DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

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DCPS and DPR are the same city government. Who pays for what is accounting. Hardy is a public school. Maret, a private school for families that have opted out of city schools, is not entitled to jump to the front of the line for public resources. Hardy parents may be in a land grab, but that’s a negotiation with the other city and city sponsored entities that are competing for resources. Maret, per city rules, doesn’t even rank in the discussion. So they called in chits and skipped the line. Bad look, not getting any better no matter how defensive they get.

Who pays for what is accounting?? Spoken like a person who has never ventured into real work. If they were the same, why create two agencies instead of one? It's because they serve two different purposes. DPR serves in the best interest of the PUBLIC not entitled Hardy middle school parents.

Hardy is a PUBLIC school. Maybe they don’t win in a fair allocation, but we don’t know that because there hasn’t been one. Maret definitely doesn’t. And, yes, who pays for what is accounting. My kids go to a DCPS school where the playground is DPR. It works.

Oddly, Maret kept talking yesterday about how the city needs more public park space for all our children, as though DC has the same responsibility to provide capacity for Maret teams as it does public school teams. I just don’t get it. No other independent school seems to have this bizarre expectation.

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The public is not the same as a public school. Maret wins the allocation because it has invested in the field and will maintain it for PUBLIC use. DCPS and Hardy school will not. DPR has to choose the one that best serves the interest of the public.

Actually, no. DC has invested in the field. Maret bought some (less expendive) depreciable assets. And DPR does maintain fields. Maybe not to the same standard, but good enough to use.

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Anonymous wrote:Check out Maret's new webpage devoted to their spin machine. This is priceless. Complete with charts and pictures. I'm guessing this was what was included in the "packet" their witnesses continuously referred to yesterday.

https://www.maret.org/athletics/jelleff

This is pathetic, let Maret buy the space for fair market value, use the money for capital investments elsewhere and be done with it. A sad spin by a bunch of entitled people digging in.

The Maret team are priviliged pieces of S who are used to bullying and getting their way and I’m sure they will again, but at least they’re getting called on it this time. Kudos to Dave McKenna for naming names.

That’s patently false. You obviously don’t know anything about the school. Just like the previous poster jumped to conclusions about a thread being deleted ‘by Maret’ when the owner of this site deleted it. The owner of this site said the same 4 or 5 people who keep posting on this thread were the exact same people posting on the attempted private school thread.

[Anonymous]

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DCPS and DPR are the same city government. Who pays for what is accounting. Hardy is a public school. Maret, a private school for families that have opted out of city schools, is not entitled to jump to the front of the line for public resources. Hardy parents may be in a land grab, but that’s a negotiation with the other city and city sponsored entities that are competing for resources. Maret, per city rules, doesn’t even rank in the discussion. So they called in chits and skipped the line. Bad look, not getting any better no matter how defensive they get.

Who pays for what is accounting?? Spoken like a person who has never ventured into real work. If they were the same, why create two agencies instead of one? It's because they serve two different purposes. DPR serves in the best interest of the PUBLIC not entitled Hardy middle school parents.

Hardy is a PUBLIC school. Maybe they don’t win in a fair allocation, but we don’t know that because there hasn’t been one. Maret definitely doesn’t. And, yes, who pays for what is accounting. My kids go to a DCPS school where the playground is DPR. It works.

Oddly, Maret kept talking yesterday about how the city needs more public park space for all our children, as though DC has the same responsibility to provide capacity for Maret teams as it does public school teams. I just don’t get it. No other independent school seems to have this bizarre expectation.

That’s interesting to me, too. One of my kids is in private and one in public. Both schools have so many teams that they have problems scheduling practice and match times on their own fields, yet neither attempts to hijack other fields for its own use. Sometimes it does take holding some practices before school. At Wilson, for instance, boys varsity soccer regularly practices on the Wilson field at 6am. I suggest that Maret look into maximizing use of their own field by scheduling matches and practices before school.

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DCPS and DPR are the same city government. Who pays for what is accounting. Hardy is a public school. Maret, a private school for families that have opted out of city schools, is not entitled to jump to the front of the line for public resources. Hardy parents may be in a land grab, but that’s a negotiation with the other city and city sponsored entities that are competing for resources. Maret, per city rules, doesn’t even rank in the discussion. So they called in chits and skipped the line. Bad look, not getting any better no matter how defensive they get.

Who pays for what is accounting?? Spoken like a person who has never ventured into real work. If they were the same, why create two agencies instead of one? It's because they serve two different purposes. DPR serves in the best interest of the PUBLIC not entitled Hardy middle school parents.

Hardy is a PUBLIC school. Maybe they don’t win in a fair allocation, but we don’t know that because there hasn’t been one. Maret definitely doesn’t. And, yes, who pays for what is accounting. My kids go to a DCPS school where the playground is DPR. It works.

Oddly, Maret kept talking yesterday about how the city needs more public park space for all our children, as though DC has the same responsibility to provide capacity for Maret teams as it does public school teams. I just don’t get it. No other independent school seems to have this bizarre expectation.

That’s interesting to me, too. One of my kids is in private and one in public. Both schools have so many teams that they have problems scheduling practice and match times on their own fields, yet neither attempts to hijack other fields for its own use. Sometimes it does take holding some practices before school. At Wilson, for instance, boys varsity soccer regularly practices on the Wilson field at 6am. I suggest that Maret look into maximizing use of their own field by scheduling matches and practices before school.

Wilson uses Fort Reno, a DPR field, for baseball, soccer and tennis. Which is as it should be. It's right across the street. Which is really common, DC went on a building spree in the 1930's and built a bunch of schools, and many of them were put next to rec centers, the thinking was they were complementary facilities. Hardy is really an oddball, a DCPS school very close to two DPR facilities -- Jelleff and Guy Mason -- and it can't use either of them.

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DCPS and DPR are the same city government. Who pays for what is accounting. Hardy is a public school. Maret, a private school for families that have opted out of city schools, is not entitled to jump to the front of the line for public resources. Hardy parents may be in a land grab, but that’s a negotiation with the other city and city sponsored entities that are competing for resources. Maret, per city rules, doesn’t even rank in the discussion. So they called in chits and skipped the line. Bad look, not getting any better no matter how defensive they get.

Who pays for what is accounting?? Spoken like a person who has never ventured into real work. If they were the same, why create two agencies instead of one? It's because they serve two different purposes. DPR serves in the best interest of the PUBLIC not entitled Hardy middle school parents.

Hardy is a PUBLIC school. Maybe they don’t win in a fair allocation, but we don’t know that because there hasn’t been one. Maret definitely doesn’t. And, yes, who pays for what is accounting. My kids go to a DCPS school where the playground is DPR. It works.

Oddly, Maret kept talking yesterday about how the city needs more public park space for all our children, as though DC has the same responsibility to provide capacity for Maret teams as it does public school teams. I just don’t get it. No other independent school seems to have this bizarre expectation.

That’s interesting to me, too. One of my kids is in private and one in public. Both schools have so many teams that they have problems scheduling practice and match times on their own fields, yet neither attempts to hijack other fields for its own use. Sometimes it does take holding some practices before school. At Wilson, for instance, boys varsity soccer regularly practices on the Wilson field at 6am. I suggest that Maret look into maximizing use of their own field by scheduling matches and practices before school.

You do realize how ridiculous this sounds right?

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Anonymous wrote:Maret claims it would “impossible” to increase the field space on their 7 acre campus. It would undoubtedly be difficult (I used to live in the neighborhood) but or course it’s not impossible. It would be no harder and far more just than the “solutions” the Maret people keep suggesting for Hardy.

+1 When they weren't busy ticking off their bullet points boo-hooing how they are victims of meanings on social media, Maret witnesses were so happy to blather on about alternatives and solutions. Gee thanks. Thanks for telling Hardy how it should install an underground parking lot and bulldoze all it's green space in order to build something new so that they can avoid having to share space that my tax dollars pay for.

The worst was the Maret dad who stated that he looked into how much it would cost to bury the parking lot under an expanded field at Hardy: "Based on my preliminary estimates and research, it will cost about $5 million dollars to build an underground parking garage and expand the field."

Yes, entitled asshat. Hardy has $5m just sitting around while you monpolize a piece of land that is easily worth $20m (which your school did not buy).

My favorite was the Maret person who explained that since Maret students live all over the city, it was necessary that their sports teams practice right after school and very near the school, because the Maret students needed to get home for dinner and homework.

Astounding.

Oh Maret is so bad unlike the Hardy parents land grab. The demographics of the IB schools to Hardy are some of the wealthiest in the city. So Georgetown’s and Palisade’s middle school gets a DPR recenter and field. The rest of DCPS middle schools get nothing. Even better DPR can pay for Hardy’s new facility. Maybe DPR can lay-off some more employees or cut programs East of the Park so Hardy can have a sport facility almost as big as Wilson has? DCPS will not spend one dime to maintain that facility.

DCPS and DPR are the same city government. Who pays for what is accounting. Hardy is a public school. Maret, a private school for families that have opted out of city schools, is not entitled to jump to the front of the line for public resources. Hardy parents may be in a land grab, but that’s a negotiation with the other city and city sponsored entities that are competing for resources. Maret, per city rules, doesn’t even rank in the discussion. So they called in chits and skipped the line. Bad look, not getting any better no matter how defensive they get.

Who pays for what is accounting?? Spoken like a person who has never ventured into real work. If they were the same, why create two agencies instead of one? It's because they serve two different purposes. DPR serves in the best interest of the PUBLIC not entitled Hardy middle school parents.

Hardy is a PUBLIC school. Maybe they don’t win in a fair allocation, but we don’t know that because there hasn’t been one. Maret definitely doesn’t. And, yes, who pays for what is accounting. My kids go to a DCPS school where the playground is DPR. It works.

The public is not the same as a public school. Maret wins the allocation because it has invested in the field and will maintain it for PUBLIC use. DCPS and Hardy school will not. DPR has to choose the one that best serves the interest of the public.

Can you please differentiate between the PUBLIC tax dollars that are allocated for DPR vs. those that are allocated for DCPS/Hardy and/or help the general PUBLIC understand the difference where their PUBLIC tax dollars go?

No point explaining because you simply have no comprehension about how budgetary resources are allocated in public or private agencies. Are Hardy parents this clueless?

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Anonymous wrote:The public is not the same as a public school. Maret wins the allocation because it has invested in the field and will maintain it for PUBLIC use. DCPS and Hardy school will not. DPR has to choose the one that best serves the interest of the public.

You realize what you wrote here is a total lie, right?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Check out Maret's new webpage devoted to their spin machine. This is priceless. Complete with charts and pictures. I'm guessing this was what was included in the "packet" their witnesses continuously referred to yesterday.

https://www.maret.org/athletics/jelleff

This is pathetic, let Maret buy the space for fair market value, use the money for capital investments elsewhere and be done with it. A sad spin by a bunch of entitled people digging in.

The Maret team are priviliged pieces of S who are used to bullying and getting their way and I’m sure they will again, but at least they’re getting called on it this time. Kudos to Dave McKenna for naming names.

That’s patently false. You obviously don’t know anything about the school. Just like the previous poster jumped to conclusions about a thread being deleted ‘by Maret’ when the owner of this site deleted it. The owner of this site said the same 4 or 5 people who keep posting on this thread were the exact same people posting on the attempted private school thread.

My first time posting on this thread was today after reading the McKenna article and I don’t see anything false I what I said.

[Anonymous]

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The public is not the same as a public school. Maret wins the allocation because it has invested in the field and will maintain it for PUBLIC use. DCPS and Hardy school will not. DPR has to choose the one that best serves the interest of the public.

Actually, no. DC has invested in the field. Maret bought some (less expendive) depreciable assets. And DPR does maintain fields. Maybe not to the same standard, but good enough to use.

Giant wanking motion to the BS from the Maret poster here. They won the allocation due to corruption. You won, just own it.

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Anonymous wrote:Maret claims it would “impossible” to increase the field space on their 7 acre campus. It would undoubtedly be difficult (I used to live in the neighborhood) but or course it’s not impossible. It would be no harder and far more just than the “solutions” the Maret people keep suggesting for Hardy.

+1 When they weren't busy ticking off their bullet points boo-hooing how they are victims of meanings on social media, Maret witnesses were so happy to blather on about alternatives and solutions. Gee thanks. Thanks for telling Hardy how it should install an underground parking lot and bulldoze all it's green space in order to build something new so that they can avoid having to share space that my tax dollars pay for.

The worst was the Maret dad who stated that he looked into how much it would cost to bury the parking lot under an expanded field at Hardy: "Based on my preliminary estimates and research, it will cost about $5 million dollars to build an underground parking garage and expand the field."

Yes, entitled asshat. Hardy has $5m just sitting around while you monpolize a piece of land that is easily worth $20m (which your school did not buy).

My favorite was the Maret person who explained that since Maret students live all over the city, it was necessary that their sports teams practice right after school and very near the school, because the Maret students needed to get home for dinner and homework.

Astounding.

Oh Maret is so bad unlike the Hardy parents land grab. The demographics of the IB schools to Hardy are some of the wealthiest in the city. So Georgetown’s and Palisade’s middle school gets a DPR recenter and field. The rest of DCPS middle schools get nothing. Even better DPR can pay for Hardy’s new facility. Maybe DPR can lay-off some more employees or cut programs East of the Park so Hardy can have a sport facility almost as big as Wilson has? DCPS will not spend one dime to maintain that facility.

DCPS and DPR are the same city government. Who pays for what is accounting. Hardy is a public school. Maret, a private school for families that have opted out of city schools, is not entitled to jump to the front of the line for public resources. Hardy parents may be in a land grab, but that’s a negotiation with the other city and city sponsored entities that are competing for resources. Maret, per city rules, doesn’t even rank in the discussion. So they called in chits and skipped the line. Bad look, not getting any better no matter how defensive they get.

Who pays for what is accounting?? Spoken like a person who has never ventured into real work. If they were the same, why create two agencies instead of one? It's because they serve two different purposes. DPR serves in the best interest of the PUBLIC not entitled Hardy middle school parents.

Hardy is a PUBLIC school. Maybe they don’t win in a fair allocation, but we don’t know that because there hasn’t been one. Maret definitely doesn’t. And, yes, who pays for what is accounting. My kids go to a DCPS school where the playground is DPR. It works.

The public is not the same as a public school. Maret wins the allocation because it has invested in the field and will maintain it for PUBLIC use. DCPS and Hardy school will not. DPR has to choose the one that best serves the interest of the public.

Can you please differentiate between the PUBLIC tax dollars that are allocated for DPR vs. those that are allocated for DCPS/Hardy and/or help the general PUBLIC understand the difference where their PUBLIC tax dollars go?

No point explaining because you simply have no comprehension about how budgetary resources are allocated in public or private agencies. Are Hardy parents this clueless?

Ha ha ha, joke is on you. There is an actual documented process for resrouce allocation. But you are a Maret booster so you are used to the non-public backdoor, wink wink process. And I'm the poster way up thread that believes the kids getting screwed the most are those that are stuck in a basement. I may be clueless but I'm a Deal parent that hates bad public policy.

https://cfo.dc.gov/page/overview-budget-formulation-process

[Anonymous]

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DCPS and DPR are the same city government. Who pays for what is accounting. Hardy is a public school. Maret, a private school for families that have opted out of city schools, is not entitled to jump to the front of the line for public resources. Hardy parents may be in a land grab, but that’s a negotiation with the other city and city sponsored entities that are competing for resources. Maret, per city rules, doesn’t even rank in the discussion. So they called in chits and skipped the line. Bad look, not getting any better no matter how defensive they get.

Who pays for what is accounting?? Spoken like a person who has never ventured into real work. If they were the same, why create two agencies instead of one? It's because they serve two different purposes. DPR serves in the best interest of the PUBLIC not entitled Hardy middle school parents.

Hardy is a PUBLIC school. Maybe they don’t win in a fair allocation, but we don’t know that because there hasn’t been one. Maret definitely doesn’t. And, yes, who pays for what is accounting. My kids go to a DCPS school where the playground is DPR. It works.

Oddly, Maret kept talking yesterday about how the city needs more public park space for all our children, as though DC has the same responsibility to provide capacity for Maret teams as it does public school teams. I just don’t get it. No other independent school seems to have this bizarre expectation.

That’s interesting to me, too. One of my kids is in private and one in public. Both schools have so many teams that they have problems scheduling practice and match times on their own fields, yet neither attempts to hijack other fields for its own use. Sometimes it does take holding some practices before school. At Wilson, for instance, boys varsity soccer regularly practices on the Wilson field at 6am. I suggest that Maret look into maximizing use of their own field by scheduling matches and practices before school.

You do realize how ridiculous this sounds right?

Other schools do it, including Wilson, so not very ridiculous. Ask a hockey or a swimming parent about crazy before school practices!

[Anonymous]

So according the their website, Maret wants the city to spend millions of dollars upgrading the ellington field so they can use jelleff? Is that a joke? Yes, ellington needs to be redone but that shouldn't be a subsitute. It will take lots of money and several years before that field is ready to use. And lots of other DCPS schools, such as School without walls, will need to use it. Can't believe Maret decided to post the update on the website and can't believe they seem so committed to their own crazy version of the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:So according the their website, Maret wants the city to spend millions of dollars upgrading the ellington field so they can use jelleff? Is that a joke? Yes, ellington needs to be redone but that shouldn't be a subsitute. It will take lots of money and several years before that field is ready to use. And lots of other DCPS schools, such as School without walls, will need to use it. Can't believe Maret decided to post the update on the website and can't believe they seem so committed to their own crazy version of the truth.

Even Elissa Silverman talked about bringing Ellington online for more school children to use. But precious neighbors want to keep it for their giant dog park instead of having it as a usable safe place for children. As a matter of fact, the Hardy PTO reps there also agreed that Ellington would be a great place for Hardy.

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Anonymous wrote:So according the their website, Maret wants the city to spend millions of dollars upgrading the ellington field so they can use jelleff? Is that a joke? Yes, ellington needs to be redone but that shouldn't be a subsitute. It will take lots of money and several years before that field is ready to use. And lots of other DCPS schools, such as School without walls, will need to use it. Can't believe Maret decided to post the update on the website and can't believe they seem so committed to their own crazy version of the truth.

Even Elissa Silverman talked about bringing Ellington online for more school children to use. But precious neighbors want to keep it for their giant dog park instead of having it as a usable safe place for children. As a matter of fact, the Hardy PTO reps there also agreed that Ellington would be a great place for Hardy.

The Hardy reps said it would be useful, not “great.” But it was noted that it still has deficiencies— no parking, no locker rooms, (no bathrooms?), not regulation size currently. Ellington Field is needed, but that doesn’t change the fact that DPR had no business renewing the Maret deal for Jelleff.