ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:Please explain how jumping in front of a car and shooting at the driver's face is going to increase the safety of the shooter or any bystander.

There was no "jumping in front of the car".

The ICE agents were preparing to arrest the decedent. The ICE officer shooter had walked in front of the car, which was going in reverse, preparing to arrest her. The victim suddenly placed the car in drive, hit the accelerator in a reckless fashion, then hit the ICE agent with her vehicle (Honda Pilot).

One point of view is that the reckless driver attempting to escape law enforcement officers presented a danger to the community especially so after hitting an ICE agent with her SUV.

Unfortunately, people will interpret the video as they wish to support their political leanings.

Lawyers - do ICE agents have jurisdiction to arrest a someone for blocking a street lane? I am asking out of genuine curiousity.

Yes. Obstruction of justice; obstruction of a law enforcement officer in the performance of his/her duties.

Other cars went around her without problem. Why did this one stop and shoot her? What "justice" was being conducted by the officer that shot her at that time?

Why is she using her car to block and decide who gets by? is she in charge of traffic?

What does it matter? How does that even justify the second and third shots through the driver’s side window?

I 100% believe he was acting in self defense after watching the video, but I agree shots 2 and 3 were likely overkill. That being said, God knows what any of us would do in a potentially life threatening situation.

[Anonymous]

How was she supposed to know that they were ICE agents?

As a woman, I would be TERRIFIED if masked men tried to open my car door and pull me out. I would absolutely try to drive away from them and get to safety.

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Anonymous wrote:Please explain how jumping in front of a car and shooting at the driver's face is going to increase the safety of the shooter or any bystander.

There was no "jumping in front of the car".

The ICE agents were preparing to arrest the decedent. The ICE officer shooter had walked in front of the car, which was going in reverse, preparing to arrest her. The victim suddenly placed the car in drive, hit the accelerator in a reckless fashion, then hit the ICE agent with her vehicle (Honda Pilot).

One point of view is that the reckless driver attempting to escape law enforcement officers presented a danger to the community especially so after hitting an ICE agent with her SUV.

Unfortunately, people will interpret the video as they wish to support their political leanings.

Lawyers - do ICE agents have jurisdiction to arrest a someone for blocking a street lane? I am asking out of genuine curiousity.

Yes. Obstruction of justice; obstruction of a law enforcement officer in the performance of his/her duties.

Other cars went around her without problem. Why did this one stop and shoot her? What "justice" was being conducted by the officer that shot her at that time?

Why is she using her car to block and decide who gets by? is she in charge of traffic?

What does it matter? How does that even justify the second and third shots through the driver’s side window?

I 100% believe he was acting in self defense after watching the video, but I agree shots 2 and 3 were likely overkill. That being said, God knows what any of us would do in a potentially life threatening situation.

He didn't need to shoot to take a minor step to the side.

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Anonymous wrote:Please explain how jumping in front of a car and shooting at the driver's face is going to increase the safety of the shooter or any bystander.

There was no "jumping in front of the car".

The ICE agents were preparing to arrest the decedent. The ICE officer shooter had walked in front of the car, which was going in reverse, preparing to arrest her. The victim suddenly placed the car in drive, hit the accelerator in a reckless fashion, then hit the ICE agent with her vehicle (Honda Pilot).

One point of view is that the reckless driver attempting to escape law enforcement officers presented a danger to the community especially so after hitting an ICE agent with her SUV.

Unfortunately, people will interpret the video as they wish to support their political leanings.

Lawyers - do ICE agents have jurisdiction to arrest a someone for blocking a street lane? I am asking out of genuine curiousity.

Yes. Obstruction of justice; obstruction of a law enforcement officer in the performance of his/her duties.

Other cars went around her without problem. Why did this one stop and shoot her? What "justice" was being conducted by the officer that shot her at that time?

Why is she using her car to block and decide who gets by? is she in charge of traffic?

What does it matter? How does that even justify the second and third shots through the driver’s side window?

I 100% believe he was acting in self defense after watching the video, but I agree shots 2 and 3 were likely overkill. That being said, God knows what any of us would do in a potentially life threatening situation.

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Anonymous wrote:The highly aggressive manner in which the driver of the pickup approached her vehicle was startling - I could easily imagine someone in her shoes legitimately fearing for her life (from this non-informed individual attacking her) and just trying to get away to safety.

Exactly, that clown clearly had bad intentions.

Right. The other cars were able to drive around her, but this guy just stops, gets out, and screams at her to "open the [effing] door".

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Anonymous wrote:Please explain how jumping in front of a car and shooting at the driver's face is going to increase the safety of the shooter or any bystander.

There was no "jumping in front of the car".

The ICE agents were preparing to arrest the decedent. The ICE officer shooter had walked in front of the car, which was going in reverse, preparing to arrest her. The victim suddenly placed the car in drive, hit the accelerator in a reckless fashion, then hit the ICE agent with her vehicle (Honda Pilot).

One point of view is that the reckless driver attempting to escape law enforcement officers presented a danger to the community especially so after hitting an ICE agent with her SUV.

Unfortunately, people will interpret the video as they wish to support their political leanings.

Lawyers - do ICE agents have jurisdiction to arrest a someone for blocking a street lane? I am asking out of genuine curiousity.

Yes. Obstruction of justice; obstruction of a law enforcement officer in the performance of his/her duties.

Other cars went around her without problem. Why did this one stop and shoot her? What "justice" was being conducted by the officer that shot her at that time?

Why is she using her car to block and decide who gets by? is she in charge of traffic?

What does it matter? How does that even justify the second and third shots through the driver’s side window?

I 100% believe he was acting in self defense after watching the video, but I agree shots 2 and 3 were likely overkill. That being said, God knows what any of us would do in a potentially life threatening situation.

But he wasn’t “any of us.” He was and LEO with specific training for exactly these types of situations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please explain how jumping in front of a car and shooting at the driver's face is going to increase the safety of the shooter or any bystander.

There was no "jumping in front of the car".

The ICE agents were preparing to arrest the decedent. The ICE officer shooter had walked in front of the car, which was going in reverse, preparing to arrest her. The victim suddenly placed the car in drive, hit the accelerator in a reckless fashion, then hit the ICE agent with her vehicle (Honda Pilot).

One point of view is that the reckless driver attempting to escape law enforcement officers presented a danger to the community especially so after hitting an ICE agent with her SUV.

Unfortunately, people will interpret the video as they wish to support their political leanings.

Lawyers - do ICE agents have jurisdiction to arrest a someone for blocking a street lane? I am asking out of genuine curiousity.

Yes. Obstruction of justice; obstruction of a law enforcement officer in the performance of his/her duties.

Other cars went around her without problem. Why did this one stop and shoot her? What "justice" was being conducted by the officer that shot her at that time?

Why is she using her car to block and decide who gets by? is she in charge of traffic?

What does it matter? How does that even justify the second and third shots through the driver’s side window?

How many time are you allowed to fire if someone is trying to kill you with their car?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please explain how jumping in front of a car and shooting at the driver's face is going to increase the safety of the shooter or any bystander.

There was no "jumping in front of the car".

The ICE agents were preparing to arrest the decedent. The ICE officer shooter had walked in front of the car, which was going in reverse, preparing to arrest her. The victim suddenly placed the car in drive, hit the accelerator in a reckless fashion, then hit the ICE agent with her vehicle (Honda Pilot).

One point of view is that the reckless driver attempting to escape law enforcement officers presented a danger to the community especially so after hitting an ICE agent with her SUV.

Unfortunately, people will interpret the video as they wish to support their political leanings.

Lawyers - do ICE agents have jurisdiction to arrest a someone for blocking a street lane? I am asking out of genuine curiousity.

Yes. Obstruction of justice; obstruction of a law enforcement officer in the performance of his/her duties.

Other cars went around her without problem. Why did this one stop and shoot her? What "justice" was being conducted by the officer that shot her at that time?

Why is she using her car to block and decide who gets by? is she in charge of traffic?

What does it matter? How does that even justify the second and third shots through the driver’s side window?

How many time are you allowed to fire if someone is trying to kill you with their car?

While they are driving away from you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please explain how jumping in front of a car and shooting at the driver's face is going to increase the safety of the shooter or any bystander.

There was no "jumping in front of the car".

The ICE agents were preparing to arrest the decedent. The ICE officer shooter had walked in front of the car, which was going in reverse, preparing to arrest her. The victim suddenly placed the car in drive, hit the accelerator in a reckless fashion, then hit the ICE agent with her vehicle (Honda Pilot).

One point of view is that the reckless driver attempting to escape law enforcement officers presented a danger to the community especially so after hitting an ICE agent with her SUV.

Unfortunately, people will interpret the video as they wish to support their political leanings.

Lawyers - do ICE agents have jurisdiction to arrest a someone for blocking a street lane? I am asking out of genuine curiousity.

Yes. Obstruction of justice; obstruction of a law enforcement officer in the performance of his/her duties.

Other cars went around her without problem. Why did this one stop and shoot her? What "justice" was being conducted by the officer that shot her at that time?

Why is she using her car to block and decide who gets by? is she in charge of traffic?

What does it matter? How does that even justify the second and third shots through the driver’s side window?

How many time are you allowed to fire if someone is trying to kill you with their car?

Let's find a case where somebody was trying to kill somebody with a car and we can discuss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please explain how jumping in front of a car and shooting at the driver's face is going to increase the safety of the shooter or any bystander.

There was no "jumping in front of the car".

The ICE agents were preparing to arrest the decedent. The ICE officer shooter had walked in front of the car, which was going in reverse, preparing to arrest her. The victim suddenly placed the car in drive, hit the accelerator in a reckless fashion, then hit the ICE agent with her vehicle (Honda Pilot).

One point of view is that the reckless driver attempting to escape law enforcement officers presented a danger to the community especially so after hitting an ICE agent with her SUV.

Unfortunately, people will interpret the video as they wish to support their political leanings.

Lawyers - do ICE agents have jurisdiction to arrest a someone for blocking a street lane? I am asking out of genuine curiousity.

Yes. Obstruction of justice; obstruction of a law enforcement officer in the performance of his/her duties.

Other cars went around her without problem. Why did this one stop and shoot her? What "justice" was being conducted by the officer that shot her at that time?

Why is she using her car to block and decide who gets by? is she in charge of traffic?

What does it matter? How does that even justify the second and third shots through the driver’s side window?

How many time are you allowed to fire if someone is trying to kill you with their car?

LEO training says zero times. Do not shoot at a moving/fleeing vehicle or person.

[Anonymous]

Both her ex-husband and mother said she was not an ICE activist, and CBS is reporting she just moved to MN and had just dropped off her kid at school.

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Anonymous wrote:Please explain how jumping in front of a car and shooting at the driver's face is going to increase the safety of the shooter or any bystander.

There was no "jumping in front of the car".

The ICE agents were preparing to arrest the decedent. The ICE officer shooter had walked in front of the car, which was going in reverse, preparing to arrest her. The victim suddenly placed the car in drive, hit the accelerator in a reckless fashion, then hit the ICE agent with her vehicle (Honda Pilot).

One point of view is that the reckless driver attempting to escape law enforcement officers presented a danger to the community especially so after hitting an ICE agent with her SUV.

Unfortunately, people will interpret the video as they wish to support their political leanings.

Lawyers - do ICE agents have jurisdiction to arrest a someone for blocking a street lane? I am asking out of genuine curiousity.

Yes. Obstruction of justice; obstruction of a law enforcement officer in the performance of his/her duties.

Other cars went around her without problem. Why did this one stop and shoot her? What "justice" was being conducted by the officer that shot her at that time?

Why is she using her car to block and decide who gets by? is she in charge of traffic?

What does it matter? How does that even justify the second and third shots through the driver’s side window?

How many time are you allowed to fire if someone is trying to kill you with their car?

LEO training says zero times. Do not shoot at a moving/fleeing vehicle or person.

In that split second he had no idea if she was fleeing or trying to hit him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fleeing is illegal, and it is more illegal if you have to drive into an ICE agent to do it, which she did. And if he had been a mind reader, he would have known she was fleeing, but instead, all the information he had was that a criminal suspect was driving her car into him at the moment.

The only illegal thing she did was a driving infraction. It’s not the job of ICE to enforce traffic laws. The ICE agent clearly was able to drive around the woman’s car because he drove around her then got out and walked back to her.

He should have called 911 to report a vehicle in the road. He had no reason to suspect an illegal immigrant which is the only thing he’s supposed to be investigating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please explain how jumping in front of a car and shooting at the driver's face is going to increase the safety of the shooter or any bystander.

There was no "jumping in front of the car".

The ICE agents were preparing to arrest the decedent. The ICE officer shooter had walked in front of the car, which was going in reverse, preparing to arrest her. The victim suddenly placed the car in drive, hit the accelerator in a reckless fashion, then hit the ICE agent with her vehicle (Honda Pilot).

One point of view is that the reckless driver attempting to escape law enforcement officers presented a danger to the community especially so after hitting an ICE agent with her SUV.

Unfortunately, people will interpret the video as they wish to support their political leanings.

Lawyers - do ICE agents have jurisdiction to arrest a someone for blocking a street lane? I am asking out of genuine curiousity.

Yes. Obstruction of justice; obstruction of a law enforcement officer in the performance of his/her duties.

Other cars went around her without problem. Why did this one stop and shoot her? What "justice" was being conducted by the officer that shot her at that time?

Why is she using her car to block and decide who gets by? is she in charge of traffic?

What does it matter? How does that even justify the second and third shots through the driver’s side window?

How many time are you allowed to fire if someone is trying to kill you with their car?

Let's find a case where somebody was trying to kill somebody with a car and we can discuss.

There are hundreds of these cases of police acting in self-defense:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2006/06/14/alexandria-officer-who-shot-teen-is-not-charged-span-classbankheadaction-in-ihop-incident-deemed-reasonablespan/acfe0d69-6db6-4b37-9c0a-af32519b7267/

[Anonymous]

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