What is going on with student loans?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is voting Republican because of the student loan forgiveness. That’s just a more acceptable justification than admitting they support bigotry and fascism.

I'm not aware of a single Republican who votes for Republicans to support bigotry and fascism. You must live in a strange place! MSNBC studios?

Look at your Republican House members. They are majority bigots and fascists and delusional idiots, proven from their own mouths and votes. Look at your governors. Most of them run on shutting up Blacks and LGBT and immigrants and keeping them in their place with a fascist police state. There’s also the cronyism and corruption.

Well, well, well.
I can see that as we move toward the midterms and the chances of the Democrats retaining the House are nearly zilch and the chances of Democrats holding the Senate are slipping away, we will get more and more of these inflammatory accusations with no basis in reality.
We get that you can't stand Republicans. It is going to be a mighty tough few years for you.

Oh, and the "facism" moniker is old and tired. Another attack line that has no basis in reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is voting Republican because of the student loan forgiveness. That’s just a more acceptable justification than admitting they support bigotry and fascism.

I'm not aware of a single Republican who votes for Republicans to support bigotry and fascism. You must live in a strange place! MSNBC studios?

Look at your Republican House members. They are majority bigots and fascists and delusional idiots, proven from their own mouths and votes. Look at your governors. Most of them run on shutting up Blacks and LGBT and immigrants and keeping them in their place with a fascist police state. There’s also the cronyism and corruption.

Well, well, well.
I can see that as we move toward the midterms and the chances of the Democrats retaining the House are nearly zilch and the chances of Democrats holding the Senate are slipping away, we will get more and more of these inflammatory accusations with no basis in reality.
We get that you can't stand Republicans. It is going to be a mighty tough few years for you.

Oh, and the "facism" moniker is old and tired. Another attack line that has no basis in reality.

Look at the jackasses you are voting for. How could you support them if you are not very much okay with bigotry and fascism?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is voting Republican because of the student loan forgiveness. That’s just a more acceptable justification than admitting they support bigotry and fascism.

I'm not aware of a single Republican who votes for Republicans to support bigotry and fascism. You must live in a strange place! MSNBC studios?

Look at your Republican House members. They are majority bigots and fascists and delusional idiots, proven from their own mouths and votes. Look at your governors. Most of them run on shutting up Blacks and LGBT and immigrants and keeping them in their place with a fascist police state. There’s also the cronyism and corruption.

Well, well, well.
I can see that as we move toward the midterms and the chances of the Democrats retaining the House are nearly zilch and the chances of Democrats holding the Senate are slipping away, we will get more and more of these inflammatory accusations with no basis in reality.
We get that you can't stand Republicans. It is going to be a mighty tough few years for you.

Oh, and the "facism" moniker is old and tired. Another attack line that has no basis in reality.

Your leader organized a fascist coup attempt and the majority of House Republicans voted to throw out election results certified by states. That is fascism. Embrace it. You support fascists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is voting Republican because of the student loan forgiveness. That’s just a more acceptable justification than admitting they support bigotry and fascism.

I'm not aware of a single Republican who votes for Republicans to support bigotry and fascism. You must live in a strange place! MSNBC studios?

Look at your Republican House members. They are majority bigots and fascists and delusional idiots, proven from their own mouths and votes. Look at your governors. Most of them run on shutting up Blacks and LGBT and immigrants and keeping them in their place with a fascist police state. There’s also the cronyism and corruption.

Well, well, well.
I can see that as we move toward the midterms and the chances of the Democrats retaining the House are nearly zilch and the chances of Democrats holding the Senate are slipping away, we will get more and more of these inflammatory accusations with no basis in reality.
We get that you can't stand Republicans. It is going to be a mighty tough few years for you.

Oh, and the "facism" moniker is old and tired. Another attack line that has no basis in reality.

Your leader organized a fascist coup attempt and the majority of House Republicans voted to throw out election results certified by states. That is fascism. Embrace it. You support fascists.

Everything you wrote is an outright lie. Where in the hell do you get your information?

[Anonymous]

Getting this thread back on topic.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Loans were forgiven because they were given out with the intent of keeping people on payrolls from being fired- they were not really loans. The student loans were given out with the intent they would be paid back, and the government was getting the students a good deal on interest rates.

In other words, the PPP was intended as a massive give-away to businesses with no oversight or accountability, so it can’t be criticized. You say the purpose was to keep employees on payrolls but many of the did layoff or furlough their employees but got to keep the PPP money and the government also paid unemployment benefits to their laid off workers. You are right that it is not the same as student loan forgiveness, PPP was much worse in every way.

PPP was also given to churches. Mine got over $1M.

The PPP is a good example of how much the government is bullshit, stupid, and run by a bunch of grifters. And another reason we should keep them out of as much of our lives as possible.

Can you believe I go to an evangelical conservative church? Lol...the hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

Good news.

"Whether the Program constitutes good public policy is not the role of this Court to determine. Still, no one can plausibly deny that it is either one of the largest delegations of legislative power to the executive branch, or one of the largest exercises of legislative power without congressional authority in the history of the
United States," United States District Judge Mark Pittman wrote.

"In this country, we are not ruled by an all-powerful executive with a pen and a phone. Instead, we are ruled by a Constitution that provides for three distinct and independent branches of government…The Court is not blind to the current political division in our country. But it is fundamental to the survival of our Republic that the separation of powers as outlined in our Constitution be preserved. And having interpreted the HEROES Act, the Court holds that it does not provide ‘clear congressional authorization’ for the Program proposed by the Secretary,"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good news.

"Whether the Program constitutes good public policy is not the role of this Court to determine. Still, no one can plausibly deny that it is either one of the largest delegations of legislative power to the executive branch, or one of the largest exercises of legislative power without congressional authority in the history of the
United States," United States District Judge Mark Pittman wrote.

"In this country, we are not ruled by an all-powerful executive with a pen and a phone. Instead, we are ruled by a Constitution that provides for three distinct and independent branches of government…The Court is not blind to the current political division in our country. But it is fundamental to the survival of our Republic that the separation of powers as outlined in our Constitution be preserved. And having interpreted the HEROES Act, the Court holds that it does not provide ‘clear congressional authorization’ for the Program proposed by the Secretary,"

What ridiculous nonsense. Of course Congress can delegate. And of course the student loan forgiveness falls under the HEROES Act.

Courts should be ashamed of themselves for pushing this nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good news.

"Whether the Program constitutes good public policy is not the role of this Court to determine. Still, no one can plausibly deny that it is either one of the largest delegations of legislative power to the executive branch, or one of the largest exercises of legislative power without congressional authority in the history of the
United States," United States District Judge Mark Pittman wrote.

"In this country, we are not ruled by an all-powerful executive with a pen and a phone. Instead, we are ruled by a Constitution that provides for three distinct and independent branches of government…The Court is not blind to the current political division in our country. But it is fundamental to the survival of our Republic that the separation of powers as outlined in our Constitution be preserved. And having interpreted the HEROES Act, the Court holds that it does not provide ‘clear congressional authorization’ for the Program proposed by the Secretary,"

What ridiculous nonsense. Of course Congress can delegate. And of course the student loan forgiveness falls under the HEROES Act.

Courts should be ashamed of themselves for pushing this nonsense.

When is America going to wake up to the clear conflict of interest that is the Federalist Society and the entire network of Koch funded sham think tanks behind it? They are bankrolling litigation going in front of their member judges. The results are tortured and torturous and undermining faith in the rule of law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good news.

"Whether the Program constitutes good public policy is not the role of this Court to determine. Still, no one can plausibly deny that it is either one of the largest delegations of legislative power to the executive branch, or one of the largest exercises of legislative power without congressional authority in the history of the
United States," United States District Judge Mark Pittman wrote.

"In this country, we are not ruled by an all-powerful executive with a pen and a phone. Instead, we are ruled by a Constitution that provides for three distinct and independent branches of government…The Court is not blind to the current political division in our country. But it is fundamental to the survival of our Republic that the separation of powers as outlined in our Constitution be preserved. And having interpreted the HEROES Act, the Court holds that it does not provide ‘clear congressional authorization’ for the Program proposed by the Secretary,"

What ridiculous nonsense. Of course Congress can delegate. And of course the student loan forgiveness falls under the HEROES Act.

Courts should be ashamed of themselves for pushing this nonsense.

When is America going to wake up to the clear conflict of interest that is the Federalist Society and the entire network of Koch funded sham think tanks behind it? They are bankrolling litigation going in front of their member judges. The results are tortured and torturous and undermining faith in the rule of law.

When is Biden going to wake up the fact that we have 3 branches of government and that committing tax payer money in this way is outright illegal? This needs to be passed by Congress, not with a swipe of a pen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good news.

"Whether the Program constitutes good public policy is not the role of this Court to determine. Still, no one can plausibly deny that it is either one of the largest delegations of legislative power to the executive branch, or one of the largest exercises of legislative power without congressional authority in the history of the
United States," United States District Judge Mark Pittman wrote.

"In this country, we are not ruled by an all-powerful executive with a pen and a phone. Instead, we are ruled by a Constitution that provides for three distinct and independent branches of government…The Court is not blind to the current political division in our country. But it is fundamental to the survival of our Republic that the separation of powers as outlined in our Constitution be preserved. And having interpreted the HEROES Act, the Court holds that it does not provide ‘clear congressional authorization’ for the Program proposed by the Secretary,"

What ridiculous nonsense. Of course Congress can delegate. And of course the student loan forgiveness falls under the HEROES Act.

Courts should be ashamed of themselves for pushing this nonsense.

When is America going to wake up to the clear conflict of interest that is the Federalist Society and the entire network of Koch funded sham think tanks behind it? They are bankrolling litigation going in front of their member judges. The results are tortured and torturous and undermining faith in the rule of law.

When is Biden going to wake up the fact that we have 3 branches of government and that committing tax payer money in this way is outright illegal? This needs to be passed by Congress, not with a swipe of a pen.

The only thing that's happening here is that he will extend the pause and that will make people even more mad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good news.

"Whether the Program constitutes good public policy is not the role of this Court to determine. Still, no one can plausibly deny that it is either one of the largest delegations of legislative power to the executive branch, or one of the largest exercises of legislative power without congressional authority in the history of the
United States," United States District Judge Mark Pittman wrote.

"In this country, we are not ruled by an all-powerful executive with a pen and a phone. Instead, we are ruled by a Constitution that provides for three distinct and independent branches of government…The Court is not blind to the current political division in our country. But it is fundamental to the survival of our Republic that the separation of powers as outlined in our Constitution be preserved. And having interpreted the HEROES Act, the Court holds that it does not provide ‘clear congressional authorization’ for the Program proposed by the Secretary,"

What ridiculous nonsense. Of course Congress can delegate. And of course the student loan forgiveness falls under the HEROES Act.

Courts should be ashamed of themselves for pushing this nonsense.

When is America going to wake up to the clear conflict of interest that is the Federalist Society and the entire network of Koch funded sham think tanks behind it? They are bankrolling litigation going in front of their member judges. The results are tortured and torturous and undermining faith in the rule of law.

When is Biden going to wake up the fact that we have 3 branches of government and that committing tax payer money in this way is outright illegal? This needs to be passed by Congress, not with a swipe of a pen.

The only thing that's happening here is that he will extend the pause and that will make people even more mad.

He has no reason to extend it anymore. Midterms are done. Suckers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good news.

"Whether the Program constitutes good public policy is not the role of this Court to determine. Still, no one can plausibly deny that it is either one of the largest delegations of legislative power to the executive branch, or one of the largest exercises of legislative power without congressional authority in the history of the
United States," United States District Judge Mark Pittman wrote.

"In this country, we are not ruled by an all-powerful executive with a pen and a phone. Instead, we are ruled by a Constitution that provides for three distinct and independent branches of government…The Court is not blind to the current political division in our country. But it is fundamental to the survival of our Republic that the separation of powers as outlined in our Constitution be preserved. And having interpreted the HEROES Act, the Court holds that it does not provide ‘clear congressional authorization’ for the Program proposed by the Secretary,"

What ridiculous nonsense. Of course Congress can delegate. And of course the student loan forgiveness falls under the HEROES Act.

Courts should be ashamed of themselves for pushing this nonsense.

When is America going to wake up to the clear conflict of interest that is the Federalist Society and the entire network of Koch funded sham think tanks behind it? They are bankrolling litigation going in front of their member judges. The results are tortured and torturous and undermining faith in the rule of law.

When is Biden going to wake up the fact that we have 3 branches of government and that committing tax payer money in this way is outright illegal? This needs to be passed by Congress, not with a swipe of a pen.

The only thing that's happening here is that he will extend the pause and that will make people even more mad.

He has no reason to extend it anymore. Midterms are done. Suckers.

Trust me he will extend it. He says he's running for President. Can't back out now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is voting Republican because of the student loan forgiveness. That’s just a more acceptable justification than admitting they support bigotry and fascism.

I'm not aware of a single Republican who votes for Republicans to support bigotry and fascism. You must live in a strange place! MSNBC studios?

Look at your Republican House members. They are majority bigots and fascists and delusional idiots, proven from their own mouths and votes. Look at your governors. Most of them run on shutting up Blacks and LGBT and immigrants and keeping them in their place with a fascist police state. There’s also the cronyism and corruption.

Well, well, well.
I can see that as we move toward the midterms and the chances of the Democrats retaining the House are nearly zilch and the chances of Democrats holding the Senate are slipping away, we will get more and more of these inflammatory accusations with no basis in reality.
We get that you can't stand Republicans. It is going to be a mighty tough few years for you.

Oh, and the "facism" moniker is old and tired. Another attack line that has no basis in reality.

Look at the jackasses you are voting for. How could you support them if you are not very much okay with bigotry and fascism?

You present as utterly unhinged. Seek genuine help and spend less time making hysterical comments on some idiotic mommy board. Seriously, you need to examine your life because you seems completely crazed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good news.

"Whether the Program constitutes good public policy is not the role of this Court to determine. Still, no one can plausibly deny that it is either one of the largest delegations of legislative power to the executive branch, or one of the largest exercises of legislative power without congressional authority in the history of the
United States," United States District Judge Mark Pittman wrote.

"In this country, we are not ruled by an all-powerful executive with a pen and a phone. Instead, we are ruled by a Constitution that provides for three distinct and independent branches of government…The Court is not blind to the current political division in our country. But it is fundamental to the survival of our Republic that the separation of powers as outlined in our Constitution be preserved. And having interpreted the HEROES Act, the Court holds that it does not provide ‘clear congressional authorization’ for the Program proposed by the Secretary,"

What ridiculous nonsense. Of course Congress can delegate. And of course the student loan forgiveness falls under the HEROES Act.

Courts should be ashamed of themselves for pushing this nonsense.

When is America going to wake up to the clear conflict of interest that is the Federalist Society and the entire network of Koch funded sham think tanks behind it? They are bankrolling litigation going in front of their member judges. The results are tortured and torturous and undermining faith in the rule of law.

When is Biden going to wake up the fact that we have 3 branches of government and that committing tax payer money in this way is outright illegal? This needs to be passed by Congress, not with a swipe of a pen.

The only thing that's happening here is that he will extend the pause and that will make people even more mad.

He has no reason to extend it anymore. Midterms are done. Suckers.

Trust me he will extend it. He says he's running for President. Can't back out now.

Believe me, they are looking into every alternative option. If a blanket forgiveness won’t work, you go case by case, file by file, and settle for pennies on the dollar. Let the Kochites have their debt slavery. Maybe someday Trump will invite them to the club to thank them for their patriotism in paying their debts. /s