement team which IGNORED the Uvalde Chief of Police's orders and broke down the door after 90 minutes are heroes.

Yes, there are plenty of people who think all police are bad, including some local politicians. My husband gets spit on for getting out of his car these days. He can perform his job admirably, and it will never matter to some. The “good guy” that he is, he’ll just take it. As his wife, I get angry.

I’m sorry to hear this PP.

What does your husband think of gun control measures?

He is 100% in support of them, as is most of his shift. (Good question)

I would love to see more cops marching with moms. This is all just so sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband, one of those terrible cops we all must hate, risked his life to save a 16-year-old girl a few years ago. I understood why he put himself in so much danger, even though I selfishly wanted him to come home that night to our own children. You can disparage police all you want. There are many who will still stand between you and harm. I have first-hand knowledge of this.

When LEO officers and their families start loudly advocating for gun control and supporting candidates that will enact change, I’ll start to sympathize.

Then start sympathizing. We’ve already been doing that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband, one of those terrible cops we all must hate, risked his life to save a 16-year-old girl a few years ago. I understood why he put himself in so much danger, even though I selfishly wanted him to come home that night to our own children. You can disparage police all you want. There are many who will still stand between you and harm. I have first-hand knowledge of this.

When LEO officers and their families start loudly advocating for gun control and supporting candidates that will enact change, I’ll start to sympathize.

Then start sympathizing. We’ve already been doing that.

Let me know when LEO’s stand beside Mom’s Demand Action in protest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband, one of those terrible cops we all must hate, risked his life to save a 16-year-old girl a few years ago. I understood why he put himself in so much danger, even though I selfishly wanted him to come home that night to our own children. You can disparage police all you want. There are many who will still stand between you and harm. I have first-hand knowledge of this.

When LEO officers and their families start loudly advocating for gun control and supporting candidates that will enact change, I’ll start to sympathize.

Then start sympathizing. We’ve already been doing that.

Let me know when LEO’s stand beside Mom’s Demand Action in protest.

Why do you think that hasn’t already happened? Officers aren’t a monolith. Many feel the same way you do about gun control. Heck, they see the effects of our crappy gun laws more than the average citizen does. The assumption that police are all gun-toting Trumpers is infuriating to me. Guess what? Some officers are EXACTLY who you would want them to be ALREADY. They are equally as enraged as you are. I’m sorry for you if you can’t accept that some officers are good people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband, one of those terrible cops we all must hate, risked his life to save a 16-year-old girl a few years ago. I understood why he put himself in so much danger, even though I selfishly wanted him to come home that night to our own children. You can disparage police all you want. There are many who will still stand between you and harm. I have first-hand knowledge of this.

When LEO officers and their families start loudly advocating for gun control and supporting candidates that will enact change, I’ll start to sympathize.

Then start sympathizing. We’ve already been doing that.

Let me know when LEO’s stand beside Mom’s Demand Action in protest.

Why do you think that hasn’t already happened? Officers aren’t a monolith. Many feel the same way you do about gun control. Heck, they see the effects of our crappy gun laws more than the average citizen does. The assumption that police are all gun-toting Trumpers is infuriating to me. Guess what? Some officers are EXACTLY who you would want them to be ALREADY. They are equally as enraged as you are. I’m sorry for you if you can’t accept that some officers are good people.

It’s not enough. I don’t want to see law enforcement crowd controlling protests.
I want to see them leading them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband, one of those terrible cops we all must hate, risked his life to save a 16-year-old girl a few years ago. I understood why he put himself in so much danger, even though I selfishly wanted him to come home that night to our own children. You can disparage police all you want. There are many who will still stand between you and harm. I have first-hand knowledge of this.

When LEO officers and their families start loudly advocating for gun control and supporting candidates that will enact change, I’ll start to sympathize.

Then start sympathizing. We’ve already been doing that.

Let me know when LEO’s stand beside Mom’s Demand Action in protest.

Why do you think that hasn’t already happened? Officers aren’t a monolith. Many feel the same way you do about gun control. Heck, they see the effects of our crappy gun laws more than the average citizen does. The assumption that police are all gun-toting Trumpers is infuriating to me. Guess what? Some officers are EXACTLY who you would want them to be ALREADY. They are equally as enraged as you are. I’m sorry for you if you can’t accept that some officers are good people.

It’s not enough. I don’t want to see law enforcement crowd controlling protests.
I want to see them leading them.

In uniform? In most jurisdictions they aren’t allowed. As private citizens? They already are. Stop fighting those who try to HELP.