Biden's VP?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Deval Patrick


Oh stop. He could be the nominee now if he hadn't hemmed and hawed up running. It will be a woman, plenty of good options.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Klobuchar would be the best, but she's unlikely to be picked now given the MN situation. Harris has a strong chance, but someone might tell Biden that (soft) racist independents in swing states who are leaning towards voting for him because they are tired of Donald Trump's voice would be turned off by this. So all roads point to Warren. She can speak blue collar and excite some on the left. Not the Bernie Bros who hate her, to be sure, but enough. Guessing some pro-Biden suburban white guys won't be thrilled, but overall, it's the smart play.


The way Harris combines vindictiveness, opportunism, and partisanship turned me off to her. She seems like she can be cruel for no reason.

I could live with Warren. At least when she was vindictive (vs the banks) it was well justified.

I agree Klobuchar is out now.

This is the most important choice Biden has to make because all of the independents will vote for or against his VP, not him (or Trump).



I like Karmala Harris for SCOTUS.



Why? There are AA women judges who have taken the more traditional path to SCOTUS, have stronger academic backgrounds in constitutional law etc.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s a long shot.

But I would really love Michelle as VP.

I really think her voice could calm a nation in turmoil.


It's not a long shot, the wheels have been in motion. Why do you think the Obamas have been so 'out there' lately? It's not organic, it's for a reason. Her being VP is the only reason.


Lol yes it’s for the reason of wanting Joe Biden to be president and using their immense popularity to campaign for him. She doesn’t want to be VP!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Klobuchar would be the best, but she's unlikely to be picked now given the MN situation. Harris has a strong chance, but someone might tell Biden that (soft) racist independents in swing states who are leaning towards voting for him because they are tired of Donald Trump's voice would be turned off by this. So all roads point to Warren. She can speak blue collar and excite some on the left. Not the Bernie Bros who hate her, to be sure, but enough. Guessing some pro-Biden suburban white guys won't be thrilled, but overall, it's the smart play.


The way Harris combines vindictiveness, opportunism, and partisanship turned me off to her. She seems like she can be cruel for no reason.

I could live with Warren. At least when she was vindictive (vs the banks) it was well justified.

I agree Klobuchar is out now.

This is the most important choice Biden has to make because all of the independents will vote for or against his VP, not him (or Trump).



I like Karmala Harris for SCOTUS.



Why? There are AA women judges who have taken the more traditional path to SCOTUS, have stronger academic backgrounds in constitutional law etc.


Also Joe owes her nothing. She trashed him in debates and didn't endorse him before the CA primary. A few days she posted a pic of Beau Biden on the anniversary of his death--so gross and opportunistic! If I were Joe, I wouldn't consider her for dogcatcher.
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Anonymous wrote:The more I read about Val Demmings, the more I like her.

This msy be a case where she becomes the right person for these particular times.


I agree. Biden doesn’t need California and Harris’ UMC upbringing and political
appointment by her married boyfriend twice her age is just not appealing.


Unfortunately the George Floyd case may have sunk Demings chances along with Klobuchar and Harris. Demings stint as Orlando police chief was criticized for using excessive force especially when dealing with African American suspects. In 2012, she lost the Congressional seat. In 2014, she withdrew from her bid to be Orlando mayor. In 2016, she only won the Congressional seat due to redistricting that made her district more Democratic. While running in 2016, she refused to comment about her period as police chief. That tactic is not going to serve her well now as a VP candidate. The George Floyd case will force this discussion of her past as the Orlando police chief and since she was a B-list candidate to begin with, this may well sink her chances.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/31/joe-biden-vice-president-george-floyd-291063
Demings, who served as Orlando’s first female police chief, oversaw a department that has had a history of criticism for using excessive force.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/orlando-police-complaints-in-the-spotlight-as-african-american-ex-chief-runs-for-congress/443526/
When Demings first ran for Congress in 2012, discussion of her tenure leading the OPD tended to start and stop at one statistic: a 43.6 percent drop in violent crime from 2007 to 2011, according to FBI reports. But over the last year, a string of highly publicized shootings and violent arrests of African Americans by police has changed the criteria that voters and the media use to judge officeholders on law enforcement.

The growing focus on police misconduct highlights less agreeable aspects of Demings’s time helming the Orlando Police Department from 2007 to 2011.

The department has a long record of excessive-force allegations, and a lack of transparency on the subject, dating back at least as far as Demings’s time as chief. From 2010 to 2014, the department paid out more than $3.3 million in damages following at least 47 lawsuits alleging false arrest, excessive force, and other complaints against the department’s officers, according to WFTV. (Records about these cases and other allegations of police misconduct in Orlando are not centrally housed or publicized, and some lawsuits are still outstanding.)
Anonymous
Michelle Obama would be a lousy choice. She would be toxic to many voters, much like Hillary. Need someone fresh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Michelle Obama would be a lousy choice. She would be toxic to many voters, much like Hillary. Need someone fresh.


You could not be more wrong.

With Michelle on the ticket, Biden would win in a landslide.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Michelle Obama would be a lousy choice. She would be toxic to many voters, much like Hillary. Need someone fresh.


You could not be more wrong.

With Michelle on the ticket, Biden would win in a landslide.


Please drop it, she said on her Becoming tour she has zero interest in seeking elected office. She's been through enough.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Michelle Obama would be a lousy choice. She would be toxic to many voters, much like Hillary. Need someone fresh.


You could not be more wrong.

With Michelle on the ticket, Biden would win in a landslide.


Please drop it, she said on her Becoming tour she has zero interest in seeking elected office. She's been through enough.


I agree with both statements.

She's not going to do it.

But it she did, Biden would win in a landslide.

At this point, I'm torn about this. I'm glad he waited to pick someone because it looked like it was going to be Klobuchar. Now, I'm thinking Stacey Abrams.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Klobuchar would be the best, but she's unlikely to be picked now given the MN situation. Harris has a strong chance, but someone might tell Biden that (soft) racist independents in swing states who are leaning towards voting for him because they are tired of Donald Trump's voice would be turned off by this. So all roads point to Warren. She can speak blue collar and excite some on the left. Not the Bernie Bros who hate her, to be sure, but enough. Guessing some pro-Biden suburban white guys won't be thrilled, but overall, it's the smart play.


The way Harris combines vindictiveness, opportunism, and partisanship turned me off to her. She seems like she can be cruel for no reason.

I could live with Warren. At least when she was vindictive (vs the banks) it was well justified.

I agree Klobuchar is out now.

This is the most important choice Biden has to make because all of the independents will vote for or against his VP, not him (or Trump).



This is a read I get. I am solely one person, however.

I like Karmala Harris for SCOTUS.



Why? There are AA women judges who have taken the more traditional path to SCOTUS, have stronger academic backgrounds in constitutional law etc.


Also Joe owes her nothing. She trashed him in debates and didn't endorse him before the CA primary. A few days she posted a pic of Beau Biden on the anniversary of his death--so gross and opportunistic! If I were Joe, I wouldn't consider her for dogcatcher.
Anonymous
My reply was misplaced, I have no thought on Harris as Scotus.
Anonymous
Tammy Duckworth wrote a good op-ed out today. She introduced legislation to address police brutality three years ago but Mitch O'Connell wouldn't put it forward, surprise surprise.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/01/opinions/fight-for-justice-for-george-floyd-duckworth/index.html
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Michelle Obama would be a lousy choice. She would be toxic to many voters, much like Hillary. Need someone fresh.


You could not be more wrong.

With Michelle on the ticket, Biden would win in a landslide.


Nobody is going to win a landslide regardless of VP picks. It’s going to be close.
Anonymous
Lightfoot!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Michelle Obama would be a lousy choice. She would be toxic to many voters, much like Hillary. Need someone fresh.


You could not be more wrong.

With Michelle on the ticket, Biden would win in a landslide.


Nobody is going to win a landslide regardless of VP picks. It’s going to be close.


Which boggles my mind every single day.

I’m thinking Abrams or Duckworth at this point. For a while I thought Abrams was too risky because as society we have a higher “experience” bar for female candidates (especially minority female candidates). But whatever- anyone who tries to paint her as the Dem version of Sarah Palin is a fool. She’s smart and capable and will inspire. But Duckworth would be great too.
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