Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:Hoda sat in for Savannah this morning. Around 730 when Hoda, Craig, Al and Carson are at the news desk. They all looked like they were on the verge of tears and trying to not cry on TV. I thought they had received bad news over the break and we’re going to break the news on the air. I speculated that they privately received an update from Savannah, which is why they were broken up.

Craig had to clear his throat several times I noticed that too.

Carson was pretty broken up as well and that’s when my antenna went up. It was just a split second and my interpretation of that moment.

Obviously didn’t announce anything on the air only that they would be reporting on regular news and that’s what Savannah would want.

I know they are close in real life, so it is not out of the realm of possibility that Savannah is updating them privately.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you think will happen after the 5:00 deadline?

My guess is nothing immediately, at least nothing public. The public doesn’t know if anything that happened after the first deadline passed last week either.

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Anonymous wrote:So you’re saying someone randomly noticed that Nancy wasn’t online watching church and called her daughter to go check on her?

Np here, but sure that could happen. I’m sure someone monitors who is online and it would be very noticeable if someone wasn’t there.

I heard about a family who k ew something was wrong with an older relative because they had not posted in the Wordle group chat that day. Lots of older people have very consistent schedules.

I think her church said they aren't set-up to track online attendees. Sounds like the version they gave police isn't panning out

Right - they mentioned a church friend alerted them that Nancy didn’t attend. How did Nancy’s friend have Annie’s number? Which friend? Cell records are easily obtainable.

They messed up by using that as their reason

This just doesn't seem that odd to me. She isn't Catholic and doens't go to a huge mass. She goes to services at a smaller protestant church, I think, and is very religious-- it doesn't surprise me that there would be a community of older women that expects to see each other online at services and gets concerned if they don't see the regular crew online and texting the daughter to check on her mom just seems very normal to me. But I agree that it's easily verifiable.

This. Older women who live alone create these safety nets for each other. My mom has a deal with her neighbors where they open the blinds on a certain window each day so they know they aren’t dead or in trouble. My mom also texts me and my brother each morning.

Yes, the church crew probably texts each other before logging on for services. Not at all unusual for older people.

+1. These are old women. They have nothing better to do.

Why so condescending? Conversing with each other is something "better to do". It promotes socializing, a vital necessity as we age, and it promotes safety. When your circle notices you aren't texting as usual, they can have someone check on you. If they are in a church and did NOT text or talk to each other, that would be concerning that they are perhaps lonely or depressed.

Did the church ladies know Annie’s number? According to Annie and Tomasco, they were alerted to complete a wellness check after discovering from one of Nancy’s friends that Nancy did not attend for Sunday’s virtual service. This is all early verifiable. Cops have already determined whether someone from church called or texted Nancy asking for her whereabouts or if someone from church informed Annie.

I believe LE was already on to the family as suspects but was not disclosing that so Annie, Tomasco, and Savannah do not freak out. Remember, Savannah was staying with Annie at her home for this week. It must be awkward now. At this point, she must be aware something is going on if they were taking photos of their garage in the dark and impounding vehicles

Why do you call him Tomasco? That’s not his name. You’re posting over and over here a bunch of nonsense. You’re probably the same one who doesn’t have a clue what a pacemaker is.

Tommaso. Big whoop. I don’t care to spell his name correctly. My autocorrect for some reason likes Tomasco better.

I don’t think it’s nonsense if my suspicion appears to Seemingly
Get Validated with every new update. Some of you are personally offended that the Guthrie family may be involved. Get a grip.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hoda sat in for Savannah this morning. Around 730 when Hoda, Craig, Al and Carson are at the news desk. They all looked like they were on the verge of tears and trying to not cry on TV. I thought they had received bad news over the break and we’re going to break the news on the air. I speculated that they privately received an update from Savannah, which is why they were broken up.

Craig had to clear his throat several times I noticed that too.

Carson was pretty broken up as well and that’s when my antenna went up. It was just a split second and my interpretation of that moment.

Obviously didn’t announce anything on the air only that they would be reporting on regular news and that’s what Savannah would want.

I know they are close in real life, so it is not out of the realm of possibility that Savannah is updating them privately.

Is there a clip of this?

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Anonymous wrote:I found another leak, Annie and Tomasso asked Nancy for money a month ago and she denied their request.

Where is this substantiated?

Everyone called me a liar 50 pages ago when I posted that I saw on fb or insta that her sister was taken into custody. Sadly, this is looking more likely. Just savage.

Her sister was in the family video holding Savannah’s hand. She was not taken into custody.

this is like a movie if she is involved though. The level of deception to Savannah is just as bad if not worse than the crime

I have a very hard time believing that a daughter would harm her mother, much less her elderly mother.

Men are much more likely to commit violent crimes. Just based on the odds alone, I wouldn’t suspect her sister. A male in the family - maybe. But they’re presenting a united front which points to it not being a member of the family.

Yes, but Annie is the one who called 911 to report her mother was missing. She is also the one who told police someone from church alerted to her that her mother was missing at service.

The cops had no reason to suspect an elderly Woman’s daughter of kidnapping or murder so they even announced publically that she was found missing at home after not attending church (Annie’s story)

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Anonymous wrote:I found another leak, Annie and Tomasso asked Nancy for money a month ago and she denied their request.

Where is this substantiated?

Everyone called me a liar 50 pages ago when I posted that I saw on fb or insta that her sister was taken into custody. Sadly, this is looking more likely. Just savage.

Her sister was in the family video holding Savannah’s hand. She was not taken into custody.

this is like a movie if she is involved though. The level of deception to Savannah is just as bad if not worse than the crime

I have a very hard time believing that a daughter would harm her mother, much less her elderly mother.

Men are much more likely to commit violent crimes. Just based on the odds alone, I wouldn’t suspect her sister. A male in the family - maybe. But they’re presenting a united front which points to it not being a member of the family.

Of course the sister didn’t kidnap the mom. My god, people are getting caught up in dumb conspiracy theories. I suppose that happens when there is little information - imaginations go wild. But this poor lady is missing her mother.

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I’m not following the story very closely, but with each update, I keep thinking there’s going to be an arrest, but it seems like they are no closer to solving it. What a living nightmare for the family.

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The police have changed the church notification narrative. That is no longer part of the scenario and the family member named who dropped her back off at home is now unnamed.

The steady stream of updates isn’t reflected in one location which causes additional confusion.

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Anonymous wrote:Hoda sat in for Savannah this morning. Around 730 when Hoda, Craig, Al and Carson are at the news desk. They all looked like they were on the verge of tears and trying to not cry on TV. I thought they had received bad news over the break and we’re going to break the news on the air. I speculated that they privately received an update from Savannah, which is why they were broken up.

Craig had to clear his throat several times I noticed that too.

Carson was pretty broken up as well and that’s when my antenna went up. It was just a split second and my interpretation of that moment.

Obviously didn’t announce anything on the air only that they would be reporting on regular news and that’s what Savannah would want.

I know they are close in real life, so it is not out of the realm of possibility that Savannah is updating them privately.

Is there a clip of this?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUicgqJE8TP/

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Anonymous wrote:Hoda sat in for Savannah this morning. Around 730 when Hoda, Craig, Al and Carson are at the news desk. They all looked like they were on the verge of tears and trying to not cry on TV. I thought they had received bad news over the break and we’re going to break the news on the air. I speculated that they privately received an update from Savannah, which is why they were broken up.

Craig had to clear his throat several times I noticed that too.

Carson was pretty broken up as well and that’s when my antenna went up. It was just a split second and my interpretation of that moment.

Obviously didn’t announce anything on the air only that they would be reporting on regular news and that’s what Savannah would want.

I know they are close in real life, so it is not out of the realm of possibility that Savannah is updating them privately.

Is there a clip of this?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUicgqJE8TP/

This is about 30 minutes after Craig said Hoda would be with them this week and they had a completely different demeanor at 7:30 versus 7 AM – more somber. I hope we’re just reading into it but if you look at the two clips, there’s a definite mood change.

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How could the police and FBI say there’s no threat to the general public if the suspect is not identified?

Wouldn’t the kidnapper easily begin to target her cohosts and their families as easily as they did Savannah’s mother?

No order for additional security at the NBC offices or family homes?

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Anonymous wrote:So you’re saying someone randomly noticed that Nancy wasn’t online watching church and called her daughter to go check on her?

Np here, but sure that could happen. I’m sure someone monitors who is online and it would be very noticeable if someone wasn’t there.

I heard about a family who k ew something was wrong with an older relative because they had not posted in the Wordle group chat that day. Lots of older people have very consistent schedules.

I think her church said they aren't set-up to track online attendees. Sounds like the version they gave police isn't panning out

Right - they mentioned a church friend alerted them that Nancy didn’t attend. How did Nancy’s friend have Annie’s number? Which friend? Cell records are easily obtainable.

They messed up by using that as their reason

This just doesn't seem that odd to me. She isn't Catholic and doens't go to a huge mass. She goes to services at a smaller protestant church, I think, and is very religious-- it doesn't surprise me that there would be a community of older women that expects to see each other online at services and gets concerned if they don't see the regular crew online and texting the daughter to check on her mom just seems very normal to me. But I agree that it's easily verifiable.

This. Older women who live alone create these safety nets for each other. My mom has a deal with her neighbors where they open the blinds on a certain window each day so they know they aren’t dead or in trouble. My mom also texts me and my brother each morning.

Yes, the church crew probably texts each other before logging on for services. Not at all unusual for older people.

+1. These are old women. They have nothing better to do.

Why so condescending? Conversing with each other is something "better to do". It promotes socializing, a vital necessity as we age, and it promotes safety. When your circle notices you aren't texting as usual, they can have someone check on you. If they are in a church and did NOT text or talk to each other, that would be concerning that they are perhaps lonely or depressed.

Did the church ladies know Annie’s number? According to Annie and Tomasco, they were alerted to complete a wellness check after discovering from one of Nancy’s friends that Nancy did not attend for Sunday’s virtual service. This is all early verifiable. Cops have already determined whether someone from church called or texted Nancy asking for her whereabouts or if someone from church informed Annie.

I believe LE was already on to the family as suspects but was not disclosing that so Annie, Tomasco, and Savannah do not freak out. Remember, Savannah was staying with Annie at her home for this week. It must be awkward now. At this point, she must be aware something is going on if they were taking photos of their garage in the dark and impounding vehicles

Why do you call him Tomasco? That’s not his name. You’re posting over and over here a bunch of nonsense. You’re probably the same one who doesn’t have a clue what a pacemaker is.

Tommaso. Big whoop. I don’t care to spell his name correctly. My autocorrect for some reason likes Tomasco better.

I don’t think it’s nonsense if my suspicion appears to Seemingly
Get Validated with every new update. Some of you are personally offended that the Guthrie family may be involved. Get a grip.

Honey, almost everyone in here is suspicious of the family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How could the police and FBI say there’s no threat to the general public if the suspect is not identified?

Wouldn’t the kidnapper easily begin to target her cohosts and their families as easily as they did Savannah’s mother?

No order for additional security at the NBC offices or family homes?

The Idaho police in the college murders said the same thing “no threat to the public” long before they had a suspect. It’s odd.

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Anonymous wrote:How could the police and FBI say there’s no threat to the general public if the suspect is not identified?

Wouldn’t the kidnapper easily begin to target her cohosts and their families as easily as they did Savannah’s mother?

No order for additional security at the NBC offices or family homes?

My understanding of “no threat to the public” is that it means that the victim was targeted specifically. It wasn’t a random crime or even a crime of opportunity. So even if they haven’t caught the suspect yet, the general public isn’t believed to be at risk. Unlike something like the DC sniper which was random attacks and the public was at risk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How could the police and FBI say there’s no threat to the general public if the suspect is not identified?

Wouldn’t the kidnapper easily begin to target her cohosts and their families as easily as they did Savannah’s mother?

No order for additional security at the NBC offices or family homes?

My understanding of “no threat to the public” is that it means that the victim was targeted specifically. It wasn’t a random crime or even a crime of opportunity. So even if they haven’t caught the suspect yet, the general public isn’t believed to be at risk. Unlike something like the DC sniper which was random attacks and the public was at risk.

But do they know this? Or just think it?