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Looks like a new Gaza war has started
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Anonymous
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It’s pretty obvious Hamas has fuel. How else are they launching rockets?
If they cared about Palestinians they’d share the fuel. But they don’t. They steal any fuel that comes in. |
Anonymous
Who called it exhilarating and celebrated in the streets? If I remember correct demonstrations didn’t even break out on Oct 7. They started after the Gaza war began a few days later and there was no dancing in the streets. Demonstrations got intensified by the hospital and Rafah crossing bombings and President Bidens remarks. |
Anonymous
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In the name of Humanity, end the talking in endless meetings and ACT to save Humanity now. The UN must immediately demand a ceasefire and send it’s UN soldiers into Gaza immediately and deliver on the stated purpose of it’s Charter: to de-escalate war and prevent war crimes including Genocide. The UN must immediately:
1) deploy its Armed Forces into Gaza from both the sea by beach landing and via the Egyptian border under the authority it has to do so ( see Chapter VII, Article 51 of UN Charter ) which was explicitly written to forestall the ability of ANY member nation from engaging in Genocide. Because, lets face it : in the world we live in , from time to time when provoked, some countries cross the line and engage in Genocide. This is Fact, this is the history of the 20th Century and the whole world sees and knows exactly what is being done to 2.5 million Palestinians these past 3 weeks, half of them children. Chapter VII/ Article 51 states, “ “ self-defence shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security. 2) UN forces must immediately demand a cease fire by BOTH parties. If Israel fires upon these UN forces to try to deter the UN forces, then Israel will be expanding it’s verbal attacks it made yesterday on the integrity of the UN Secretary General and its pressure campaign over teh past two weeks against ALL UN member states in a vicious attempt to intimidate other nations and undermine their willingness of it’s member nations to enforce the UN Charter to stop aggression from escalating before the world witnesses the extermination of 2.5 million Palestinian people, half of whom are innocent children. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/25/israel-says-it-will-ban-un-staff-after-secretary-generals-comments The UN forces must, once on site in GAZA: 3) immediately open triage hospitals to provide food, water, medical care and sanitation to the 2.5 million Palestinian citizens of Gaza who have been under military bombardment and forced mass starvation and denial of medical care at the hands of the Israeli Army as declared by the spoken intent of it’s Minister of Defense for 3 weeks: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/israel-defense-minister-human-animals-gaza-palestine_n_6524220ae4b09f4b8d412e0a 4) The UN forces must immediately achieve the release of ALL hostages as recent measures , though they brought some minimal success, are now failing. 5) The UN forces must immediately begin negotiations for a surrender of those Hamas fighters who remain alive**** in return for UN guarantees- through its Force of Arms , as in UNIFL, on the ground in Gaza and West bank going forward to take over the administration of all services to enforce all prior UN resolutions with regard to end the oppression and “ facts on the ground” forced extinction of the Palestinian people as documented by: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/25/un-report-80-per-cent-of-gaza-inhabitants-relied-on-international-aid-before-war https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/24/gaza-hospitals-ceasing-to-function-as-water-and-fuel-run-out The removal by UN forces of ALL illegal Israeli settlements constructed since Oslo in 1993. The arrest and prosecution of ALL settlers who have or who in the future have attacked Palestinians in their homes on the West Bank, driven them out of their villages, bulldozed their homes and farms The UN must dismantle all illegal water diversions by Israel that deprive the Palestinian’s ability to grow food on their arable land and feed their people. The UN must station forces in East Jerusalem to stop Israel from violating the Palestinian’s right to worship in peace at their religious shrines and to practice their faith without being attacked, harassed and having the sanctity of their religious places intentionally violated. |
Anonymous
DP. I mean, have you not been reading ANY news? Exhilarating is literally a direct quote from a prominent national news story. Your credibility is suffering. |
Anonymous
Or you can, you know, read stuff by people who were in the room? https://www.democracynow.org/2006/2/14/fmr_israeli_foreign_minister_shlomo_ben SHLOMO BEN-AMI: Yes, yes. Okay, the last third part of the book, as Dr. Finkelstein says, there is the diplomat, and this same diplomat still behaves in a way as a historian when he says in this book that Camp David was not the missed opportunity for the Palestinians, and if I were a Palestinian I would have rejected Camp David, as well. This is the Israeli Foreign Minister talking, the person who was in the room, and he admits it was a bad deal for the Palestinians because it was all about "Israeli needs over Palestinian rights." |
Anonymous
The fuel to the hospital is pointless as there is no water or electricity due to Israel bombing the neighborhoods of every hospital. Some doctors and patients have probably rerouted to the tunnels for all we know. It seems like Hamas are the safest in Gaza after all with these tunnels |
Anonymous
Yes. Because they can’t take any further risks. Why is that not obvious to you? Why do you think they need to say that? Honestly I cannot believe you are morally supporting the hostage-takers. It is disgusting and vile. |
Anonymous
Getting my popcorn out. |
Anonymous
Dennis Ross is not the only person with a book, and these books say different things so clearly it is possible that people in that room came out with different impressions of what has transpired. |
Anonymous
A professor at Cornell called the attacks exhilarating. https://nypost.com/2023/10/16/russell-rickford-says-hamas-terror-was-exhilarating-exciting/ |
Anonymous
That was written in response to claims that it’s a scary time to be a Jewish student in the US. Zero Jewish students have been killed in the United States in recent years but there has been a Palestinian child murdered in a hate crime LAST WEEK because of his religion. https://apnews.com/article/hate-crime-illinois-war-israel-hamas-palestinian-a230a2347485974f628ee97af41e3236 The link you provided was for a crime that happened 5 years ago and was overwhelmingly condemned. You still can’t bring yourself to admit that Palestinian children are being murdered NOW to preemptively protect Israel. They’re being murdered in Gaza and Palestinian children are not safe in the United States either. In the United States it’s overwhelmingly safer to be a Jewish student than a Palestinian one. |
Anonymous
Of course they are. And of course I want people to have water and electricity. Let’s just be clear about the role Hamas plays in screwing over their own people. |
Anonymous
That child’s death is a tragedy, but does it mean it is generally safer to be a Jew than a Muslim. The hate crime stats are clear. |
Anonymous
It's pretty clear that 90% of both pro-Palestinian and pro-Israeli armchair warriors DGAF about any of the victims. They only use the ones on their side as a means to advance their insane maximalist arguments. |
Anonymous
| Does NOT mean |