DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh Maret is so bad unlike the Hardy parents land grab. The demographics of the IB schools to Hardy are some of the wealthiest in the city. So Georgetown’s and Palisade’s middle school gets a DPR recenter and field. The rest of DCPS middle schools get nothing. Even better DPR can pay for Hardy’s new facility. Maybe DPR can lay-off some more employees or cut programs East of the Park so Hardy can have a sport facility almost as big as Wilson has? DCPS will not spend one dime to maintain that facility.

Apparently, Maret parents have a problem with reading comprehension.

Try to follow, if you can. The people opposed to Maret’s back room deal want DC to transparently and openly decide how to give access to Jelleff, based on the best interests of the residents of DC. Nobody, other than Maret, is asking to monopolize the playing field.

There is one or two posters on here who somehow think they are going to paint this as a Hardy vs. Maret issue and think that somehow that's going to be a winning argument. Bizarro. Sure, there is a growing number of middle class families who attend Hardy. But the school continues to proudly serve students from all DC Wards, with 30% of its students economically disadvantaged. Many of those students who are poor and live a couple bus rides away from school are the exact ones who are relegated to the basement of Jelleff each day. Hardy is one of the most, if not the most, diverse schools in the city. Having uber rich Maret boosters come on here and call Hardy families rich is ....uh....rich. Thanks for the laugh.

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Anonymous wrote:Maret claims it would “impossible” to increase the field space on their 7 acre campus. It would undoubtedly be difficult (I used to live in the neighborhood) but or course it’s not impossible. It would be no harder and far more just than the “solutions” the Maret people keep suggesting for Hardy.

+1 When they weren't busy ticking off their bullet points boo-hooing how they are victims of meanings on social media, Maret witnesses were so happy to blather on about alternatives and solutions. Gee thanks. Thanks for telling Hardy how it should install an underground parking lot and bulldoze all it's green space in order to build something new so that they can avoid having to share space that my tax dollars pay for.

The worst was the Maret dad who stated that he looked into how much it would cost to bury the parking lot under an expanded field at Hardy: "Based on my preliminary estimates and research, it will cost about $5 million dollars to build an underground parking garage and expand the field."

Yes, entitled asshat. Hardy has $5m just sitting around while you monpolize a piece of land that is easily worth $20m (which your school did not buy).

My favorite was the Maret person who explained that since Maret students live all over the city, it was necessary that their sports teams practice right after school and very near the school, because the Maret students needed to get home for dinner and homework.

Astounding.

Oh Maret is so bad unlike the Hardy parents land grab. The demographics of the IB schools to Hardy are some of the wealthiest in the city. So Georgetown’s and Palisade’s middle school gets a DPR recenter and field. The rest of DCPS middle schools get nothing. Even better DPR can pay for Hardy’s new facility. Maybe DPR can lay-off some more employees or cut programs East of the Park so Hardy can have a sport facility almost as big as Wilson has? DCPS will not spend one dime to maintain that facility.

DCPS and DPR are the same city government. Who pays for what is accounting. Hardy is a public school. Maret, a private school for families that have opted out of city schools, is not entitled to jump to the front of the line for public resources. Hardy parents may be in a land grab, but that’s a negotiation with the other city and city sponsored entities that are competing for resources. Maret, per city rules, doesn’t even rank in the discussion. So they called in chits and skipped the line. Bad look, not getting any better no matter how defensive they get.

Who pays for what is accounting?? Spoken like a person who has never ventured into real work. If they were the same, why create two agencies instead of one? It's because they serve two different purposes. DPR serves in the best interest of the PUBLIC not entitled Hardy middle school parents.

[Anonymous]

Check out Maret's new webpage devoted to their spin machine. This is priceless. Complete with charts and pictures. I'm guessing this was what was included in the "packet" their witnesses continuously referred to yesterday.

https://www.maret.org/athletics/jelleff

[Anonymous]

Another sign of Maret privilege is that you can’t discuss this on the private board

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Another sign of Maret privilege is that you can’t discuss this on the private board

That's not a sign of Maret privilege, but my privilege due to owning this website. You are free to post in this thread. You are not free to start multiple threads on the same topic. You can keep trying and I'll keep deleting them and then you can continue to wrongly blame Maret.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Check out Maret's new webpage devoted to their spin machine. This is priceless. Complete with charts and pictures. I'm guessing this was what was included in the "packet" their witnesses continuously referred to yesterday.

https://www.maret.org/athletics/jelleff

This is pathetic, let Maret buy the space for fair market value, use the money for capital investments elsewhere and be done with it. A sad spin by a bunch of entitled people digging in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One way to resolve this is for DPR to issue an RFP request and figure out the fair market value of the afternoon time slots. It will like be a multiple of the $100K/year Maret is slated to pay in capital improvements.

Maret could then pay the fair market amount or take its balls and go back to Cathedral Ave NW.

You'd also need to value public use somehow. Hardy spends $800/day busing kids around the city for sports. That's $4K/week in season, or $80k/year, just for starters. Then how do you value the time that those kids spend riding the bus when they could be in class, studying, practicing or at home?

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Anonymous wrote:Maret claims it would “impossible” to increase the field space on their 7 acre campus. It would undoubtedly be difficult (I used to live in the neighborhood) but or course it’s not impossible. It would be no harder and far more just than the “solutions” the Maret people keep suggesting for Hardy.

+1 When they weren't busy ticking off their bullet points boo-hooing how they are victims of meanings on social media, Maret witnesses were so happy to blather on about alternatives and solutions. Gee thanks. Thanks for telling Hardy how it should install an underground parking lot and bulldoze all it's green space in order to build something new so that they can avoid having to share space that my tax dollars pay for.

The worst was the Maret dad who stated that he looked into how much it would cost to bury the parking lot under an expanded field at Hardy: "Based on my preliminary estimates and research, it will cost about $5 million dollars to build an underground parking garage and expand the field."

Yes, entitled asshat. Hardy has $5m just sitting around while you monpolize a piece of land that is easily worth $20m (which your school did not buy).

My favorite was the Maret person who explained that since Maret students live all over the city, it was necessary that their sports teams practice right after school and very near the school, because the Maret students needed to get home for dinner and homework.

Astounding.

Oh Maret is so bad unlike the Hardy parents land grab. The demographics of the IB schools to Hardy are some of the wealthiest in the city. So Georgetown’s and Palisade’s middle school gets a DPR recenter and field. The rest of DCPS middle schools get nothing. Even better DPR can pay for Hardy’s new facility. Maybe DPR can lay-off some more employees or cut programs East of the Park so Hardy can have a sport facility almost as big as Wilson has? DCPS will not spend one dime to maintain that facility.

DCPS and DPR are the same city government. Who pays for what is accounting. Hardy is a public school. Maret, a private school for families that have opted out of city schools, is not entitled to jump to the front of the line for public resources. Hardy parents may be in a land grab, but that’s a negotiation with the other city and city sponsored entities that are competing for resources. Maret, per city rules, doesn’t even rank in the discussion. So they called in chits and skipped the line. Bad look, not getting any better no matter how defensive they get.

Who pays for what is accounting?? Spoken like a person who has never ventured into real work. If they were the same, why create two agencies instead of one? It's because they serve two different purposes. DPR serves in the best interest of the PUBLIC not entitled Hardy middle school parents.

Hardy is a PUBLIC school. Maybe they don’t win in a fair allocation, but we don’t know that because there hasn’t been one. Maret definitely doesn’t. And, yes, who pays for what is accounting. My kids go to a DCPS school where the playground is DPR. It works.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One way to resolve this is for DPR to issue an RFP request and figure out the fair market value of the afternoon time slots. It will like be a multiple of the $100K/year Maret is slated to pay in capital improvements.

Maret could then pay the fair market amount or take its balls and go back to Cathedral Ave NW.

You'd also need to value public use somehow. Hardy spends $800/day busing kids around the city for sports. That's $4K/week in season, or $80k/year, just for starters. Then how do you value the time that those kids spend riding the bus when they could be in class, studying, practicing or at home?

The underlying issue is that DPR did zero cost-benefit analysis before renewing the contract. Maret wanted it, so the Mayor wanted it, and that was that.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another sign of Maret privilege is that you can’t discuss this on the private board

That's not a sign of Maret privilege, but my privilege due to owning this website. You are free to post in this thread. You are not free to start multiple threads on the same topic. You can keep trying and I'll keep deleting them and then you can continue to wrongly blame Maret.

What’s the ‘clap back’ emoji?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Maret claims it would “impossible” to increase the field space on their 7 acre campus. It would undoubtedly be difficult (I used to live in the neighborhood) but or course it’s not impossible. It would be no harder and far more just than the “solutions” the Maret people keep suggesting for Hardy.

+1 When they weren't busy ticking off their bullet points boo-hooing how they are victims of meanings on social media, Maret witnesses were so happy to blather on about alternatives and solutions. Gee thanks. Thanks for telling Hardy how it should install an underground parking lot and bulldoze all it's green space in order to build something new so that they can avoid having to share space that my tax dollars pay for.

The worst was the Maret dad who stated that he looked into how much it would cost to bury the parking lot under an expanded field at Hardy: "Based on my preliminary estimates and research, it will cost about $5 million dollars to build an underground parking garage and expand the field."

Yes, entitled asshat. Hardy has $5m just sitting around while you monpolize a piece of land that is easily worth $20m (which your school did not buy).

My favorite was the Maret person who explained that since Maret students live all over the city, it was necessary that their sports teams practice right after school and very near the school, because the Maret students needed to get home for dinner and homework.

Astounding.

Oh Maret is so bad unlike the Hardy parents land grab. The demographics of the IB schools to Hardy are some of the wealthiest in the city. So Georgetown’s and Palisade’s middle school gets a DPR recenter and field. The rest of DCPS middle schools get nothing. Even better DPR can pay for Hardy’s new facility. Maybe DPR can lay-off some more employees or cut programs East of the Park so Hardy can have a sport facility almost as big as Wilson has? DCPS will not spend one dime to maintain that facility.

DCPS and DPR are the same city government. Who pays for what is accounting. Hardy is a public school. Maret, a private school for families that have opted out of city schools, is not entitled to jump to the front of the line for public resources. Hardy parents may be in a land grab, but that’s a negotiation with the other city and city sponsored entities that are competing for resources. Maret, per city rules, doesn’t even rank in the discussion. So they called in chits and skipped the line. Bad look, not getting any better no matter how defensive they get.

Who pays for what is accounting?? Spoken like a person who has never ventured into real work. If they were the same, why create two agencies instead of one? It's because they serve two different purposes. DPR serves in the best interest of the PUBLIC not entitled Hardy middle school parents.

Hardy is a PUBLIC school. Maybe they don’t win in a fair allocation, but we don’t know that because there hasn’t been one. Maret definitely doesn’t. And, yes, who pays for what is accounting. My kids go to a DCPS school where the playground is DPR. It works.

The public is not the same as a public school. Maret wins the allocation because it has invested in the field and will maintain it for PUBLIC use. DCPS and Hardy school will not. DPR has to choose the one that best serves the interest of the public.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One way to resolve this is for DPR to issue an RFP request and figure out the fair market value of the afternoon time slots. It will like be a multiple of the $100K/year Maret is slated to pay in capital improvements.

Maret could then pay the fair market amount or take its balls and go back to Cathedral Ave NW.

You'd also need to value public use somehow. Hardy spends $800/day busing kids around the city for sports. That's $4K/week in season, or $80k/year, just for starters. Then how do you value the time that those kids spend riding the bus when they could be in class, studying, practicing or at home?

The underlying issue is that DPR did zero cost-benefit analysis before renewing the contract. Maret wanted it, so the Mayor wanted it, and that was that.

And since Maret keeps trying to take us back a decade and focus their argument on what they did 10 years ago as a justification for getting 10 (or 9) more let's do a bit more digging, shall we? This story really needs some seriously investigative reporting. Jack Evans is the center of this entire stinking situation and given his recent problem with the FBI, I'm guessing there are some threads to be pulled. Marjo Talbott was in place when the original easement contract was negotiated. Evans keeps trying to tell a tale that leaves out lots of info. I'm waiting patiently for the hearing file to get uploaded so that I can listen closely to every witness and most importantly, every utterance of Evans.

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Anonymous wrote:Maret claims it would “impossible” to increase the field space on their 7 acre campus. It would undoubtedly be difficult (I used to live in the neighborhood) but or course it’s not impossible. It would be no harder and far more just than the “solutions” the Maret people keep suggesting for Hardy.

+1 When they weren't busy ticking off their bullet points boo-hooing how they are victims of meanings on social media, Maret witnesses were so happy to blather on about alternatives and solutions. Gee thanks. Thanks for telling Hardy how it should install an underground parking lot and bulldoze all it's green space in order to build something new so that they can avoid having to share space that my tax dollars pay for.

The worst was the Maret dad who stated that he looked into how much it would cost to bury the parking lot under an expanded field at Hardy: "Based on my preliminary estimates and research, it will cost about $5 million dollars to build an underground parking garage and expand the field."

Yes, entitled asshat. Hardy has $5m just sitting around while you monpolize a piece of land that is easily worth $20m (which your school did not buy).

My favorite was the Maret person who explained that since Maret students live all over the city, it was necessary that their sports teams practice right after school and very near the school, because the Maret students needed to get home for dinner and homework.

Astounding.

Oh Maret is so bad unlike the Hardy parents land grab. The demographics of the IB schools to Hardy are some of the wealthiest in the city. So Georgetown’s and Palisade’s middle school gets a DPR recenter and field. The rest of DCPS middle schools get nothing. Even better DPR can pay for Hardy’s new facility. Maybe DPR can lay-off some more employees or cut programs East of the Park so Hardy can have a sport facility almost as big as Wilson has? DCPS will not spend one dime to maintain that facility.

DCPS and DPR are the same city government. Who pays for what is accounting. Hardy is a public school. Maret, a private school for families that have opted out of city schools, is not entitled to jump to the front of the line for public resources. Hardy parents may be in a land grab, but that’s a negotiation with the other city and city sponsored entities that are competing for resources. Maret, per city rules, doesn’t even rank in the discussion. So they called in chits and skipped the line. Bad look, not getting any better no matter how defensive they get.

Who pays for what is accounting?? Spoken like a person who has never ventured into real work. If they were the same, why create two agencies instead of one? It's because they serve two different purposes. DPR serves in the best interest of the PUBLIC not entitled Hardy middle school parents.

Hardy is a PUBLIC school. Maybe they don’t win in a fair allocation, but we don’t know that because there hasn’t been one. Maret definitely doesn’t. And, yes, who pays for what is accounting. My kids go to a DCPS school where the playground is DPR. It works.

The public is not the same as a public school. Maret wins the allocation because it has invested in the field and will maintain it for PUBLIC use. DCPS and Hardy school will not. DPR has to choose the one that best serves the interest of the public.

Can you please differentiate between the PUBLIC tax dollars that are allocated for DPR vs. those that are allocated for DCPS/Hardy and/or help the general PUBLIC understand the difference where their PUBLIC tax dollars go?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Check out Maret's new webpage devoted to their spin machine. This is priceless. Complete with charts and pictures. I'm guessing this was what was included in the "packet" their witnesses continuously referred to yesterday.

https://www.maret.org/athletics/jelleff

This is pathetic, let Maret buy the space for fair market value, use the money for capital investments elsewhere and be done with it. A sad spin by a bunch of entitled people digging in.

The Maret team are priviliged pieces of S who are used to bullying and getting their way and I’m sure they will again, but at least they’re getting called on it this time. Kudos to Dave McKenna for naming names.

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Anonymous wrote:Maret claims it would “impossible” to increase the field space on their 7 acre campus. It would undoubtedly be difficult (I used to live in the neighborhood) but or course it’s not impossible. It would be no harder and far more just than the “solutions” the Maret people keep suggesting for Hardy.

+1 When they weren't busy ticking off their bullet points boo-hooing how they are victims of meanings on social media, Maret witnesses were so happy to blather on about alternatives and solutions. Gee thanks. Thanks for telling Hardy how it should install an underground parking lot and bulldoze all it's green space in order to build something new so that they can avoid having to share space that my tax dollars pay for.

The worst was the Maret dad who stated that he looked into how much it would cost to bury the parking lot under an expanded field at Hardy: "Based on my preliminary estimates and research, it will cost about $5 million dollars to build an underground parking garage and expand the field."

Yes, entitled asshat. Hardy has $5m just sitting around while you monpolize a piece of land that is easily worth $20m (which your school did not buy).

My favorite was the Maret person who explained that since Maret students live all over the city, it was necessary that their sports teams practice right after school and very near the school, because the Maret students needed to get home for dinner and homework.

Astounding.

Oh Maret is so bad unlike the Hardy parents land grab. The demographics of the IB schools to Hardy are some of the wealthiest in the city. So Georgetown’s and Palisade’s middle school gets a DPR recenter and field. The rest of DCPS middle schools get nothing. Even better DPR can pay for Hardy’s new facility. Maybe DPR can lay-off some more employees or cut programs East of the Park so Hardy can have a sport facility almost as big as Wilson has? DCPS will not spend one dime to maintain that facility.

DCPS and DPR are the same city government. Who pays for what is accounting. Hardy is a public school. Maret, a private school for families that have opted out of city schools, is not entitled to jump to the front of the line for public resources. Hardy parents may be in a land grab, but that’s a negotiation with the other city and city sponsored entities that are competing for resources. Maret, per city rules, doesn’t even rank in the discussion. So they called in chits and skipped the line. Bad look, not getting any better no matter how defensive they get.

Who pays for what is accounting?? Spoken like a person who has never ventured into real work. If they were the same, why create two agencies instead of one? It's because they serve two different purposes. DPR serves in the best interest of the PUBLIC not entitled Hardy middle school parents.

Hardy is a PUBLIC school. Maybe they don’t win in a fair allocation, but we don’t know that because there hasn’t been one. Maret definitely doesn’t. And, yes, who pays for what is accounting. My kids go to a DCPS school where the playground is DPR. It works.

The public is not the same as a public school. Maret wins the allocation because it has invested in the field and will maintain it for PUBLIC use. DCPS and Hardy school will not. DPR has to choose the one that best serves the interest of the public.

As a DC taxpayer — we don’t want your charity, Maret. It’s not worth it. Go buy some land.