Not losing weight on IF

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.

This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.

Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.

Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.

This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.

Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.

Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.

So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.

This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.

Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.

Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.

So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.

Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.

This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.

Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.

Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.

So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.

Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.

Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.

This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.

Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.

Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.

So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.

Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.

Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.

I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.

This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.

Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.

Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.

So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.

Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.

Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.

I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.

So genuine question. If you take an obese person and put them in an environment where they are unable to overeat, let’s say a famine environment, would they not lose weight? But them reintroduce them to a land of plenty and they will? So is the root of obesity problem, rather simply, that our bodies haven’t had time to evolve to living in an environment free from food scarcity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.

This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.

Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.

Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.

I have a PhD and completely agree with PP. Calories in vs calories is out is the golden rule for fatloss and it is perfectly possible to keep your weight off in the long term without surgery. You just ehm..watch calories?

[Anonymous]

Give it 2 more weeks. 4 weeks is a complete menstrual cycle. If you started the diet a few days before you ovulated, your just before your period now, your body holds water before your period, then releases it the 2-3 days after you start. Men see things more abruptly because they aren’t going through multiple hormone waves each month.

[Anonymous]

IF works for me only if I also cut sugar and white flour and keep calories at about 1500. I also do some form of exercise everyday, typically 20-30 of weight training with a few runs added in. I'm 5'6, 40yo and have been able to lose 1-2 lbs a week using this system. Started at 138 (COVID weight), currently at 130 after 4 weeks of dedication, and still going. My typical weight before my youngest kid and COVID was 120, so I'm hoping to get back there by July.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.

This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.

Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.

Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.

So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.

Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.

Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.

I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.

So genuine question. If you take an obese person and put them in an environment where they are unable to overeat, let’s say a famine environment, would they not lose weight? But them reintroduce them to a land of plenty and they will? So is the root of obesity problem, rather simply, that our bodies haven’t had time to evolve to living in an environment free from food scarcity?

Yes, read about the biology of human starvation and the Minnesota starvation-rehabilitation experiment (1944-1946) long-term results.

"The current study found that removing RAGE from fat cells caused mice to gain up to 75 percent less weight during three months of high-fat feeding, despite equal amounts of food consumption and physical activity, than mice with the RAGE brake on. Transplanting fatty tissue lacking RAGE into normal mice also decreased weight gain as they were fed a high-fat diet."

"A perspective article challenges the 'energy balance model,' which says weight gain occurs because individuals consume more energy than they expend. According to the authors, 'conceptualizing obesity as a disorder of energy balance restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms underlying weight gain.' The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much. *Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases. *The energy balance model, which says weight gain is caused by consuming more energy than we expend, "restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms driving weight gain." *The carbohydrate-insulin model makes a bold claim: overeating doesn't cause obesity; the process of getting fat causes overeating. *The current obesity epidemic is due, in part, to hormonal responses to changes in food quality: in particular, high-glycemic load foods, which fundamentally change metabolism. *Focusing on what we eat rather than how much we eat is a better strategy for weight management."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110802125546.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190716113022.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210913135729.htm

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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.

This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.

Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.

Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.

So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.

Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.

Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.

I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.

So genuine question. If you take an obese person and put them in an environment where they are unable to overeat, let’s say a famine environment, would they not lose weight? But them reintroduce them to a land of plenty and they will? So is the root of obesity problem, rather simply, that our bodies haven’t had time to evolve to living in an environment free from food scarcity?

Yes, read about the biology of human starvation and the Minnesota starvation-rehabilitation experiment (1944-1946) long-term results.

"The current study found that removing RAGE from fat cells caused mice to gain up to 75 percent less weight during three months of high-fat feeding, despite equal amounts of food consumption and physical activity, than mice with the RAGE brake on. Transplanting fatty tissue lacking RAGE into normal mice also decreased weight gain as they were fed a high-fat diet."

"A perspective article challenges the 'energy balance model,' which says weight gain occurs because individuals consume more energy than they expend. According to the authors, 'conceptualizing obesity as a disorder of energy balance restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms underlying weight gain.' The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much. *Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases. *The energy balance model, which says weight gain is caused by consuming more energy than we expend, "restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms driving weight gain." *The carbohydrate-insulin model makes a bold claim: overeating doesn't cause obesity; the process of getting fat causes overeating. *The current obesity epidemic is due, in part, to hormonal responses to changes in food quality: in particular, high-glycemic load foods, which fundamentally change metabolism. *Focusing on what we eat rather than how much we eat is a better strategy for weight management."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110802125546.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190716113022.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210913135729.htm

Whenever I cut I eat whatever the hell I want, but I watch the quantities. As long as I am in a calorie deficit I AWAYS lose weight.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.

This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.

Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.

Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.

So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.

Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.

Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.

I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.

So how does one get obese in the first place? By your logic, people become obese by eating normal number of calories. Then once they are obese they start overeating.

totally makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.

This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.

Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.

Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.

So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.

Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.

Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.

I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.

So genuine question. If you take an obese person and put them in an environment where they are unable to overeat, let’s say a famine environment, would they not lose weight? But them reintroduce them to a land of plenty and they will? So is the root of obesity problem, rather simply, that our bodies haven’t had time to evolve to living in an environment free from food scarcity?

Yes, read about the biology of human starvation and the Minnesota starvation-rehabilitation experiment (1944-1946) long-term results.

"The current study found that removing RAGE from fat cells caused mice to gain up to 75 percent less weight during three months of high-fat feeding, despite equal amounts of food consumption and physical activity, than mice with the RAGE brake on. Transplanting fatty tissue lacking RAGE into normal mice also decreased weight gain as they were fed a high-fat diet."

"A perspective article challenges the 'energy balance model,' which says weight gain occurs because individuals consume more energy than they expend. According to the authors, 'conceptualizing obesity as a disorder of energy balance restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms underlying weight gain.' The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much. *Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases. *The energy balance model, which says weight gain is caused by consuming more energy than we expend, "restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms driving weight gain." *The carbohydrate-insulin model makes a bold claim: overeating doesn't cause obesity; the process of getting fat causes overeating. *The current obesity epidemic is due, in part, to hormonal responses to changes in food quality: in particular, high-glycemic load foods, which fundamentally change metabolism. *Focusing on what we eat rather than how much we eat is a better strategy for weight management."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110802125546.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190716113022.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210913135729.htm

Whenever I cut I eat whatever the hell I want, but I watch the quantities. As long as I am in a calorie deficit I AWAYS lose weight.

DP but are you obese?

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Anonymous wrote:I have been doing intermittent fasting for 2 weeks now and am confused as to why I haven’t lost any weight at all. I am doing 16:8 and not cheating on the window, and only drinking water or black coffee. My lunch is a salad with 1/4 chickpeas but otherwise no carbs, I have an apple or rx bar for a snack and dinner is a protein and non starchy vegetable. I have had no sugar, but did have one glass of wine a couple nights (within my eating window).

That is literally all I am eating. Is it odd that I have lost nothing?

Curious if most people who lose weight doing IF are also counting calories or restricting what they eat (like doing keto).

2 weeks and you are confused? Oh dear lord!

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As a woman my weight can fluctuate 2 to 4 pounds during my cycle. You may need to give it another week or two.