Has LEO priority changed from community protection to self-protection?

[Anonymous]

This thread is something. It reminds me of the fact that conservation incels are constantly posting about low-level crimes, smash & grabs, and no bail offenses. However no one talks about these mass shooters, majority teens, realizing that cops won't engage them anymore.

The Uvalde school shooter ran past multiple cops and a school resource officer to get into the school. His only protection was a locked door to the classroom and he still managed to get away with his shooting.

Cops are not willing to risk themselves for anything or anyone.

Worth reading -

Entire account - https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1529687298094379009.html

[Anonymous]

It's been that way for a while.

[Anonymous]

Maybe if civilians didn’t have so many guns cops wouldn’t be so afraid. 🤔

[Anonymous]

This concept of self-protection is the very core of their training:

Police training starts in the academy, where the concept of officer safety is so heavily emphasized that it takes on almost religious significance. Rookie officers are taught what is widely known as the “first rule of law enforcement”: An officer’s overriding goal every day is to go home at the end of their shift.

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/12/police-gun-shooting-training-ferguson/383681/

Cops are not there to protect you. The Supreme Court even backs them up on this. It's pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is something. It reminds me of the fact that conservation incels are constantly posting about low-level crimes, smash & grabs, and no bail offenses. However no one talks about these mass shooters, majority teens, realizing that cops won't engage them anymore.

The Uvalde school shooter ran past multiple cops and a school resource officer to get into the school. His only protection was a locked door to the classroom and he still managed to get away with his shooting.

Cops are not willing to risk themselves for anything or anyone.

Worth reading -

Entire account - https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1529687298094379009.html

🤮

I literally want to vomit reading that thread. And that repeats itself over and over and over across the country. That thread has layers of relevant sht in it: the deification of cops despite the fact that not only are they human, but they tend toward cowardice just as often as regular people do. Maybe because they’re so poorly trained.* The fact that women and children are disposable in our society and that the police and GOP lawmakers reinforce this in a thousand ways. The fact that domestic abuse is an enormous predictor of gun violence (and is a throughline in all mass shootings; you can’t tell me the Uvalde shooter shooting his grandma was his first act of domestic violence because it wasn’t). The fact that Republicans are the most useless POSs and the reason, if I may use their religious framing, that we cannot have the heaven on earth that Jesus promised us was at hand if we took seriously his injunction to love one another.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56834733

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe if civilians didn’t have so many guns cops wouldn’t be so afraid. 🤔

It’s real mystery, isn’t it?

Fun story about coward cops, this time in Minneapolis. My sister was an apartment manager and someone called the cops on a mentally ill woman. As the woman with the keys, she was up in the hallway when the officers were going to enter the apartment and they told her, my untrained, non LEO sister to open the door because they were afraid the woman might have a gun. My sister handed them the keys (and witnessed them shooting the mentally ill woman). She had a knife but wasn’t coming toward them; she was having a complete break with reality and they just shot her without talking to her. (The 2nd anniversary of George Floyd’s death was yesterday, btw.)

[Anonymous]

You all wonder why people say the priorities for "policing" need to be adjusted (aka "defund the police) - it is systemic.

No, we are not saying there should be no police. But there are way too many examples of the BS.

[Anonymous]

A lot of police shooting or police inaction involve them evening fearful. Personally I don’t understand how you become a cop and be afraid of people. The Philando Castile case comes to mind the the officer claimed fear. I recently saw a video of an Asian woman being handed an eviction notice that devolved into her being shot and killed because she answers the door with a chefs knife and the cop claimed he was fearful she would hurt him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe if civilians didn’t have so many guns cops wouldn’t be so afraid. 🤔

It’s real mystery, isn’t it?

Fun story about coward cops, this time in Minneapolis. My sister was an apartment manager and someone called the cops on a mentally ill woman. As the woman with the keys, she was up in the hallway when the officers were going to enter the apartment and they told her, my untrained, non LEO sister to open the door because they were afraid the woman might have a gun. My sister handed them the keys (and witnessed them shooting the mentally ill woman). She had a knife but wasn’t coming toward them; she was having a complete break with reality and they just shot her without talking to her. (The 2nd anniversary of George Floyd’s death was yesterday, btw.)

I want wide scale disarming of the populace and the police. Guns make life here to dangerous for everyone. I don’t blame them for being terrified. We are all terrified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is something. It reminds me of the fact that conservation incels are constantly posting about low-level crimes, smash & grabs, and no bail offenses. However no one talks about these mass shooters, majority teens, realizing that cops won't engage them anymore.

The Uvalde school shooter ran past multiple cops and a school resource officer to get into the school. His only protection was a locked door to the classroom and he still managed to get away with his shooting.

Cops are not willing to risk themselves for anything or anyone.

Worth reading -

Entire account - https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1529687298094379009.html

🤮

I literally want to vomit reading that thread. And that repeats itself over and over and over across the country. That thread has layers of relevant sht in it: the deification of cops despite the fact that not only are they human, but they tend toward cowardice just as often as regular people do. Maybe because they’re so poorly trained.* The fact that women and children are disposable in our society and that the police and GOP lawmakers reinforce this in a thousand ways. The fact that domestic abuse is an enormous predictor of gun violence (and is a throughline in all mass shootings; you can’t tell me the Uvalde shooter shooting his grandma was his first act of domestic violence because it wasn’t). The fact that Republicans are the most useless POSs and the reason, if I may use their religious framing, that we cannot have the heaven on earth that Jesus promised us was at hand if we took seriously his injunction to love one another.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56834733

Defund the Police is a crappy slogan but the thinking behind it is valid. Police don’t solve crimes and they don’t stop them. But cops are good at harassing Black and brown people.

[Anonymous]

Apparently this has been going on for decades so...

[Anonymous]

My husband, one of those terrible cops we all must hate, risked his life to save a 16-year-old girl a few years ago. I understood why he put himself in so much danger, even though I selfishly wanted him to come home that night to our own children. You can disparage police all you want. There are many who will still stand between you and harm. I have first-hand knowledge of this.

[Anonymous]

Yes, it is a legal gang.

[Anonymous]

There are some good cops, but those are the ones who don't cover themselves in the law enforcement flag and actually believe in protecting their communities instead of lobbying for gun rights and Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe if civilians didn’t have so many guns cops wouldn’t be so afraid. 🤔

+1 LEOs should be brave, but at the end of the day, going after that gunman would have been a suicidal mission. If four men had rushed him, maybe 3 would have been shot dead. Doesn’t mean that’s not their job, but we should have some empathy for the fact that these school officers are not Secret Service officers. Some may not have signed up with the idea that they need to throw their body in front of a crazed teen with 2 automatic weapons with 200 bullets. That’s a big ask.