Biden's VP?

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Anonymous wrote:Michelle Obama would be a lousy choice. She would be toxic to many voters, much like Hillary. Need someone fresh.


You could not be more wrong.

With Michelle on the ticket, Biden would win in a landslide.


Please drop it, she said on her Becoming tour she has zero interest in seeking elected office. She's been through enough.


I agree with both statements.

She's not going to do it.

But it she did, Biden would win in a landslide.

At this point, I'm torn about this. I'm glad he waited to pick someone because it looked like it was going to be Klobuchar. Now, I'm thinking Stacey Abrams.


I don't know why you're pushing two unqualified women as VP nominees but the attempt is transparent.

It'll be Harris or Warren. I would support either but I prefer Kamala Harris because she's smart, highly qualified, brings California/the West Coast, and she knows her jurisprudence - all background qualities we need right now.

Just as Biden boosted Obama's foreign policy credentials, Harris can boost Biden's legal know-how as we get this country back on track after four years of clear political malfeasance.
Anonymous
Yes, Harris is strong on jurisprudence, and would be a fine AG. I agree it's questionable whether Biden would trust her, and her debate performances were weak on policy. Less than a term in the Senate does not make her highly qualified to be VP, who needs to be able to consult competent lawyers not be one.

Duckworth is qualified. 5 years in the House, 3 in the Senate, plus her military experience. Moderate pragmatist who will appeal to the middle of the country and beyond. She communicates clearly and plainly, and does not bend with the wind like Harris did during her mess of a campaign.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, Harris is strong on jurisprudence, and would be a fine AG. I agree it's questionable whether Biden would trust her, and her debate performances were weak on policy. Less than a term in the Senate does not make her highly qualified to be VP, who needs to be able to consult competent lawyers not be one.

Duckworth is qualified. 5 years in the House, 3 in the Senate, plus her military experience. Moderate pragmatist who will appeal to the middle of the country and beyond. She communicates clearly and plainly, and does not bend with the wind like Harris did during her mess of a campaign.


Isn’t that the same thing that was said about a man named Barack Obama who was only a ‘junior Senator’?

He turned out to be one of the finest presidents of the past 50 years.

No one’s racing into the streets to vote for Duckworth.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Yes, Harris is strong on jurisprudence, and would be a fine AG. I agree it's questionable whether Biden would trust her, and her debate performances were weak on policy. Less than a term in the Senate does not make her highly qualified to be VP, who needs to be able to consult competent lawyers not be one.

Duckworth is qualified. 5 years in the House, 3 in the Senate, plus her military experience. Moderate pragmatist who will appeal to the middle of the country and beyond. She communicates clearly and plainly, and does not bend with the wind like Harris did during her mess of a campaign.


Isn’t that the same thing that was said about a man named Barack Obama who was only a ‘junior Senator’?

He turned out to be one of the finest presidents of the past 50 years.

No one’s racing into the streets to vote for Duckworth.


Yes, but he had both an academic and community service background, an elite educational pedigree, and his brilliance was evident in the debates while she was a poorly spoken mess on anything related to serious policy. I still have no idea what she actually believes and she now touts BLM but refuses to address criticisms of her own prosecutorial record. Duckworth on the other hand wrote legislation to address policy brutality three years ago.

I believe people will rush to vote for a Biden/Duckworth ticket--you vastly underestimate the respect Americans have for military who made great personal sacrifices. Harris has higher negatives and is perceived as an opportunist, and was never especially popular in the Black community. Only coastal Dems will rush to vote for her, and that's not what Biden needs.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, Harris is strong on jurisprudence, and would be a fine AG. I agree it's questionable whether Biden would trust her, and her debate performances were weak on policy. Less than a term in the Senate does not make her highly qualified to be VP, who needs to be able to consult competent lawyers not be one.

Duckworth is qualified. 5 years in the House, 3 in the Senate, plus her military experience. Moderate pragmatist who will appeal to the middle of the country and beyond. She communicates clearly and plainly, and does not bend with the wind like Harris did during her mess of a campaign.


Isn’t that the same thing that was said about a man named Barack Obama who was only a ‘junior Senator’?

He turned out to be one of the finest presidents of the past 50 years.

No one’s racing into the streets to vote for Duckworth.


Yes, but he had both an academic and community service background, an elite educational pedigree, and his brilliance was evident in the debates while she was a poorly spoken mess on anything related to serious policy. I still have no idea what she actually believes and she now touts BLM but refuses to address criticisms of her own prosecutorial record. Duckworth on the other hand wrote legislation to address policy brutality three years ago.

I believe people will rush to vote for a Biden/Duckworth ticket--you vastly underestimate the respect Americans have for military who made great personal sacrifices. Harris has higher negatives and is perceived as an opportunist, and was never especially popular in the Black community. Only coastal Dems will rush to vote for her, and that's not what Biden needs.


Kamala Harris was Attorney General of California for six years and has been its U.S. senator for 2.5 years - in case you didn’t know CA is the most populous state in the union, the largest GDP in the union, and the 5th largest GDP in the world.

Before that she was District Attorney for San Francisco and graduated from a prestigious law school.

Considering she actually practiced law and didn’t just do community activism, I think her bonafides are clear. If anything, she actually has more experience than Obama in matters of politics.

As for the ‘respect’ America has for those that served in the military, tell that to John McCain. Remember him? The man was a war hero and POW. Lost to a junior senator with no military experience and then was insulted by a orange buffoon who ducked service in the same war due to ‘bone spurs’. Same buffoon got the party nomination and presidency after also criticizing gold star families.
Anonymous
You're not addressing my point about middle America, which in my view is crucial. And Harris has a lot of issues in my opinion, from Willie Brown to her prosecutorial record to her attacks on Biden (which Trump will play on a loop), and weak policy chops. If Biden selects a Black VP, he should either go with an unquestionably qualified woman like Susan Rice or with Val Demings, who has a great biography and likely will have greater appeal both in the Black community and to middle America. I like Abrams, who would probably be best for turnout, but don't think she's ready yet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You're not addressing my point about middle America, which in my view is crucial. And Harris has a lot of issues in my opinion, from Willie Brown to her prosecutorial record to her attacks on Biden (which Trump will play on a loop), and weak policy chops. If Biden selects a Black VP, he should either go with an unquestionably qualified woman like Susan Rice or with Val Demings, who has a great biography and likely will have greater appeal both in the Black community and to middle America. I like Abrams, who would probably be best for turnout, but don't think she's ready yet.


Your opinion on Abrams is about the only thing we agree on.

My question here is — why don’t you think Biden himself would appeal to the Midwest?

One of the key points of Obama picking him was that he was an older white male with an affable nature who could appeal as easily to the coal miners of Pennsylvania as he could to Iowa farmers while also having foreign policy chops.

It seems to me the Midwest is covered and bringing unknown names with small bases is not the way to go - Val Denings, really?

If you’re going to pick a Rice go with the one the Midwest doesn’t think hung an Ambassador out to die in Benghazi (that would be Condi).

Lastly, having a ‘fresh’ VP with policy experience but ZERO - NO - NYET ties to Benghazi or Clinton in any way is beneficial to Biden. Some RINOs or fed up party moderates could be won over by a ‘fresh start’ platform and Democrats would be appeased just by having a strong platform.
Anonymous
Biden does not have the Midwest sewn up. See his dismal performance in Iowa.
Anonymous
The more I read about Duckworth, the more impressed I am. Very inspiring figure! However, does most of America know about her?
Anonymous
If Joe wants to win the midwest, he will pick Whitmer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The more I read about Duckworth, the more impressed I am. Very inspiring figure! However, does most of America know about her?


I think most Americans are aware of a disabled vet in congress, but might not immediately know her name or much else about her. Thanks to social media, that would be easy to rectify though. She's also written two op-eds (one with Biden) in the past few weeks, so she's getting out there. Who knew Val Demings' name a month ago, but now she's much better known.

Trump won by very narrow margins in swing states, especially in the midwest. Biden needs a VP who can appeal there, which I think means Duckworth, Whitmer, Baldwin, possibly Demings whose law&order background would be respected there. Right now Duckworth seems to have the lowest risk and least baggage in that group. Anti-Trump sentiment will bring out the vote elsewhere. It's the most direct path to victory.
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Anonymous wrote:The more I read about Duckworth, the more impressed I am. Very inspiring figure! However, does most of America know about her?


I think most Americans are aware of a disabled vet in congress, but might not immediately know her name or much else about her. Thanks to social media, that would be easy to rectify though. She's also written two op-eds (one with Biden) in the past few weeks, so she's getting out there. Who knew Val Demings' name a month ago, but now she's much better known.

Trump won by very narrow margins in swing states, especially in the midwest. Biden needs a VP who can appeal there, which I think means Duckworth, Whitmer, Baldwin, possibly Demings whose law&order background would be respected there. Right now Duckworth seems to have the lowest risk and least baggage in that group. Anti-Trump sentiment will bring out the vote elsewhere. It's the most direct path to victory.


No, that's the supposedly 'safe' path to victory. The same path Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine followed. Look where it got them.

We need people who electrify crowds. That is NOT Biden.

And to be perfectly honest - that's not anyone in the Democratic field at the moment. Which is sad. We had 6 years and NO one can touch Obama or even Clinton's magic.

Maybe AOC but you want to talk green - try putting a bartender up for Vice President of the U.S. and see how far you get.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You're not addressing my point about middle America, which in my view is crucial. And Harris has a lot of issues in my opinion, from Willie Brown to her prosecutorial record to her attacks on Biden (which Trump will play on a loop), and weak policy chops. If Biden selects a Black VP, he should either go with an unquestionably qualified woman like Susan Rice or with Val Demings, who has a great biography and likely will have greater appeal both in the Black community and to middle America. I like Abrams, who would probably be best for turnout, but don't think she's ready yet.


Harris was given a platform to talk about policy and she bungled it up. I am not sure if that says she will not govern well, but it did take away the luster from her campaign. She started out as a very impressive candidate and fizzled out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You're not addressing my point about middle America, which in my view is crucial. And Harris has a lot of issues in my opinion, from Willie Brown to her prosecutorial record to her attacks on Biden (which Trump will play on a loop), and weak policy chops. If Biden selects a Black VP, he should either go with an unquestionably qualified woman like Susan Rice or with Val Demings, who has a great biography and likely will have greater appeal both in the Black community and to middle America. I like Abrams, who would probably be best for turnout, but don't think she's ready yet.


Harris was given a platform to talk about policy and she bungled it up. I am not sure if that says she will not govern well, but it did take away the luster from her campaign. She started out as a very impressive candidate and fizzled out.


So her platform is shaky. But her time in Congress has been rock solid. Did you see her during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings? She rocked it.

That's what we need to get rid of all the Acting grifter appointees in every single federal department and undo the corruption that has spread every single week.

She'll be following Biden's policy anyway, that's what a VP does.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The more I read about Duckworth, the more impressed I am. Very inspiring figure! However, does most of America know about her?


I think most Americans are aware of a disabled vet in congress, but might not immediately know her name or much else about her. Thanks to social media, that would be easy to rectify though. She's also written two op-eds (one with Biden) in the past few weeks, so she's getting out there. Who knew Val Demings' name a month ago, but now she's much better known.

Trump won by very narrow margins in swing states, especially in the midwest. Biden needs a VP who can appeal there, which I think means Duckworth, Whitmer, Baldwin, possibly Demings whose law&order background would be respected there. Right now Duckworth seems to have the lowest risk and least baggage in that group. Anti-Trump sentiment will bring out the vote elsewhere. It's the most direct path to victory.


No, that's the supposedly 'safe' path to victory. The same path Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine followed. Look where it got them.

We need people who electrify crowds. That is NOT Biden.

And to be perfectly honest - that's not anyone in the Democratic field at the moment. Which is sad. We had 6 years and NO one can touch Obama or even Clinton's magic.

Maybe AOC but you want to talk green - try putting a bartender up for Vice President of the U.S. and see how far you get.


AOC not eligible.
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