
+1 This was a massive military failure by the IDF or they let it happen. |
Want the war with Iran. The only unknow at this point is how much US was signed off. |
I’m sympathetic to the horrific Islamophobia in the US but the murder and death stats show that you are wildly wrong. Don’t go down this route. You will look like a fool. |
Even better, Jordan occupied the West Bank from 1948-1967 and never even considered setting up an independent Palestinian state. Then, in 1970-71, Jordan killed some 3,000 Palestinians associated with Arafat and exiled another 20,000. |
One thing you learn very quickly in the Middle East is a huge divide between public statements and actual facts. Everyone talks to each other. EVERYONE. Even sworn enemies. Everyone haggles. I guarantee you that even at this hour, Bibi's administration and Hamas are in daily contact. It may not be direct but they totally are. There is stuff going on there that you'll never know about. |
Or you can, you know, have a clue who Dennis Ross is and that he WAS IN THE ROOM. Also, please stop trotting out Norman Finkelstein. He is a radical anti-Israel academic with a burning agenda. I know he's your token Jew, but find someone else. |
Pp. Yes and that nut was rightly fired. Which Palestinian called Oct 7 exhilarating? I see many Israelis on Tiktok calling the Gaza war fun and exciting and mocking the dead and starving kids of Gaza by posting their faucets of clean water and one person joked about dressing up as a Gaza kid for Halloween . Did any Palestinian mock the Israeli victims ? You know -pretend to be a hostage , laugh at reports of beheadings or rape on social media? I haven’t seen any |
Ooh I’ve got one! Egypt owned Gaza from 1948-1967 and never integrated it into Egypt with equal rights for Palestinians. |
1. We’re talking about Americans here. I could show you infinite numbers of horrid videos by Palestinians mocking Israelis. 2. Show me American Jews calling for the annihilation of Gaza at rallies. |
+100 It stuck out to me that the hostages say Hamas spoke perfect Hebrew to them. Again, Hamas and Israel made strange bedfellows for years and worked together since the 80s. Israeli intel bosses themselves have been quoted as saying how smart and effective Hamas members are compared to the useless Palestinian Authority. Hamas has just as good of a PR arm as Israel does. They learned from the best. They both are probably still intertwined in Constant contact but IDF is probably given a stay away directive from The tunnels so Hamas doesn’t take any more soldiers captive . |
Not makimg things up at all. What was the concrete and direct military advantage gained by bombing a church and killimg civilians taking shelter? Why couldn't Israel have attacked the command center with more precision? That bears a total relationship to my point. This was a war crime. To say otherwise is to say those Christian lives don't matter. |
Are you serious here? There are so many examples. You must be deliberately trying not to see. I have seen the despicable Israeli posts and the despicable Hamas posts. They are both there. If you don’t see them from one side only, you are deliberately averting your eyes. Some of them have made the news. |
This is why I never understood why this stupid administration wanted to publicize Saudi Arabia/ Israel relations. We know they’ve been working together as far back as coordinating Yemeni Jew Aliyah to Israel back in the 50s and 60s. There’s no need to publicize it and rile up the people. Iran and Saudi Arabia also always had back channels of communication despite their feud especially during the Iraq War- this was a regional issue they were mutually concerned about . Everyone works together for common interests. Hamas and Israel were working together with Egypt at one point to kill off ISIS in the Sinai. Hamas did most of the work because they already were familiar with Isis’s habits from working with Hezbollah in Syria and Lebanon |
Where are the despicable posts or actions from the Palestinians? Did Palestinians in the West Bank dance in the streets as the settlers do when Israelis died on Oct 7? |
Meanwhile Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu’s son, Yair, is EXEMPT from his father’s military draft and will continue to vacation in Miami Beach. |