Carjacking in Alexandria, One Dead

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver has to live with knowing he took a life, so that sucks. I wonder how many times the carjackers have successfully taken cars or committed other crimes with no consequences.

How many people would this bother? I am pretty sure it would not bother me if I killed people breaking into my house or car jacking me. Is that a minority view?

My only concern would be retribution from the relatives of the person who was shot. Eye for an eye. “He was just taking her car not goin hurt her” could spur violent elements

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver has to live with knowing he took a life, so that sucks. I wonder how many times the carjackers have successfully taken cars or committed other crimes with no consequences.

How many people would this bother? I am pretty sure it would not bother me if I killed people breaking into my house or car jacking me. Is that a minority view?

My only concern would be retribution from the relatives of the person who was shot. Eye for an eye. “He was just taking her car not goin hurt her” could spur violent elements

Yeh let's shoot that guy too he's an idiot

[Anonymous]

I actually might judge the driver here. Not blaming her fir being a victim of a crime, but for instance if the carjackers we’re trying to steal the car while she was inside the gas station and she came out and shot them, I’m actually not happy with the driver for escalating that situation over insured personal property. There’s a school nearby, it’s the middle of the day— any time a gun is fired in a public place, there is danger of an innocent person being shot or traumatized.

If there was an altercation where the driver was directly involved and pulled the gun to protect herself, I feel differently.

But I’m not excited about the idea of people with concealed weapons (even if they are permitted) whipping out a gun to solve a problem where only their property is at risk. I don’t feel sorry for the carjackers, but a shooting like this is scary and I’d rather have a car stolen in my neighborhood than worry about getting caught in crossfire at my local gas station. If I have to pick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually might judge the driver here. Not blaming her fir being a victim of a crime, but for instance if the carjackers we’re trying to steal the car while she was inside the gas station and she came out and shot them, I’m actually not happy with the driver for escalating that situation over insured personal property. There’s a school nearby, it’s the middle of the day— any time a gun is fired in a public place, there is danger of an innocent person being shot or traumatized.

If there was an altercation where the driver was directly involved and pulled the gun to protect herself, I feel differently.

But I’m not excited about the idea of people with concealed weapons (even if they are permitted) whipping out a gun to solve a problem where only their property is at risk. I don’t feel sorry for the carjackers, but a shooting like this is scary and I’d rather have a car stolen in my neighborhood than worry about getting caught in crossfire at my local gas station. If I have to pick.

Is that what happened? (Came out to find car being driven away?) I agree that would be totally different but I didn’t see that in the article I read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver has to live with knowing he took a life, so that sucks. I wonder how many times the carjackers have successfully taken cars or committed other crimes with no consequences.

How many people would this bother? I am pretty sure it would not bother me if I killed people breaking into my house or car jacking me. Is that a minority view?

My only concern would be retribution from the relatives of the person who was shot. Eye for an eye. “He was just taking her car not goin hurt her” could spur violent elements

This is part of the growing vigilante justice in our communities. Other carjackers will take it as reason to make sure they are armed first, and they will be more likely to shoot anyone who puts up any resistance as well.

I happen to be pro-police, meaning pro-GOOD policing, just policing. But for those in this area who want police gone, or just reduced, what is your plan to provide safety to the community? Is this what it looks like?

[Anonymous]

We need to send in the marines and clean out the criminal areas

[Anonymous]

It was only a matter of time. Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Carjacking and violent crime is up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually might judge the driver here. Not blaming her fir being a victim of a crime, but for instance if the carjackers we’re trying to steal the car while she was inside the gas station and she came out and shot them, I’m actually not happy with the driver for escalating that situation over insured personal property. There’s a school nearby, it’s the middle of the day— any time a gun is fired in a public place, there is danger of an innocent person being shot or traumatized.

If there was an altercation where the driver was directly involved and pulled the gun to protect herself, I feel differently.

But I’m not excited about the idea of people with concealed weapons (even if they are permitted) whipping out a gun to solve a problem where only their property is at risk. I don’t feel sorry for the carjackers, but a shooting like this is scary and I’d rather have a car stolen in my neighborhood than worry about getting caught in crossfire at my local gas station. If I have to pick.

Is that what happened? (Came out to find car being driven away?) I agree that would be totally different but I didn’t see that in the article I read.

PP here and to be clear, I don’t know. The article doesn’t say one way or another. I do know that this is how most carjackings at gas stations work because it’s easier. Why force a driver out if a car when you could just take it while they are inside? I used to live in California where carjackings were fairly common and we’d get public safety instructions about this— don’t leave car unattended at pump, never leave keys in car, if you need to go inside move car to parking space and lock as normal, etc. This is why gas stations where people often pre-pay inside are more prone to carjackings. If you pay at the pump and stay with your car, it’s less likely to happen.

But no, I don’t know the details of this case. Which is why I’m not ready to say “good for her” about the driver.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually might judge the driver here. Not blaming her fir being a victim of a crime, but for instance if the carjackers we’re trying to steal the car while she was inside the gas station and she came out and shot them, I’m actually not happy with the driver for escalating that situation over insured personal property. There’s a school nearby, it’s the middle of the day— any time a gun is fired in a public place, there is danger of an innocent person being shot or traumatized.

If there was an altercation where the driver was directly involved and pulled the gun to protect herself, I feel differently.

But I’m not excited about the idea of people with concealed weapons (even if they are permitted) whipping out a gun to solve a problem where only their property is at risk. I don’t feel sorry for the carjackers, but a shooting like this is scary and I’d rather have a car stolen in my neighborhood than worry about getting caught in crossfire at my local gas station. If I have to pick.

Is that what happened? (Came out to find car being driven away?) I agree that would be totally different but I didn’t see that in the article I read.

PP here and to be clear, I don’t know. The article doesn’t say one way or another. I do know that this is how most carjackings at gas stations work because it’s easier. Why force a driver out if a car when you could just take it while they are inside? I used to live in California where carjackings were fairly common and we’d get public safety instructions about this— don’t leave car unattended at pump, never leave keys in car, if you need to go inside move car to parking space and lock as normal, etc. This is why gas stations where people often pre-pay inside are more prone to carjackings. If you pay at the pump and stay with your car, it’s less likely to happen.

But no, I don’t know the details of this case. Which is why I’m not ready to say “good for her” about the driver.

If the carjackers produced a weapon of any kind and demanded her car, they are threatening her life and good for her for responding by defending herself. One less thug to terrorize law abiding citizens and hopefully other carjackers will think twice before doing this to another woman.

Why should the vast majority of us law abiding people have to constantly shift our behavior to avoid thugs who are clearly emboldened (by lack of prosecution of such crimes, at least in DC) to do this? The solution isn't for all of us to have to constantly monitor our surroundings and change our behavior. It's to lock up these criminals for long sentences when they shove a gun in someone's face (I'm writing as someone who has a friend who was pistol whipped AFTER giving up his wallet and keys without a fight. DC's AG of course refused to prosecute b/c they were 17 and 16 years old). These thugs don't care about human life. They should be behind bars. I'm glad she defended herself. More DC residents need to apply for and get their conceal carry permits and start training how to use their firearms to protect themselves.

[Anonymous]

Hopefully this will teach the carjackers to stay in DC and out of VA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The driver has to live with knowing he took a life, so that sucks. I wonder how many times the carjackers have successfully taken cars or committed other crimes with no consequences.

It was a woman and a conceal carry permit

The NRA will love that.

[Anonymous]

A lot of unknowns with this particular case. But carjackings are on the rise. Combine that with Roe vs Wade protests and more - its going to be a long hot summer.

[Anonymous]

What’s the source that indicates it was a female shooter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually might judge the driver here. Not blaming her fir being a victim of a crime, but for instance if the carjackers we’re trying to steal the car while she was inside the gas station and she came out and shot them, I’m actually not happy with the driver for escalating that situation over insured personal property. There’s a school nearby, it’s the middle of the day— any time a gun is fired in a public place, there is danger of an innocent person being shot or traumatized.

If there was an altercation where the driver was directly involved and pulled the gun to protect herself, I feel differently.

But I’m not excited about the idea of people with concealed weapons (even if they are permitted) whipping out a gun to solve a problem where only their property is at risk. I don’t feel sorry for the carjackers, but a shooting like this is scary and I’d rather have a car stolen in my neighborhood than worry about getting caught in crossfire at my local gas station. If I have to pick.

Is that what happened? (Came out to find car being driven away?) I agree that would be totally different but I didn’t see that in the article I read.

PP here and to be clear, I don’t know. The article doesn’t say one way or another. I do know that this is how most carjackings at gas stations work because it’s easier. Why force a driver out if a car when you could just take it while they are inside? I used to live in California where carjackings were fairly common and we’d get public safety instructions about this— don’t leave car unattended at pump, never leave keys in car, if you need to go inside move car to parking space and lock as normal, etc. This is why gas stations where people often pre-pay inside are more prone to carjackings. If you pay at the pump and stay with your car, it’s less likely to happen.

But no, I don’t know the details of this case. Which is why I’m not ready to say “good for her” about the driver.

If the carjackers produced a weapon of any kind and demanded her car, they are threatening her life and good for her for responding by defending herself. One less thug to terrorize law abiding citizens and hopefully other carjackers will think twice before doing this to another woman.

Why should the vast majority of us law abiding people have to constantly shift our behavior to avoid thugs who are clearly emboldened (by lack of prosecution of such crimes, at least in DC) to do this? The solution isn't for all of us to have to constantly monitor our surroundings and change our behavior. It's to lock up these criminals for long sentences when they shove a gun in someone's face (I'm writing as someone who has a friend who was pistol whipped AFTER giving up his wallet and keys without a fight. DC's AG of course refused to prosecute b/c they were 17 and 16 years old). These thugs don't care about human life. They should be behind bars. I'm glad she defended herself. More DC residents need to apply for and get their conceal carry permits and start training how to use their firearms to protect themselves.

Racism is showing. https://www.vox.com/2016/2/1/10889138/coded-language-thug-bossy

[Anonymous]

Omg. In the article, the person called the carjacking a petty crime.

In general, the neighborhood is changing for the better, but there’s just a lot more kind of petty crime that happens, and it’s something that we have to be aware of,” said Bennett Deolaz, who lives nearby.