Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was sexually and emotionally abused in a past relationship. If I had to go to court with my ex, I would not be able to look at him and I would be completely stressed out and have anxiety the whole time. If I were to cry, I’d have real tears flowing down my face. She is full of crap.

Depp is not all innocent but I think she has a few more screws loose than him.

Everyone is different. I *did* face my abuser in court and looked him directly in the eye. How dare you say that someone is "full of crap" just because they behaved differently than you?

I’m not saying that. I should have made more clear that it’s her bad acting that makes me feel that way. I would never say someone is full of crap for facing someone that abused them. It takes a ton of strength to do what you did and I applaud you for that.

I still stand by the fact that she is definitely acting. I do believe some of what she says, but you can tell when she is exaggerating.

[Anonymous]

I am just not responding to this at all. It’s honestly freaking me out. My god.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I could never be on this jury. I found Depp's testimony about growing up abused both triggering and therapeutic. My mom is a less extreme version of his who stuck to verbal and emotional, but not physical abuse. I believed every word of that and understand why as an adult he still tried to please her be "close." I think he repeated the patter with Amber and became like his father. i got help to make sure I did not repeat my parent's relationship. I do think Depp coped with substance abuse and under the influence probably became abusive and may not even remember. I see them both as likely perpetrators and victims.

There is another take on his childhood. Narcissists are a product of abuse during childhood. The way a young mind copes with a trauma is to invent themselves as a perfect person, to only see themselves as a victim later in life. They strive so much to please the abuser that they become the abuser, as nothing can touch them then. In their own minds, they truly are victims.
NPD person perceived anyone who disagrees with him/her as a stupid, evil, unreasonable person. When their narc supply, that is a person they abuse non stop to boost their ego, rebels, they insult, put down and even physically abuse. The convince everyone around them that this person is crazy, insane, look how nice I am. SO, yes, NPD persons groom their narc supply, their victim. This is, most likely, why he can't drop it, his whole person is built on lies, that he is the best. Look at the trial? He will not stop until he totally humiliates her.
They both might be bad, but that performance he put prior to today? Magnificent Narc charm propaganda, he is so nice, he would never do any of it. But, come on people, she was 22, you do not become a magnificent nard abuser of a superstar at 22.

This is a great description of the codependent narcissists and his behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was sexually and emotionally abused in a past relationship. If I had to go to court with my ex, I would not be able to look at him and I would be completely stressed out and have anxiety the whole time. If I were to cry, I’d have real tears flowing down my face. She is full of crap.

Depp is not all innocent but I think she has a few more screws loose than him.

Everyone is different. I *did* face my abuser in court and looked him directly in the eye. How dare you say that someone is "full of crap" just because they behaved differently than you?

I’m not saying that. I should have made more clear that it’s her bad acting that makes me feel that way. I would never say someone is full of crap for facing someone that abused them. It takes a ton of strength to do what you did and I applaud you for that.

I still stand by the fact that she is definitely acting. I do believe some of what she says, but you can tell when she is exaggerating.

I wouldn't call it exaggeration but more like she's very intense and descriptive, she's an actress after all.

He's a druggy for sure!

[Anonymous]

They remind me SO MUCH of a couple I know, right down to the pooping on things. Wife is bipolar, husband is an alcoholic and sexual predator. They abuse the sh!t out of each other, both are equally at fault because they are total disasters, and both spin the narrative to make themselves look innocent.

I think it’s pretty obvious the Depp went broke years ago and this is a sad effort to get some money and possibly jump start his career.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They remind me SO MUCH of a couple I know, right down to the pooping on things. Wife is bipolar, husband is an alcoholic and sexual predator. They abuse the sh!t out of each other, both are equally at fault because they are total disasters, and both spin the narrative to make themselves look innocent.

I think it’s pretty obvious the Depp went broke years ago and this is a sad effort to get some money and possibly jump start his career.

But get money from who? There's no way she has $50M to pay a judgment even if he wins (which he wont)

[Anonymous]

This afternoon testimony is slightly more compelling than it had been. But, the drama! She’s acting on the stand in a way that we would expect to see a courtroom drama scene. That is what makes it so hard for me to believe what she saying.

[Anonymous]

What do you think of her posing for the camera while on the stand? Tissue to the nose and everything.

[Anonymous]

Amber is definitely the guilty one. She has no tears, she recovered way too quickly from her “meltdown” and she is talking about details that don’t matter. Where are the photos of all this abuse? Why just pictures of the aftermath? Where are the witnesses or hospital reports? There are none. Johnny is the one with the pictures. I grew up in a house with a mother who abused my father. It’s real and men can’t come forward because it could never be them. Johnny’s team is going to tear her apart. And I can’t wait for her to be caught in her lies, more so than she already has been. Even if Johnny doesn’t get awarded any money, the public has finally heard his side.

[Anonymous]

Regardless of who is guilty, these guys had some twilighty, crazy things going on. Did I understand correctly that he chopped up raw steak in her silk robe and just hid them all over the Australia house???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of who is guilty, these guys had some twilighty, crazy things going on. Did I understand correctly that he chopped up raw steak in her silk robe and just hid them all over the Australia house???

And that she left poop on his bed? and that he would pass out howling in airplane bathrooms?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know. This thread seems full of people very heavily invested in Depp being the hero and he certainly doesn't come off that way to me. Seems likely to me that he was on a bunch of drugs etc. and doesn't remember some of the terrible things he did, and also lines up with my experience of someone like this in my own life.

I thought he looked genuinely regretful during some of her testimony. Like he thought, maybe she had a point about them having been deeply in love, and then his paranoia (due to the drugs or whatever) about her encouraging stewardesses and the like -- and his abusive behavior in reaction to that paranoia -- really ruined things. He was covering his eyes and looking down and seemed very tense. I thought he looked ashamed and sad and tense.

That has been my read of the situation as well. As she is speaking he can't look at her. He looks embarrassed and ashamed.

Or he's unable to look at his abuser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Amber is definitely the guilty one. She has no tears, she recovered way too quickly from her “meltdown” and she is talking about details that don’t matter. Where are the photos of all this abuse? Why just pictures of the aftermath? Where are the witnesses or hospital reports? There are none. Johnny is the one with the pictures. I grew up in a house with a mother who abused my father. It’s real and men can’t come forward because it could never be them. Johnny’s team is going to tear her apart. And I can’t wait for her to be caught in her lies, more so than she already has been. Even if Johnny doesn’t get awarded any money, the public has finally heard his side.

Exactly. Just watching now and she went through a dramatic emotional statement of how she loved him and pretended to cry, but there were no tears. And now she has completely recovered minutes later.

[Anonymous]

I believe her. They both are clearly very unhealthy people, but she sounds very believable to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This afternoon testimony is slightly more compelling than it had been. But, the drama! She’s acting on the stand in a way that we would expect to see a courtroom drama scene. That is what makes it so hard for me to believe what she saying.

More compelling? I don’t know about that. Its exactly the same. Horrible abuse incident after horrible abuse incident. She has painted him like a total psycho. But she married him. I try really hard not to judge that but the way she’s describing him, she sounds utterly delusional to be like “but I loved him! Love of my life!”