Not losing weight on IF

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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.


Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.





So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.


Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.


Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.


I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.


So how does one get obese in the first place? By your logic, people become obese by eating normal number of calories. Then once they are obese they start overeating.

totally makes sense.


One is born with the propensity for obesity. Most obese people have struggled with weight since early childhood. The obesity epidemic in America started in the 60s, when we didn't have the science tools of today. Thankfully or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, China is currently having an explosion in obesity and diabetes rates, including in young people and children. Some ideas that are floating around are the Great Chinese Famine and its impact on the offsprings in combination with the introduction of the Westernized diet.
Again, this disease is not about calories. Austria has almost identical food energy intake and Austrians exercise less than Americans, however their obesity rate is 20%. Ours is 35%. By your definition, we should be thinner as a country because we eat the same calories and we exercise more.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.


Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.





So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.


Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.


Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.


I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.


So how does one get obese in the first place? By your logic, people become obese by eating normal number of calories. Then once they are obese they start overeating.

totally makes sense.


I got obese by eating too much, but also because I have PCOS and insulin resistance and so spent my whole life as a fat kid who could never lose a pound but easily gain. So all I could hope for was to not gain more. And slowly over the course of many years, adding 2-5 pounds a year added way up. IF got my insulin under control and allowed me to LOSE weight for the first time in my life.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.


Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.





So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.


Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.


Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.


I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.


So genuine question. If you take an obese person and put them in an environment where they are unable to overeat, let’s say a famine environment, would they not lose weight? But them reintroduce them to a land of plenty and they will? So is the root of obesity problem, rather simply, that our bodies haven’t had time to evolve to living in an environment free from food scarcity?


Yes, read about the biology of human starvation and the Minnesota starvation-rehabilitation experiment (1944-1946) long-term results.

"The current study found that removing RAGE from fat cells caused mice to gain up to 75 percent less weight during three months of high-fat feeding, despite equal amounts of food consumption and physical activity, than mice with the RAGE brake on. Transplanting fatty tissue lacking RAGE into normal mice also decreased weight gain as they were fed a high-fat diet."

"A perspective article challenges the 'energy balance model,' which says weight gain occurs because individuals consume more energy than they expend. According to the authors, 'conceptualizing obesity as a disorder of energy balance restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms underlying weight gain.' The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much. *Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases. *The energy balance model, which says weight gain is caused by consuming more energy than we expend, "restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms driving weight gain." *The carbohydrate-insulin model makes a bold claim: overeating doesn't cause obesity; the process of getting fat causes overeating. *The current obesity epidemic is due, in part, to hormonal responses to changes in food quality: in particular, high-glycemic load foods, which fundamentally change metabolism. *Focusing on what we eat rather than how much we eat is a better strategy for weight management."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110802125546.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190716113022.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210913135729.htm


Whenever I cut I eat whatever the hell I want, but I watch the quantities. As long as I am in a calorie deficit I AWAYS lose weight.


DP but are you obese?


No the above posted but even on my 600lbs life when the people are put on a reduced calorie diet they lose weight. Their obesity is not preventing them from losing weight.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.


Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.





So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.


Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.


Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.


I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.


So genuine question. If you take an obese person and put them in an environment where they are unable to overeat, let’s say a famine environment, would they not lose weight? But them reintroduce them to a land of plenty and they will? So is the root of obesity problem, rather simply, that our bodies haven’t had time to evolve to living in an environment free from food scarcity?


Yes, read about the biology of human starvation and the Minnesota starvation-rehabilitation experiment (1944-1946) long-term results.

"The current study found that removing RAGE from fat cells caused mice to gain up to 75 percent less weight during three months of high-fat feeding, despite equal amounts of food consumption and physical activity, than mice with the RAGE brake on. Transplanting fatty tissue lacking RAGE into normal mice also decreased weight gain as they were fed a high-fat diet."

"A perspective article challenges the 'energy balance model,' which says weight gain occurs because individuals consume more energy than they expend. According to the authors, 'conceptualizing obesity as a disorder of energy balance restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms underlying weight gain.' The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much. *Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases. *The energy balance model, which says weight gain is caused by consuming more energy than we expend, "restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms driving weight gain." *The carbohydrate-insulin model makes a bold claim: overeating doesn't cause obesity; the process of getting fat causes overeating. *The current obesity epidemic is due, in part, to hormonal responses to changes in food quality: in particular, high-glycemic load foods, which fundamentally change metabolism. *Focusing on what we eat rather than how much we eat is a better strategy for weight management."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110802125546.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190716113022.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210913135729.htm


Whenever I cut I eat whatever the hell I want, but I watch the quantities. As long as I am in a calorie deficit I AWAYS lose weight.


DP but are you obese?


No the above posted but even on my 600lbs life when the people are put on a reduced calorie diet they lose weight. Their obesity is not preventing them from losing weight.


Well if you saw it on TLC it must refute all known science on metabolic disorders. Plus the endocrinologist PP is talking about *keeping weight off*, not crash dieting to qualify for a surgery. You're just arguing because you need it to be true that obese people did it to themselves and deserve your contempt because it would be very simple for them to reverse their obesity. Take it from you, a person who has never experienced what they're going through and refuses to learn how it works! It's important to your view of the world, facts and reality be damned.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.


Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.





So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.


Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.


Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.


I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.


So how does one get obese in the first place? By your logic, people become obese by eating normal number of calories. Then once they are obese they start overeating.

totally makes sense.


One is born with the propensity for obesity. Most obese people have struggled with weight since early childhood. The obesity epidemic in America started in the 60s, when we didn't have the science tools of today. Thankfully or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, China is currently having an explosion in obesity and diabetes rates, including in young people and children. Some ideas that are floating around are the Great Chinese Famine and its impact on the offsprings in combination with the introduction of the Westernized diet.
Again, this disease is not about calories. Austria has almost identical food energy intake and Austrians exercise less than Americans, however their obesity rate is 20%. Ours is 35%. By your definition, we should be thinner as a country because we eat the same calories and we exercise more.


I find this hard to believe. American's are not very active. Europeans tend to live much more active lifestyles.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.


Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.





So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.


Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.


Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.


I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.


So genuine question. If you take an obese person and put them in an environment where they are unable to overeat, let’s say a famine environment, would they not lose weight? But them reintroduce them to a land of plenty and they will? So is the root of obesity problem, rather simply, that our bodies haven’t had time to evolve to living in an environment free from food scarcity?


Yes, read about the biology of human starvation and the Minnesota starvation-rehabilitation experiment (1944-1946) long-term results.

"The current study found that removing RAGE from fat cells caused mice to gain up to 75 percent less weight during three months of high-fat feeding, despite equal amounts of food consumption and physical activity, than mice with the RAGE brake on. Transplanting fatty tissue lacking RAGE into normal mice also decreased weight gain as they were fed a high-fat diet."

"A perspective article challenges the 'energy balance model,' which says weight gain occurs because individuals consume more energy than they expend. According to the authors, 'conceptualizing obesity as a disorder of energy balance restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms underlying weight gain.' The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much. *Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases. *The energy balance model, which says weight gain is caused by consuming more energy than we expend, "restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms driving weight gain." *The carbohydrate-insulin model makes a bold claim: overeating doesn't cause obesity; the process of getting fat causes overeating. *The current obesity epidemic is due, in part, to hormonal responses to changes in food quality: in particular, high-glycemic load foods, which fundamentally change metabolism. *Focusing on what we eat rather than how much we eat is a better strategy for weight management."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110802125546.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190716113022.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210913135729.htm


Whenever I cut I eat whatever the hell I want, but I watch the quantities. As long as I am in a calorie deficit I AWAYS lose weight.


DP but are you obese?


No the above posted but even on my 600lbs life when the people are put on a reduced calorie diet they lose weight. Their obesity is not preventing them from losing weight.


Well if you saw it on TLC it must refute all known science on metabolic disorders. Plus the endocrinologist PP is talking about *keeping weight off*, not crash dieting to qualify for a surgery. You're just arguing because you need it to be true that obese people did it to themselves and deserve your contempt because it would be very simple for them to reverse their obesity. Take it from you, a person who has never experienced what they're going through and refuses to learn how it works! It's important to your view of the world, facts and reality be damned.


They don't keep it off because they go back to eating crap and sh*t ton of calories. Most of the people on my 600lb life had some sort of trauma in their lives that lead them to eating their emotions and become obese.

There are plenty of people who lose weigh trough diet and exercise and keep it off. I know it is easier to believe weight is out of your control, but it's not.
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Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.


Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.





So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.


Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.


Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.


I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.


So how does one get obese in the first place? By your logic, people become obese by eating normal number of calories. Then once they are obese they start overeating.

totally makes sense.


One is born with the propensity for obesity. Most obese people have struggled with weight since early childhood. The obesity epidemic in America started in the 60s, when we didn't have the science tools of today. Thankfully or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, China is currently having an explosion in obesity and diabetes rates, including in young people and children. Some ideas that are floating around are the Great Chinese Famine and its impact on the offsprings in combination with the introduction of the Westernized diet.
Again, this disease is not about calories. Austria has almost identical food energy intake and Austrians exercise less than Americans, however their obesity rate is 20%. Ours is 35%. By your definition, we should be thinner as a country because we eat the same calories and we exercise more.


I find this hard to believe. American's are not very active. Europeans tend to live much more active lifestyles.


You would be surprised by how much Americans exercise - we have data from the gyms with frequency and amount of time. Over 53% of Americans meet or exceed the recommended guidelines. You'd also be surprised by how little European do. Same with Japan, which has significantly lower rates of obesity. We're European and my mom is always shocked to see so many people running here.
I'm a strong believer in the hypothesis that the food quality in America, food ingredients in particular, the constant eating / snacking, and the preexisting conditions caused by intrauterine conditions are strong determinants of obesity.
The jury is still out on the adverse life events, like trauma. We know that there is a positive association between obesity and mental diseases, but it's not as easy to understand the relation. For example, my father had a traumatic childhood with long periods of food scarcity. As expected, he's always been obsessed with food and its availability and he definitely overeats and indulges too much in alcohol, although not to the point of having substance abuse issues. He's in his 80s and very thin, with no signs of metabolic disease.
The PP with PCOS had no chance. 80% of women with PCOS are overweight and she didn't do anything to get PCOS.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.


Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.





So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.


Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.


Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.


I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.


So genuine question. If you take an obese person and put them in an environment where they are unable to overeat, let’s say a famine environment, would they not lose weight? But them reintroduce them to a land of plenty and they will? So is the root of obesity problem, rather simply, that our bodies haven’t had time to evolve to living in an environment free from food scarcity?


Yes, read about the biology of human starvation and the Minnesota starvation-rehabilitation experiment (1944-1946) long-term results.

"The current study found that removing RAGE from fat cells caused mice to gain up to 75 percent less weight during three months of high-fat feeding, despite equal amounts of food consumption and physical activity, than mice with the RAGE brake on. Transplanting fatty tissue lacking RAGE into normal mice also decreased weight gain as they were fed a high-fat diet."

"A perspective article challenges the 'energy balance model,' which says weight gain occurs because individuals consume more energy than they expend. According to the authors, 'conceptualizing obesity as a disorder of energy balance restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms underlying weight gain.' The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much. *Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases. *The energy balance model, which says weight gain is caused by consuming more energy than we expend, "restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms driving weight gain." *The carbohydrate-insulin model makes a bold claim: overeating doesn't cause obesity; the process of getting fat causes overeating. *The current obesity epidemic is due, in part, to hormonal responses to changes in food quality: in particular, high-glycemic load foods, which fundamentally change metabolism. *Focusing on what we eat rather than how much we eat is a better strategy for weight management."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110802125546.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190716113022.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210913135729.htm


Whenever I cut I eat whatever the hell I want, but I watch the quantities. As long as I am in a calorie deficit I AWAYS lose weight.


DP but are you obese?


No the above posted but even on my 600lbs life when the people are put on a reduced calorie diet they lose weight. Their obesity is not preventing them from losing weight.


Well if you saw it on TLC it must refute all known science on metabolic disorders. Plus the endocrinologist PP is talking about *keeping weight off*, not crash dieting to qualify for a surgery. You're just arguing because you need it to be true that obese people did it to themselves and deserve your contempt because it would be very simple for them to reverse their obesity. Take it from you, a person who has never experienced what they're going through and refuses to learn how it works! It's important to your view of the world, facts and reality be damned.


They don't keep it off because they go back to eating crap and sh*t ton of calories. Most of the people on my 600lb life had some sort of trauma in their lives that lead them to eating their emotions and become obese.

There are plenty of people who lose weigh trough diet and exercise and keep it off. I know it is easier to believe weight is out of your control, but it's not.


It is statistically next to impossible to keep large amounts of weight off long term without surgery. The data has shown this over and over again.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.


Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.





So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.


Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.


Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.


I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.


So genuine question. If you take an obese person and put them in an environment where they are unable to overeat, let’s say a famine environment, would they not lose weight? But them reintroduce them to a land of plenty and they will? So is the root of obesity problem, rather simply, that our bodies haven’t had time to evolve to living in an environment free from food scarcity?


Yes, read about the biology of human starvation and the Minnesota starvation-rehabilitation experiment (1944-1946) long-term results.

"The current study found that removing RAGE from fat cells caused mice to gain up to 75 percent less weight during three months of high-fat feeding, despite equal amounts of food consumption and physical activity, than mice with the RAGE brake on. Transplanting fatty tissue lacking RAGE into normal mice also decreased weight gain as they were fed a high-fat diet."

"A perspective article challenges the 'energy balance model,' which says weight gain occurs because individuals consume more energy than they expend. According to the authors, 'conceptualizing obesity as a disorder of energy balance restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms underlying weight gain.' The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much. *Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases. *The energy balance model, which says weight gain is caused by consuming more energy than we expend, "restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms driving weight gain." *The carbohydrate-insulin model makes a bold claim: overeating doesn't cause obesity; the process of getting fat causes overeating. *The current obesity epidemic is due, in part, to hormonal responses to changes in food quality: in particular, high-glycemic load foods, which fundamentally change metabolism. *Focusing on what we eat rather than how much we eat is a better strategy for weight management."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110802125546.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190716113022.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210913135729.htm


Whenever I cut I eat whatever the hell I want, but I watch the quantities. As long as I am in a calorie deficit I AWAYS lose weight.


DP but are you obese?


No the above posted but even on my 600lbs life when the people are put on a reduced calorie diet they lose weight. Their obesity is not preventing them from losing weight.


Well if you saw it on TLC it must refute all known science on metabolic disorders. Plus the endocrinologist PP is talking about *keeping weight off*, not crash dieting to qualify for a surgery. You're just arguing because you need it to be true that obese people did it to themselves and deserve your contempt because it would be very simple for them to reverse their obesity. Take it from you, a person who has never experienced what they're going through and refuses to learn how it works! It's important to your view of the world, facts and reality be damned.


They don't keep it off because they go back to eating crap and sh*t ton of calories. Most of the people on my 600lb life had some sort of trauma in their lives that lead them to eating their emotions and become obese.

There are plenty of people who lose weigh trough diet and exercise and keep it off. I know it is easier to believe weight is out of your control, but it's not.


It is statistically next to impossible to keep large amounts of weight off long term without surgery. The data has shown this over and over again.


Even with surgery! I don’t know a whole lot of people who’ve undergone some form of weight loss surgery, but I would estimate 50% gained a significant amount back, long term. The rest gained some back from their lowest post surgery but have not gone back to pre surgery weight.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.


Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.





So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.


Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.


Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.


I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.


So genuine question. If you take an obese person and put them in an environment where they are unable to overeat, let’s say a famine environment, would they not lose weight? But them reintroduce them to a land of plenty and they will? So is the root of obesity problem, rather simply, that our bodies haven’t had time to evolve to living in an environment free from food scarcity?


Yes, read about the biology of human starvation and the Minnesota starvation-rehabilitation experiment (1944-1946) long-term results.

"The current study found that removing RAGE from fat cells caused mice to gain up to 75 percent less weight during three months of high-fat feeding, despite equal amounts of food consumption and physical activity, than mice with the RAGE brake on. Transplanting fatty tissue lacking RAGE into normal mice also decreased weight gain as they were fed a high-fat diet."

"A perspective article challenges the 'energy balance model,' which says weight gain occurs because individuals consume more energy than they expend. According to the authors, 'conceptualizing obesity as a disorder of energy balance restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms underlying weight gain.' The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much. *Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases. *The energy balance model, which says weight gain is caused by consuming more energy than we expend, "restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms driving weight gain." *The carbohydrate-insulin model makes a bold claim: overeating doesn't cause obesity; the process of getting fat causes overeating. *The current obesity epidemic is due, in part, to hormonal responses to changes in food quality: in particular, high-glycemic load foods, which fundamentally change metabolism. *Focusing on what we eat rather than how much we eat is a better strategy for weight management."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110802125546.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190716113022.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210913135729.htm


Whenever I cut I eat whatever the hell I want, but I watch the quantities. As long as I am in a calorie deficit I AWAYS lose weight.


DP but are you obese?


No the above posted but even on my 600lbs life when the people are put on a reduced calorie diet they lose weight. Their obesity is not preventing them from losing weight.


Well if you saw it on TLC it must refute all known science on metabolic disorders. Plus the endocrinologist PP is talking about *keeping weight off*, not crash dieting to qualify for a surgery. You're just arguing because you need it to be true that obese people did it to themselves and deserve your contempt because it would be very simple for them to reverse their obesity. Take it from you, a person who has never experienced what they're going through and refuses to learn how it works! It's important to your view of the world, facts and reality be damned.


They don't keep it off because they go back to eating crap and sh*t ton of calories. Most of the people on my 600lb life had some sort of trauma in their lives that lead them to eating their emotions and become obese.

There are plenty of people who lose weigh trough diet and exercise and keep it off. I know it is easier to believe weight is out of your control, but it's not.


It is statistically next to impossible to keep large amounts of weight off long term without surgery. The data has shown this over and over again.


Even with surgery! I don’t know a whole lot of people who’ve undergone some form of weight loss surgery, but I would estimate 50% gained a significant amount back, long term. The rest gained some back from their lowest post surgery but have not gone back to pre surgery weight.


This is because they haven’t made and lifestyle charges. If I reduce your stomach size but you continue to eat past the point of feeling full you still eventually stretch your stomach and consume too many calories.

But people don’t want to make lifestyle changes or address the reason behind what drives turn to overeat in the first place.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.


Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.





So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.


Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.


Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.


I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.


So genuine question. If you take an obese person and put them in an environment where they are unable to overeat, let’s say a famine environment, would they not lose weight? But them reintroduce them to a land of plenty and they will? So is the root of obesity problem, rather simply, that our bodies haven’t had time to evolve to living in an environment free from food scarcity?


Yes, read about the biology of human starvation and the Minnesota starvation-rehabilitation experiment (1944-1946) long-term results.

"The current study found that removing RAGE from fat cells caused mice to gain up to 75 percent less weight during three months of high-fat feeding, despite equal amounts of food consumption and physical activity, than mice with the RAGE brake on. Transplanting fatty tissue lacking RAGE into normal mice also decreased weight gain as they were fed a high-fat diet."

"A perspective article challenges the 'energy balance model,' which says weight gain occurs because individuals consume more energy than they expend. According to the authors, 'conceptualizing obesity as a disorder of energy balance restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms underlying weight gain.' The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much. *Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases. *The energy balance model, which says weight gain is caused by consuming more energy than we expend, "restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms driving weight gain." *The carbohydrate-insulin model makes a bold claim: overeating doesn't cause obesity; the process of getting fat causes overeating. *The current obesity epidemic is due, in part, to hormonal responses to changes in food quality: in particular, high-glycemic load foods, which fundamentally change metabolism. *Focusing on what we eat rather than how much we eat is a better strategy for weight management."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110802125546.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190716113022.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210913135729.htm


Whenever I cut I eat whatever the hell I want, but I watch the quantities. As long as I am in a calorie deficit I AWAYS lose weight.


DP but are you obese?


No the above posted but even on my 600lbs life when the people are put on a reduced calorie diet they lose weight. Their obesity is not preventing them from losing weight.


Well if you saw it on TLC it must refute all known science on metabolic disorders. Plus the endocrinologist PP is talking about *keeping weight off*, not crash dieting to qualify for a surgery. You're just arguing because you need it to be true that obese people did it to themselves and deserve your contempt because it would be very simple for them to reverse their obesity. Take it from you, a person who has never experienced what they're going through and refuses to learn how it works! It's important to your view of the world, facts and reality be damned.


They don't keep it off because they go back to eating crap and sh*t ton of calories. Most of the people on my 600lb life had some sort of trauma in their lives that lead them to eating their emotions and become obese.

There are plenty of people who lose weigh trough diet and exercise and keep it off. I know it is easier to believe weight is out of your control, but it's not.


It is statistically next to impossible to keep large amounts of weight off long term without surgery. The data has shown this over and over again.


Even with surgery! I don’t know a whole lot of people who’ve undergone some form of weight loss surgery, but I would estimate 50% gained a significant amount back, long term. The rest gained some back from their lowest post surgery but have not gone back to pre surgery weight.


This is because they haven’t made and lifestyle charges. If I reduce your stomach size but you continue to eat past the point of feeling full you still eventually stretch your stomach and consume too many calories.

But people don’t want to make lifestyle changes or address the reason behind what drives turn to overeat in the first place.


Look, if it was as simple as making lifestyle changes no one would be obese.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.



This is totally incorrect. What experience do you have to back this up? I’ve been IF and eating clean for a year. I dropped 20 pounds. I weigh 125 pounds. Sugar is poison. 1500 calories of donuts everyday will result in fat, bloating, and weight gain. Are you saying you eat 2000 of junk on the regular? What do you weigh? What size are you??
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.



This is totally incorrect. What experience do you have to back this up? I’ve been IF and eating clean for a year. I dropped 20 pounds. I weigh 125 pounds. Sugar is poison. 1500 calories of donuts everyday will result in fat, bloating, and weight gain. Are you saying you eat 2000 of junk on the regular? What do you weigh? What size are you??
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If you burn more than 1500 cal you will lose weight even if it’s all donuts. a guy lost weight eating only twinkies for a month.
Not saying you’ll feel good or full on 1500 cal of junk but you could still lose weight. I’ve known plenty of thin people who eat junk.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.


Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.


Another idiot with HS education. Talk to an endocrinologist and read Keys, Brozek, Henschel, Mickelsen, & Taylor, 1950; Maclean, Bergouignan, Cornier, & Jackman, 2011; Doucet, St-Pierre, Alméras, & Tremblay, 2003; Camps, Verhoef, & Westerterp, 2013; DeLany, Kelley, Hames, Jakicic, & Goodpaster, 2014.

The only proven way to reduce body mass and keep it off is surgery, because it is the only method that doesn't reduce the metabolic rate. It's also the only method that showed long lasting (up to 25 years) of consistent weight management. Ozempic is still too new to assess the effectiveness.





So then what does science say about people who have lost weight and kept it off without surgery? Because may have.
You just showed how uneducated you really are.

And of course metabolic rate changes when you lose weight. Someone who weights 120 lbs doesn't need the same number of calories to maintain that weight as someone who weights 200lbs. And people can't expect that when the lose weight they will have the same caloric needs to maintain that weight as when they were 50lbs heavier? Heck even with surgery (assuming you mean gastric bypass vs cutting off a limb which will also result in permeant weight loss ) people still regain weight if they continue to eat past the point of feeling full and thus consume too many calories.


Are you an endocrinologist or working in data science for biomed? If not, STFU. You brought zero analysis or research to the table. I'm 5'7, 130 lbs. and idiots like you make my job so much harder. My basal metabolic rate(BMR) is much more efficient compared to the one of an obese person; my thermic effect of glucose (TE) is perfect. We don't know all the factors that impact the BMR; we are looking into the TUG cleavage pathway stability in obese people. So far, we know that Roux-en-Y gastric bypass surgery increases the TE.
So, if you struggle with obesity, please don't listen to the idiots saying that obesity is about calories in / calories out. Obesity is a DISEASE of a dysregulated lipid metabolism and adipokine secretion. If your mother was overweight and/or had metabolic abnormalities, you were doomed since you were a neonate. Your disease was programmed from the intrauterine environment.


Wow. This is such terrible advice I don’t even know what to say. But since I’m not an endocrinologist, apparently the only possible type of person who can speak on obesity, I guess I shouldn’t anyway.

If you want to believe this, have at it. The rest of us know we are actually much more in control of our lives than the above BS would indicate.


I'm not giving any advice. Above there's medical, scientific research, not BS. The Canadians are ahead of us; they are treating obesity as the main driver of overeating. In essence, overeating will not make one obese. However, an obese person will overeat because of faulty, imbalanced processes.


So genuine question. If you take an obese person and put them in an environment where they are unable to overeat, let’s say a famine environment, would they not lose weight? But them reintroduce them to a land of plenty and they will? So is the root of obesity problem, rather simply, that our bodies haven’t had time to evolve to living in an environment free from food scarcity?


Yes, read about the biology of human starvation and the Minnesota starvation-rehabilitation experiment (1944-1946) long-term results.

"The current study found that removing RAGE from fat cells caused mice to gain up to 75 percent less weight during three months of high-fat feeding, despite equal amounts of food consumption and physical activity, than mice with the RAGE brake on. Transplanting fatty tissue lacking RAGE into normal mice also decreased weight gain as they were fed a high-fat diet."

"A perspective article challenges the 'energy balance model,' which says weight gain occurs because individuals consume more energy than they expend. According to the authors, 'conceptualizing obesity as a disorder of energy balance restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms underlying weight gain.' The authors argue for the 'carbohydrate insulin model,' which explains obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much. *Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases. *The energy balance model, which says weight gain is caused by consuming more energy than we expend, "restates a principle of physics without considering the biological mechanisms driving weight gain." *The carbohydrate-insulin model makes a bold claim: overeating doesn't cause obesity; the process of getting fat causes overeating. *The current obesity epidemic is due, in part, to hormonal responses to changes in food quality: in particular, high-glycemic load foods, which fundamentally change metabolism. *Focusing on what we eat rather than how much we eat is a better strategy for weight management."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110802125546.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190716113022.htm

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/210913135729.htm


Whenever I cut I eat whatever the hell I want, but I watch the quantities. As long as I am in a calorie deficit I AWAYS lose weight.


DP but are you obese?


No the above posted but even on my 600lbs life when the people are put on a reduced calorie diet they lose weight. Their obesity is not preventing them from losing weight.


Well if you saw it on TLC it must refute all known science on metabolic disorders. Plus the endocrinologist PP is talking about *keeping weight off*, not crash dieting to qualify for a surgery. You're just arguing because you need it to be true that obese people did it to themselves and deserve your contempt because it would be very simple for them to reverse their obesity. Take it from you, a person who has never experienced what they're going through and refuses to learn how it works! It's important to your view of the world, facts and reality be damned.


They don't keep it off because they go back to eating crap and sh*t ton of calories. Most of the people on my 600lb life had some sort of trauma in their lives that lead them to eating their emotions and become obese.

There are plenty of people who lose weigh trough diet and exercise and keep it off. I know it is easier to believe weight is out of your control, but it's not.


It is statistically next to impossible to keep large amounts of weight off long term without surgery. The data has shown this over and over again.


Even with surgery! I don’t know a whole lot of people who’ve undergone some form of weight loss surgery, but I would estimate 50% gained a significant amount back, long term. The rest gained some back from their lowest post surgery but have not gone back to pre surgery weight.


This is because they haven’t made and lifestyle charges. If I reduce your stomach size but you continue to eat past the point of feeling full you still eventually stretch your stomach and consume too many calories.

But people don’t want to make lifestyle changes or address the reason behind what drives turn to overeat in the first place.


Look, if it was as simple as making lifestyle changes no one would be obese.


How do you figure this? It is incredibly difficult to change habits and overhaul your lifestyle. Not impossible as there are people who lose weight and keep it off, but most people lose weight and then go back to their previous bad habits and gain it back. If they kept up their diet and exercise that would not gain the weight back.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow the advice here is terrible...only eat one meal, you need to eat more....blah blah blah.

Op how much do you currently weigh?, what is your goal weight? how many calories are you eating?

IF is not magic. just a way to reduce hunger and thus calories consumed. Eating 1500 cal in an 8 hr window is the same as eating them in a 12 hr window. I would track calories to make sure are really in a deficit.

another question is how often are you weighting yourself? Weight fluctuates and if you only weight yourself once a week it can be hard to tell if you have lost weight in a week. Instead track it daily and see if over the month the line is trending downward. The happy scale app also works for this purpose.


This is WRONG. You clearly don’t understand how IF works.
OP, give it two months, it’s only been two weeks. Stay the course, have patience and report back. If you stay with it, and don’t eat junk during your eating window you WILL see results.



“I know a guy”……….

Why can't she eat junk? I thought calories didn't matter with IF?

You clearly don't understand how fat loss works.

If you are not losing weight you are eating too many calories. PERIOD.



This is totally incorrect. What experience do you have to back this up? I’ve been IF and eating clean for a year. I dropped 20 pounds. I weigh 125 pounds. Sugar is poison. 1500 calories of donuts everyday will result in fat, bloating, and weight gain. Are you saying you eat 2000 of junk on the regular? What do you weigh? What size are you??
.

If you burn more than 1500 cal you will lose weight even if it’s all donuts. a guy lost weight eating only twinkies for a month.
Not saying you’ll feel good or full on 1500 cal of junk but you could still lose weight. I’ve known plenty of thin people who eat junk.
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