Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that Hamas continues to bomb Israel with rockets and they don't seem to care where they land.......
Or, maybe..... hitting civilian targets is part of their plan. After what they did on 10/7, this seems more likely.



Well maybe if Hamas collapsed the building and trapped these people it would be close to a whatabout. Israelis are targeting civilians blowing up hospitals, churches, school, aid supplies, etc. They have leveled most of north Gaza trapping civilians under the rumble. What religion would condone such violence against helpless civilians?


Israel is setting the rules that civilians are fair game.

They’ve been leveling Palestinian homes long before October.

I don’t understand the outrage that their adversary is following their lead.


10/7 didn’t happen then?


Huh? Nice strawman.

I just pointed out that Israel frequently bombed Palestinian homes BEFORE October 7th.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades. And they’re shocked that Hamas is fighting back the same way? Cry me a river.


Just going to point out that Hamas has been lobbing missiles at Israel for years now.
Do you expect them not to respond? You think it is ok for Hamas to continue to bomb Israel and Israel is just supposed to sit by and take it?


The way the Israeli military treats Palestinian civilians is the entire reason was elected in the first place.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians longer than most of us have been alive.


Do you really want to go back in history to the beginning of all of this?

Or would you rather continue to justify why Hamas is morally superior?


I don’t think Hamas is morally superior.

I think Hamas (or something like it) was inevitable given Israel’s treatment of Gaza. The Israeli military behaved like terrorists towards Palestinians. Of course, the Palestinians responded by electing their own terrorists to represent them and now they can’t get them out of power (much like Israelis can’t get Netanyahu out.)

This is a showdown between a terrorist state and a terrorist organization. As always, civilians are the ones who suffer.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that Hamas continues to bomb Israel with rockets and they don't seem to care where they land.......
Or, maybe..... hitting civilian targets is part of their plan. After what they did on 10/7, this seems more likely.



Well maybe if Hamas collapsed the building and trapped these people it would be close to a whatabout. Israelis are targeting civilians blowing up hospitals, churches, school, aid supplies, etc. They have leveled most of north Gaza trapping civilians under the rumble. What religion would condone such violence against helpless civilians?


Israel is setting the rules that civilians are fair game.

They’ve been leveling Palestinian homes long before October.

I don’t understand the outrage that their adversary is following their lead.


10/7 didn’t happen then?


Huh? Nice strawman.

I just pointed out that Israel frequently bombed Palestinian homes BEFORE October 7th.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades. And they’re shocked that Hamas is fighting back the same way? Cry me a river.


That's some grade A ugliness right there.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that Hamas continues to bomb Israel with rockets and they don't seem to care where they land.......
Or, maybe..... hitting civilian targets is part of their plan. After what they did on 10/7, this seems more likely.



Well maybe if Hamas collapsed the building and trapped these people it would be close to a whatabout. Israelis are targeting civilians blowing up hospitals, churches, school, aid supplies, etc. They have leveled most of north Gaza trapping civilians under the rumble. What religion would condone such violence against helpless civilians?


Israel is setting the rules that civilians are fair game.

They’ve been leveling Palestinian homes long before October.

I don’t understand the outrage that their adversary is following their lead.


10/7 didn’t happen then?


Huh? Nice strawman.

I just pointed out that Israel frequently bombed Palestinian homes BEFORE October 7th.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades. And they’re shocked that Hamas is fighting back the same way? Cry me a river.


Just going to point out that Hamas has been lobbing missiles at Israel for years now.
Do you expect them not to respond? You think it is ok for Hamas to continue to bomb Israel and Israel is just supposed to sit by and take it?


The way the Israeli military treats Palestinian civilians is the entire reason was elected in the first place.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians longer than most of us have been alive.


Do you really want to go back in history to the beginning of all of this?

Or would you rather continue to justify why Hamas is morally superior?


I don’t think Hamas is morally superior.

I think Hamas (or something like it) was inevitable given Israel’s treatment of Gaza. The Israeli military behaved like terrorists towards Palestinians. Of course, the Palestinians responded by electing their own terrorists to represent them and now they can’t get them out of power (much like Israelis can’t get Netanyahu out.)

This is a showdown between a terrorist state and a terrorist organization. As always, civilians are the ones who suffer.


+1

So many people on this thread so desperate to make Israel the good guy- there are no good guys right now.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that Hamas continues to bomb Israel with rockets and they don't seem to care where they land.......
Or, maybe..... hitting civilian targets is part of their plan. After what they did on 10/7, this seems more likely.



Well maybe if Hamas collapsed the building and trapped these people it would be close to a whatabout. Israelis are targeting civilians blowing up hospitals, churches, school, aid supplies, etc. They have leveled most of north Gaza trapping civilians under the rumble. What religion would condone such violence against helpless civilians?


Israel is setting the rules that civilians are fair game.

They’ve been leveling Palestinian homes long before October.

I don’t understand the outrage that their adversary is following their lead.


10/7 didn’t happen then?


Huh? Nice strawman.

I just pointed out that Israel frequently bombed Palestinian homes BEFORE October 7th.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades. And they’re shocked that Hamas is fighting back the same way? Cry me a river.


Just going to point out that Hamas has been lobbing missiles at Israel for years now.
Do you expect them not to respond? You think it is ok for Hamas to continue to bomb Israel and Israel is just supposed to sit by and take it?


The way the Israeli military treats Palestinian civilians is the entire reason was elected in the first place.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians longer than most of us have been alive.


Do you really want to go back in history to the beginning of all of this?

Or would you rather continue to justify why Hamas is morally superior?


I don’t think Hamas is morally superior.

I think Hamas (or something like it) was inevitable given Israel’s treatment of Gaza. The Israeli military behaved like terrorists towards Palestinians. Of course, the Palestinians responded by electing their own terrorists to represent them and now they can’t get them out of power (much like Israelis can’t get Netanyahu out.)

This is a showdown between a terrorist state and a terrorist organization. As always, civilians are the ones who suffer.


Hamas was founded in 1987, when the Israeli government was very different than it is now. Hamas is an outgrowth of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood.

Learn some history.
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It’s all there in Hamas’s charter, folks!
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Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that Hamas continues to bomb Israel with rockets and they don't seem to care where they land.......
Or, maybe..... hitting civilian targets is part of their plan. After what they did on 10/7, this seems more likely.



Well maybe if Hamas collapsed the building and trapped these people it would be close to a whatabout. Israelis are targeting civilians blowing up hospitals, churches, school, aid supplies, etc. They have leveled most of north Gaza trapping civilians under the rumble. What religion would condone such violence against helpless civilians?


Israel is setting the rules that civilians are fair game.

They’ve been leveling Palestinian homes long before October.

I don’t understand the outrage that their adversary is following their lead.


10/7 didn’t happen then?


Huh? Nice strawman.

I just pointed out that Israel frequently bombed Palestinian homes BEFORE October 7th.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades. And they’re shocked that Hamas is fighting back the same way? Cry me a river.


Just going to point out that Hamas has been lobbing missiles at Israel for years now.
Do you expect them not to respond? You think it is ok for Hamas to continue to bomb Israel and Israel is just supposed to sit by and take it?


The way the Israeli military treats Palestinian civilians is the entire reason was elected in the first place.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians longer than most of us have been alive.


Do you really want to go back in history to the beginning of all of this?

Or would you rather continue to justify why Hamas is morally superior?


I don’t think Hamas is morally superior.

I think Hamas (or something like it) was inevitable given Israel’s treatment of Gaza. The Israeli military behaved like terrorists towards Palestinians. Of course, the Palestinians responded by electing their own terrorists to represent them and now they can’t get them out of power (much like Israelis can’t get Netanyahu out.)

This is a showdown between a terrorist state and a terrorist organization. As always, civilians are the ones who suffer.


So what explains the Palestinian terrorism before the state of Israel even existed?

What explains the Grand Mufti's virulent anti-Semitism and support of Hitler during WWII?

I'm trying to decide whether your history or your logic is more flawed.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that Hamas continues to bomb Israel with rockets and they don't seem to care where they land.......
Or, maybe..... hitting civilian targets is part of their plan. After what they did on 10/7, this seems more likely.



Well maybe if Hamas collapsed the building and trapped these people it would be close to a whatabout. Israelis are targeting civilians blowing up hospitals, churches, school, aid supplies, etc. They have leveled most of north Gaza trapping civilians under the rumble. What religion would condone such violence against helpless civilians?


Israel is setting the rules that civilians are fair game.

They’ve been leveling Palestinian homes long before October.

I don’t understand the outrage that their adversary is following their lead.


10/7 didn’t happen then?


Huh? Nice strawman.

I just pointed out that Israel frequently bombed Palestinian homes BEFORE October 7th.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades. And they’re shocked that Hamas is fighting back the same way? Cry me a river.


Just going to point out that Hamas has been lobbing missiles at Israel for years now.
Do you expect them not to respond? You think it is ok for Hamas to continue to bomb Israel and Israel is just supposed to sit by and take it?


The way the Israeli military treats Palestinian civilians is the entire reason was elected in the first place.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians longer than most of us have been alive.


Do you really want to go back in history to the beginning of all of this?

Or would you rather continue to justify why Hamas is morally superior?


I don’t think Hamas is morally superior.

I think Hamas (or something like it) was inevitable given Israel’s treatment of Gaza. The Israeli military behaved like terrorists towards Palestinians. Of course, the Palestinians responded by electing their own terrorists to represent them and now they can’t get them out of power (much like Israelis can’t get Netanyahu out.)

This is a showdown between a terrorist state and a terrorist organization. As always, civilians are the ones who suffer.


+1

So many people on this thread so desperate to make Israel the good guy- there are no good guys right now.


Oh, I don’t know—I’m pretty certain those against Hamas are. I mean, heck, the US just placed additional economic sanctions on Hamas.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that Hamas continues to bomb Israel with rockets and they don't seem to care where they land.......
Or, maybe..... hitting civilian targets is part of their plan. After what they did on 10/7, this seems more likely.



Well maybe if Hamas collapsed the building and trapped these people it would be close to a whatabout. Israelis are targeting civilians blowing up hospitals, churches, school, aid supplies, etc. They have leveled most of north Gaza trapping civilians under the rumble. What religion would condone such violence against helpless civilians?


Israel is setting the rules that civilians are fair game.

They’ve been leveling Palestinian homes long before October.

I don’t understand the outrage that their adversary is following their lead.


10/7 didn’t happen then?


Huh? Nice strawman.

I just pointed out that Israel frequently bombed Palestinian homes BEFORE October 7th.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades. And they’re shocked that Hamas is fighting back the same way? Cry me a river.


Just going to point out that Hamas has been lobbing missiles at Israel for years now.
Do you expect them not to respond? You think it is ok for Hamas to continue to bomb Israel and Israel is just supposed to sit by and take it?


The way the Israeli military treats Palestinian civilians is the entire reason was elected in the first place.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians longer than most of us have been alive.


Do you really want to go back in history to the beginning of all of this?

Or would you rather continue to justify why Hamas is morally superior?


I don’t think Hamas is morally superior.

I think Hamas (or something like it) was inevitable given Israel’s treatment of Gaza. The Israeli military behaved like terrorists towards Palestinians. Of course, the Palestinians responded by electing their own terrorists to represent them and now they can’t get them out of power (much like Israelis can’t get Netanyahu out.)

This is a showdown between a terrorist state and a terrorist organization. As always, civilians are the ones who suffer.


DP.
What you are saying is that "Israel deserved it."
What you fail to say and recognize is that Israel has been repeatedly attacked by people living in Gaza, whether those people are Hamas or not.
And, it has been happening for years. The law to have safe rooms in residences in Israel goes back to 1992. And prior to that, according to the 1951 civil defense law, all homes, residential buildings and industrial buildings in Israel were required to have bomb shelters.

You don't have safe rooms and bomb shelters in every residence for kicks.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that Hamas continues to bomb Israel with rockets and they don't seem to care where they land.......
Or, maybe..... hitting civilian targets is part of their plan. After what they did on 10/7, this seems more likely.



Well maybe if Hamas collapsed the building and trapped these people it would be close to a whatabout. Israelis are targeting civilians blowing up hospitals, churches, school, aid supplies, etc. They have leveled most of north Gaza trapping civilians under the rumble. What religion would condone such violence against helpless civilians?


Israel is setting the rules that civilians are fair game.

They’ve been leveling Palestinian homes long before October.

I don’t understand the outrage that their adversary is following their lead.


10/7 didn’t happen then?


Huh? Nice strawman.

I just pointed out that Israel frequently bombed Palestinian homes BEFORE October 7th.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades. And they’re shocked that Hamas is fighting back the same way? Cry me a river.


That's some grade A ugliness right there.


It’s gross to pretend that terrorism is only terrible when it happens to people like you. Israel has already slaughtered more children than the number of people Hamas killed. I refuse to pretend that Israeli terrorism is okay, while condemning Hamas terrorism.

THAT is the real ugliness.

You’re okay with genocide.

You’re okay with ethnic cleansing.

As long as it only happens to people different than you.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that Hamas continues to bomb Israel with rockets and they don't seem to care where they land.......
Or, maybe..... hitting civilian targets is part of their plan. After what they did on 10/7, this seems more likely.



Well maybe if Hamas collapsed the building and trapped these people it would be close to a whatabout. Israelis are targeting civilians blowing up hospitals, churches, school, aid supplies, etc. They have leveled most of north Gaza trapping civilians under the rumble. What religion would condone such violence against helpless civilians?


Israel is setting the rules that civilians are fair game.

They’ve been leveling Palestinian homes long before October.

I don’t understand the outrage that their adversary is following their lead.


10/7 didn’t happen then?


Huh? Nice strawman.

I just pointed out that Israel frequently bombed Palestinian homes BEFORE October 7th.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades. And they’re shocked that Hamas is fighting back the same way? Cry me a river.


That's some grade A ugliness right there.


It’s gross to pretend that terrorism is only terrible when it happens to people like you. Israel has already slaughtered more children than the number of people Hamas killed. I refuse to pretend that Israeli terrorism is okay, while condemning Hamas terrorism.

THAT is the real ugliness.

You’re okay with genocide.

You’re okay with ethnic cleansing.

As long as it only happens to people different than you.



No one has said that. You’re the one saying “cry me a river” when a rocket hits an apartment building in Israel.
Anonymous
IDF claims to have strong evidence of Hamas' use of hospitals for military purposes. Seems like a violation of medical ethics, if true?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that Hamas continues to bomb Israel with rockets and they don't seem to care where they land.......
Or, maybe..... hitting civilian targets is part of their plan. After what they did on 10/7, this seems more likely.



Well maybe if Hamas collapsed the building and trapped these people it would be close to a whatabout. Israelis are targeting civilians blowing up hospitals, churches, school, aid supplies, etc. They have leveled most of north Gaza trapping civilians under the rumble. What religion would condone such violence against helpless civilians?


Israel is setting the rules that civilians are fair game.

They’ve been leveling Palestinian homes long before October.

I don’t understand the outrage that their adversary is following their lead.


10/7 didn’t happen then?


Huh? Nice strawman.

I just pointed out that Israel frequently bombed Palestinian homes BEFORE October 7th.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades. And they’re shocked that Hamas is fighting back the same way? Cry me a river.


That's some grade A ugliness right there.


It’s gross to pretend that terrorism is only terrible when it happens to people like you. Israel has already slaughtered more children than the number of people Hamas killed. I refuse to pretend that Israeli terrorism is okay, while condemning Hamas terrorism.

THAT is the real ugliness.

You’re okay with genocide.

You’re okay with ethnic cleansing.

As long as it only happens to people different than you.



No one has said that. You’re the one saying “cry me a river” when a rocket hits an apartment building in Israel.


A rocket hit an apartment building and nobody was hurt. This is blowing up as evidence of Hamas cruelty while Israel bombs and kills countless children in Gaza.

Cry me a f***ing river over the damaged apartment.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that Hamas continues to bomb Israel with rockets and they don't seem to care where they land.......
Or, maybe..... hitting civilian targets is part of their plan. After what they did on 10/7, this seems more likely.



Well maybe if Hamas collapsed the building and trapped these people it would be close to a whatabout. Israelis are targeting civilians blowing up hospitals, churches, school, aid supplies, etc. They have leveled most of north Gaza trapping civilians under the rumble. What religion would condone such violence against helpless civilians?


Israel is setting the rules that civilians are fair game.

They’ve been leveling Palestinian homes long before October.

I don’t understand the outrage that their adversary is following their lead.


10/7 didn’t happen then?


Huh? Nice strawman.

I just pointed out that Israel frequently bombed Palestinian homes BEFORE October 7th.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades. And they’re shocked that Hamas is fighting back the same way? Cry me a river.


That's some grade A ugliness right there.


It’s gross to pretend that terrorism is only terrible when it happens to people like you. Israel has already slaughtered more children than the number of people Hamas killed. I refuse to pretend that Israeli terrorism is okay, while condemning Hamas terrorism.

THAT is the real ugliness.

You’re okay with genocide.

You’re okay with ethnic cleansing.

As long as it only happens to people different than you.



You have no idea what my position is on any of these issues.

Your ugliness and inhumanity discredits the Palestinian cause.






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Anonymous wrote:Let's remember that Hamas continues to bomb Israel with rockets and they don't seem to care where they land.......
Or, maybe..... hitting civilian targets is part of their plan. After what they did on 10/7, this seems more likely.



Well maybe if Hamas collapsed the building and trapped these people it would be close to a whatabout. Israelis are targeting civilians blowing up hospitals, churches, school, aid supplies, etc. They have leveled most of north Gaza trapping civilians under the rumble. What religion would condone such violence against helpless civilians?


Israel is setting the rules that civilians are fair game.

They’ve been leveling Palestinian homes long before October.

I don’t understand the outrage that their adversary is following their lead.


10/7 didn’t happen then?


Huh? Nice strawman.

I just pointed out that Israel frequently bombed Palestinian homes BEFORE October 7th.

Israel has been killing Palestinian civilians for decades. And they’re shocked that Hamas is fighting back the same way? Cry me a river.


That's some grade A ugliness right there.


It’s gross to pretend that terrorism is only terrible when it happens to people like you. Israel has already slaughtered more children than the number of people Hamas killed. I refuse to pretend that Israeli terrorism is okay, while condemning Hamas terrorism.

THAT is the real ugliness.

You’re okay with genocide.

You’re okay with ethnic cleansing.

As long as it only happens to people different than you.



No one has said that. You’re the one saying “cry me a river” when a rocket hits an apartment building in Israel.


A rocket hit an apartment building and nobody was hurt. This is blowing up as evidence of Hamas cruelty while Israel bombs and kills countless children in Gaza.

Cry me a f***ing river over the damaged apartment.


Actually, 3 civilians were injured this morning by a missile fired from Gaza and the top floor of an apartment building was destroyed.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:IDF claims to have strong evidence of Hamas' use of hospitals for military purposes. Seems like a violation of medical ethics, if true?


Who is there to fact-check IDF?

Why do IDF press releases count for news?
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