Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

[Anonymous]

I think they fired the special Ed oversight folk so Trump and friends can siphon off those funds

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Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?

That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.

agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.

i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.

they left at 3:30 because they got in at 7. WTF is wrong with you? Stop being intellectually dishonest.

And when they were asked to come up with five items they did every week they threw a fit. That is literally something most private sector workers are expected to do without even being asked. If my boss sat me down, and asked me what I completed over the last week (with no warning or time to prepare), I suspect he would be pretty damn disappointed if I could only list five items over the 40 hours of work I put in. It’s basic shit like that which makes it damn hard to have any compassion for these government workers.

Working for the government should be a great honor. Staff should be proud of the work they have done to help the American people. They should not have to even be asked to provide a list of what they did in the last week, they should be excited to share how they helped the American people. And it should be obvious anyway.

It’s stuff like this that makes the vast majority of Americans feel like there needs to be a reckoning, that those who are just in government for a paycheck, who aren’t proud of the job they have, who don’t want to be held accountable, to go and be replaced by people who do. People who aren’t happy to sit at home with their thumbs up their asses when the democrats shut down the government, and who insist on coming into work to support the American people regardless of what their supervisors say, and regardless of whether they will ever be paid for their work.[/quote]

Or they work in NSC and cybersecurity and cant explicitly list what they do...but you go ahead and think its because of throwing a fit. Nope, it was a fuc4ing landmine for a good percentage of our federal workforce because it was
a) being sent unsecured
b) being sent to unknown clearance
c) FUC5ing stupid to do because the SES and higher-level management was already having to make a case for keeping employees so it was duplicative work

As for the bolded, you are certifiably crazy. And if you arent a troll, it makes me highly concerned that you would even type those words out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?

That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.

agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.

i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.

they left at 3:30 because they got in at 7. WTF is wrong with you? Stop being intellectually dishonest.

Right, they arrive at 7am and do exactly nothing until 9am when people actually start sending and answering emails.

My JIRA and other things say otherwise. People in my shop are getting things done. Perhaps you are speaking for your own lazy ass.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?

That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.

agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.

i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.

they left at 3:30 because they got in at 7. WTF is wrong with you? Stop being intellectually dishonest.

Right, they arrive at 7am and do exactly nothing until 9am when people actually start sending and answering emails.

My JIRA and other things say otherwise. People in my shop are getting things done. Perhaps you are speaking for your own lazy ass.

+1. I was often most productive between 7 and 9 am when management wasn't around to bug me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How can Trump fly to Israel and do all these celebrations if the government is shut down? Who is paying these bills?

It's like Trump shut everyone else down but he's spending money left and right and getting all this free publicity.

There are all kinds of these issues. Why do medicaid and social security continue to be paid? Why do veterans get their pensions but active duty military doesn't get paid?

Funding is incredibly complicated and obtuse.

But bubba in Arkansas who can barely afford to keep his pickup running has it all figgered out and is sure that it's all because big gubmint lazy workers deep state waste fraud abuse blah blah blah because the lying GOP liars have told them that over and over and over since the 1990s in order to get them mad enough to vote to tear the government down.

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Anonymous wrote:This entire mofo is gonna last until Thanksgiving.

Yep. There is zero political pressure to get anything done. And now that the military is getting paid, that removes another pressure point.

It's basically up to the Air Traffic Controllers. When they decide to check out from their high pressure jobs because they need to do something else to pay the mortgage, it's over.

So basically, we are all waiting for Air Traffic Controllers to break for Congress to do their damn job.

Totally awesome political system we have here.

I assume that Vought will likely shift money around for ATC and this thing will be going until January at the earliest.

God I miss the Nancy Pelosi days. She knew how to handle him.

Other feds are going to have to figure something out if this is still going in a couple months. And lots of contracts that were funded for a month or two past Oct. 1 will start running out of money. The people who make the social security and Medicare checks go out will stop coming in. The contractors who do all the maintenance at military bases, including fixing planes and helicopters and vehicles will stop coming in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or they work in NSC and cybersecurity and cant explicitly list what they do...but you go ahead and think its because of throwing a fit. Nope, it was a fuc4ing landmine for a good percentage of our federal workforce because it was
a) being sent unsecured
b) being sent to unknown clearance
c) FUC5ing stupid to do because the SES and higher-level management was already having to make a case for keeping employees so it was duplicative work

As for the bolded, you are certifiably crazy. And if you arent a troll, it makes me highly concerned that you would even type those words out.

Damn right. Not to mention I'm 100% confident that the goobers Trump brought in wouldn't even have the technical knowhow to understand 95% of what I was working on in my 5 bullet points. I'm glad they finally trashed that stupid, wasteful exercise.
We already have been briefing management on our work for years. There was no point in the five bullets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This entire mofo is gonna last until Thanksgiving.

Yep. There is zero political pressure to get anything done. And now that the military is getting paid, that removes another pressure point.

It's basically up to the Air Traffic Controllers. When they decide to check out from their high pressure jobs because they need to do something else to pay the mortgage, it's over.

So basically, we are all waiting for Air Traffic Controllers to break for Congress to do their damn job.

Totally awesome political system we have here.

I assume that Vought will likely shift money around for ATC and this thing will be going until January at the earliest.

God I miss the Nancy Pelosi days. She knew how to handle him.

Other feds are going to have to figure something out if this is still going in a couple months. And lots of contracts that were funded for a month or two past Oct. 1 will start running out of money. The people who make the social security and Medicare checks go out will stop coming in. The contractors who do all the maintenance at military bases, including fixing planes and helicopters and vehicles will stop coming in.

It's robbing Peter to pay Paul and unless they specifically deal with that and make it up in appropriations, there's going to be ongoing problems rippling, possibly for years.

[Anonymous]

It's astounding to me that the GOP actually thinks this CR is the answer.

It was originally only supposed to last 7 weeks in the first place, a small extension to run until November 21st, at which point the government runs out of money again.

The narrative was that was supposed to buy time for Congress to work on appropriations.

But are they working on it? Sure doesn't seem like it, given they are IN RECESS.

Mike Johnson isn't going to reconvene Congress til October 20th at the soonest.

That leaves them at most 4 weeks to pass a new CR through both the House and Senate. In even the best of circumstances, and with no policy riders and bipartisan cooperation (which currently doesn't exist) it can typically take around 10-14 days for a CR to be introduced, debated, passed by the House and Senate and signed into law by the President.

So Mike Johnson's failed House leadership is likely leading us right into another shutdown in November.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?

That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.

agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.

i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.

they left at 3:30 because they got in at 7. WTF is wrong with you? Stop being intellectually dishonest.

And when they were asked to come up with five items they did every week they threw a fit. That is literally something most private sector workers are expected to do without even being asked. If my boss sat me down, and asked me what I completed over the last week (with no warning or time to prepare), I suspect he would be pretty damn disappointed if I could only list five items over the 40 hours of work I put in. It’s basic shit like that which makes it damn hard to have any compassion for these government workers.

Working for the government should be a great honor. Staff should be proud of the work they have done to help the American people. They should not have to even be asked to provide a list of what they did in the last week, they should be excited to share how they helped the American people. And it should be obvious anyway.

It’s stuff like this that makes the vast majority of Americans feel like there needs to be a reckoning, that those who are just in government for a paycheck, who aren’t proud of the job they have, who don’t want to be held accountable, to go and be replaced by people who do. People who aren’t happy to sit at home with their thumbs up their asses when the democrats shut down the government, and who insist on coming into work to support the American people regardless of what their supervisors say, and regardless of whether they will ever be paid for their work.

Like a PP said, it was a huge waste of time to write the 5 bullets and required us to stop what we were doing to accommodate DOGE, which seemed to have no idea what the federal government does at all. We have to justify our existence all the time (we routinely get evaluated and we are always sending highlights to our managers — to include responding to Congress), so to add — under the rubric that some random kid named Big Balls would decide if we were “worthy” or not — to that was just too much.

Working for the government IS a great honor — which is why we do it and why we accept less pay than our corporate peers. But as you can see from what happened with DOGE, they randomly fired people — DESPITE knowing the 5 items — because they STILL did not understand (really, VALUE) what we did until after the fact, and then had to hire them back. It’s a complete joke.

Most of my colleagues are NOT happy to be sitting at home right now because we know we have work to do — I’m not sure where you are getting that idea. Those of us who are furloughed are actually FORBIDDEN from coming to work right now, BY LAW.

[Anonymous]

At some point, there is no reason to send in taxes, given the government is non-operational.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?

That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.

agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.

i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.

they left at 3:30 because they got in at 7. WTF is wrong with you? Stop being intellectually dishonest.

And when they were asked to come up with five items they did every week they threw a fit. That is literally something most private sector workers are expected to do without even being asked. If my boss sat me down, and asked me what I completed over the last week (with no warning or time to prepare), I suspect he would be pretty damn disappointed if I could only list five items over the 40 hours of work I put in. It’s basic shit like that which makes it damn hard to have any compassion for these government workers.

Working for the government should be a great honor. Staff should be proud of the work they have done to help the American people. They should not have to even be asked to provide a list of what they did in the last week, they should be excited to share how they helped the American people. And it should be obvious anyway.

It’s stuff like this that makes the vast majority of Americans feel like there needs to be a reckoning, that those who are just in government for a paycheck, who aren’t proud of the job they have, who don’t want to be held accountable, to go and be replaced by people who do. People who aren’t happy to sit at home with their thumbs up their asses when the democrats shut down the government, and who insist on coming into work to support the American people regardless of what their supervisors say, and regardless of whether they will ever be paid for their work.

Oh, and one more thing: you want to know who should be proud to serve the American people? CONGRESS, in particular the House, who is currently NOT WORKING but still GETTING PAID. Get your own priorities in order, sister.

[Anonymous]

Do we have any idea how long this will last?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do we have any idea how long this will last?

Sadly, very few people care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since when republicans in congress care about federal workers?

That's another huge difference between the parties -

Democrats respect, value and support federal workers,
Republicans demonize, attack and vilify federal workers.

agreed

and that is why I always vote Red.

i worked as government contractor at GSA and Pentagon. you could fire 50% of the employess and the offices would NOT skip a beat.

and everyone claimed they were so so busy, and yet they left at 3:30 every day. and still found time to work out/ play bball every day.

they left at 3:30 because they got in at 7. WTF is wrong with you? Stop being intellectually dishonest.

And when they were asked to come up with five items they did every week they threw a fit. That is literally something most private sector workers are expected to do without even being asked. If my boss sat me down, and asked me what I completed over the last week (with no warning or time to prepare), I suspect he would be pretty damn disappointed if I could only list five items over the 40 hours of work I put in. It’s basic shit like that which makes it damn hard to have any compassion for these government workers.

Working for the government should be a great honor. Staff should be proud of the work they have done to help the American people. They should not have to even be asked to provide a list of what they did in the last week, they should be excited to share how they helped the American people. And it should be obvious anyway.

It’s stuff like this that makes the vast majority of Americans feel like there needs to be a reckoning, that those who are just in government for a paycheck, who aren’t proud of the job they have, who don’t want to be held accountable, to go and be replaced by people who do. People who aren’t happy to sit at home with their thumbs up their asses when the democrats shut down the government, and who insist on coming into work to support the American people regardless of what their supervisors say, and regardless of whether they will ever be paid for their work.

Like a PP said, it was a huge waste of time to write the 5 bullets and required us to stop what we were doing to accommodate DOGE, which seemed to have no idea what the federal government does at all. We have to justify our existence all the time (we routinely get evaluated and we are always sending highlights to our managers — to include responding to Congress), so to add — under the rubric that some random kid named Big Balls would decide if we were “worthy” or not — to that was just too much.

Working for the government IS a great honor — which is why we do it and why we accept less pay than our corporate peers. But as you can see from what happened with DOGE, they randomly fired people — DESPITE knowing the 5 items — because they STILL did not understand (really, VALUE) what we did until after the fact, and then had to hire them back. It’s a complete joke.

Most of my colleagues are NOT happy to be sitting at home right now because we know we have work to do — I’m not sure where you are getting that idea. Those of us who are furloughed are actually FORBIDDEN from coming to work right now, BY LAW.

Right. I'm still working, because I am a federal physician providing direct care, and my group is exempted from furloughs.

It was almost impossible to state what I did the prior week in 5 bullet points without violating HIPAA, and still make it meaningful. I ended up automating five bullet points distilled from our US Code mission subcategories and called it a day.

What did they want me to do -- go into details about diagnosing appendicitis in a 2 year old? Write down the details of how to decompress a pneumothorax?