VA Revolution has purchased Evergreen Sportsplex

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Anonymous wrote:You people are nuts. FCV GA teams will be just fine.

Sure, sure, Loudoun based kids are all looking forward to driving by multiple ECNL clubs to practice in Springfield. Current teams, U15 and older, will grind it out but what rising U13 Loudoun based kid is going to consider FCV moving forward?

How many 08's and 09's stay at FCV knowing Springfield is the likely location this time next year?

Even losing just a couple of subs can erode a team. And all of this while FCV is still playing in a mostly unproven league.

There are kids who won't make ECNL rosters. Just being in Springfield my net them SYC players who want a higher league and don't want to practice in McLean

You just described how FCV dies. "There are kids who won't make ECNL rosters" Correct, FCV will attract kids that didn't make a ECNL roster further weakening GA and the FCV brand.

that's who they attract now and they do fine. Revolution is a few steps down from GA, so if GA is harmful to a brand, what would you consider NCSL to be?

FCV will not be attracting any new Loudoun based players if they end up in Springfield. You understand this right? VA Revolution may in fact be a step down from GA but those better players will simply play at Loudoun ECNL or VDA. They will not drive to Springfield for GA if they can make a local ECNL team.

FCV will have to make do with a hyper competitive player pool surrounded by ECNL clubs. FCV is dead already, most parents just haven't realized it yet.

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Anonymous wrote:You people are nuts. FCV GA teams will be just fine.

Sure, sure, Loudoun based kids are all looking forward to driving by multiple ECNL clubs to practice in Springfield. Current teams, U15 and older, will grind it out but what rising U13 Loudoun based kid is going to consider FCV moving forward?

How many 08's and 09's stay at FCV knowing Springfield is the likely location this time next year?

Even losing just a couple of subs can erode a team. And all of this while FCV is still playing in a mostly unproven league.

There are kids who won't make ECNL rosters. Just being in Springfield my net them SYC players who want a higher league and don't want to practice in McLean

You just described how FCV dies. "There are kids who won't make ECNL rosters" Correct, FCV will attract kids that didn't make a ECNL roster further weakening GA and the FCV brand.

that's who they attract now and they do fine. Revolution is a few steps down from GA, so if GA is harmful to a brand, what would you consider NCSL to be?

what ECNL club exists in Springfield? the closest is SYC, but they expect the few who go to McLean to practice in McLean. BRYC is there, but their brand of ECNL isn't any better than FCV's GA

FCV will not be attracting any new Loudoun based players if they end up in Springfield. You understand this right? VA Revolution may in fact be a step down from GA but those better players will simply play at Loudoun ECNL or VDA. They will not drive to Springfield for GA if they can make a local ECNL team.

FCV will have to make do with a hyper competitive player pool surrounded by ECNL clubs. FCV is dead already, most parents just haven't realized it yet.

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Anonymous wrote:Whether FCV, Barca, LFC and whoever uses that space like it or not this is a big power move that will unequivocally translate to the extinction of these clubs in this area. It’s basic science.

Those clubs are niche clubs. VRSC might swallow them up/make their programs untenable, but they are here to compete with Loudoun Soccer. VRSC, without Evergreen, had already easily surpassed LFC as a club and a good argument could be made that they already surpassed FCV, since VRSC has a full boys program and more total teams in Loudoun. VRSC now has a better facility than Loudoun Soccer, so why shouldn’t their goal be to challenge Loudoun Soccer to be the biggest club in Loudoun?

This is pretty much what I just said above.

Not only that but Revolution hired coaches away from both FCV as well as Loudoun. that will continue to happen as they grow but targeting top Loudoun coaches from here on out.

Both Revolution and Loudoun Soccer will be in a heated race to gobble up any remaining County turf fields pushing FCV to unlit grass fields. FCV United practicing a Bles without the option for lights will kill that program off in short order.

Evergreen was the last club agnostic non county complex in Loudoun. FCV's for profit status puts them at a significant competitive disadvantage for county fields space.

FCV knew this was coming and this why the Villarreal "merger" happened. FCV no longer controls its own destiny beyond one very expensive field in the St. James. They will be surrounded by ECNL clubs in Springfield while competing in a new inferior league. Their player pool via VIVA will be poor and knowing all of this ECNL clubs will not throw FCV a life preserver.

The best Loudoun players will now go to Loudoun, VDA or McLean for ECNL, primarily Loudoun and they will no longer give FCV a second thought. We'll find out this spring how many TSJ bags are on ECNL sideline tryouts. I predict many, starting with kids who don't start.

Revolution has hired zero coaches "away from" Loudoun. They have hired coaches who were let go from Loudoun.

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Anonymous wrote:Whether FCV, Barca, LFC and whoever uses that space like it or not this is a big power move that will unequivocally translate to the extinction of these clubs in this area. It’s basic science.

Those clubs are niche clubs. VRSC might swallow them up/make their programs untenable, but they are here to compete with Loudoun Soccer. VRSC, without Evergreen, had already easily surpassed LFC as a club and a good argument could be made that they already surpassed FCV, since VRSC has a full boys program and more total teams in Loudoun. VRSC now has a better facility than Loudoun Soccer, so why shouldn’t their goal be to challenge Loudoun Soccer to be the biggest club in Loudoun?

This is pretty much what I just said above.

Not only that but Revolution hired coaches away from both FCV as well as Loudoun. that will continue to happen as they grow but targeting top Loudoun coaches from here on out.

Both Revolution and Loudoun Soccer will be in a heated race to gobble up any remaining County turf fields pushing FCV to unlit grass fields. FCV United practicing a Bles without the option for lights will kill that program off in short order.

Evergreen was the last club agnostic non county complex in Loudoun. FCV's for profit status puts them at a significant competitive disadvantage for county fields space.

FCV knew this was coming and this why the Villarreal "merger" happened. FCV no longer controls its own destiny beyond one very expensive field in the St. James. They will be surrounded by ECNL clubs in Springfield while competing in a new inferior league. Their player pool via VIVA will be poor and knowing all of this ECNL clubs will not throw FCV a life preserver.

The best Loudoun players will now go to Loudoun, VDA or McLean for ECNL, primarily Loudoun and they will no longer give FCV a second thought. We'll find out this spring how many TSJ bags are on ECNL sideline tryouts. I predict many, starting with kids who don't start.

Revolution has hired zero coaches "away from" Loudoun. They have hired coaches who were let go from Loudoun.

Sure they did.

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Anonymous wrote:Revolution has hired zero coaches "away from" Loudoun. They have hired coaches who were let go from Loudoun.

This statement is 100% false and proves to people who know otherwise that you’re either ignorant and just repeating hearsay or trying to push a particular narrative. So which is it?

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Anonymous wrote:Revolution has hired zero coaches "away from" Loudoun. They have hired coaches who were let go from Loudoun.

This statement is 100% false and proves to people who know otherwise that you’re either ignorant and just repeating hearsay or trying to push a particular narrative. So which is it?

any you know it's false because of first hand knowledge and not a different source of hearsay, correct?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Revolution has hired zero coaches "away from" Loudoun. They have hired coaches who were let go from Loudoun.

This statement is 100% false and proves to people who know otherwise that you’re either ignorant and just repeating hearsay or trying to push a particular narrative. So which is it?

Narrative. Just a Loudoun lapdog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PWC is not just down the road at all.

Try google maps, you can head west and be in PW in 10 mins from evergreen. Catharpin just opened up 4/5 fields and it’s literally on the Loudoun and PW border.

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Anonymous wrote:Revolution has hired zero coaches "away from" Loudoun. They have hired coaches who were let go from Loudoun.

This statement is 100% false and proves to people who know otherwise that you’re either ignorant and just repeating hearsay or trying to push a particular narrative. So which is it?

any you know it's false because of first hand knowledge and not a different source of hearsay, correct?

That is correct.

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Anonymous wrote:Revolution has hired zero coaches "away from" Loudoun. They have hired coaches who were let go from Loudoun.

This statement is 100% false and proves to people who know otherwise that you’re either ignorant and just repeating hearsay or trying to push a particular narrative. So which is it?

any you know it's false because of first hand knowledge and not a different source of hearsay, correct?

That is correct.

i mean this isn't difficult right? there are only two former loudoun coaches on the roster, which one are you claiming was hired away from Loudoun?

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely shocked that it's only valued at 4-5 million.

I saw that comment from a previous poster and that person is living in fantasy land. A regulation sized turf field with lighting is in the $1.7 - $2.0m range. That’s *one* field. You do the math.

Yeah, that sounds much more on point. Not to mention parking facilities and the stands and food/beverage facilities.

it all requires upkeep. The question is how much revenue does it really generate vs just a regular field with lights

Irrigation and irrigation maintenance, constant mowing, fall and spring treatments, line painting, fragile in weather.

which is nice if you compare it to grass, but what about turf fields without the grandstand?

What about them? Not sure what you are asking.

They have a lot to maintain vs. just a turf field with lights. The question is whether they will be able to generate enough income to maintain the property plus service the debt that they took on to buy it. They aren't exactly a huge club

There’s no debt to the new owners. And it’s hard to be HUGE when you were founded 3 years ago and your neighbors have been around since the late 70’s.

However, it is noteworthy to observe they’ve gone from one 1 team in Fall 2018 to fielding 30 or so in Fall 2021. NCSL and EDP are their current leagues. They have a partnership with GA for their most talented female players and one male player has already signed with DC United.

Gotta give credit to them. Who’s to know what they’ll look like in another 3 years? They’ve effectively kicked out those other clubs from their complex so I doubt they’ll stop growing.

They do seem to be squeezing out FCV other than top girls GA teams. I am sure they will also get Loudoun players not on the ECNL or Red teams. As far as LFC, ODFC, a bit of Sterling and maybe a bit of SWA they could / are taking from them as well it would seem. Plenty of room for two larger soccer clubs in Loudoun (LS and VAR) with FCV still serving the narrow boutique top notch girls market. Youth soccer clubs don’t need to be competitive from a business perspective. They can coexist. The real goal is to teach the game and help build healthy and confident young men and women, and for a limited number create avenues and opportunities to play in college or in the rare instance, beyond.

FCV is done in Loudoun beyond the United teams and the United teams will likely collapse if GA moves to Springfield. Nothing is stopping VA Revolution from using County fields as well if they expand their rec program. What you are seeing here is a full on war with Loudoun Soccer. Revolution can grow because they have field certainty that Loudoun can no longer influence. If they grow then they can be on level footing for county field space with Loudoun soccer.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Revolution in ECNL within 5 years from now. They are going to be a huge thorn in Loudoun Soccer's side.

Because of purchasing a sports complex? How does your thought processing reach such ludicrous conclusion?

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely shocked that it's only valued at 4-5 million.

I saw that comment from a previous poster and that person is living in fantasy land. A regulation sized turf field with lighting is in the $1.7 - $2.0m range. That’s *one* field. You do the math.

Yeah, that sounds much more on point. Not to mention parking facilities and the stands and food/beverage facilities.

it all requires upkeep. The question is how much revenue does it really generate vs just a regular field with lights

Irrigation and irrigation maintenance, constant mowing, fall and spring treatments, line painting, fragile in weather.

which is nice if you compare it to grass, but what about turf fields without the grandstand?

What about them? Not sure what you are asking.

They have a lot to maintain vs. just a turf field with lights. The question is whether they will be able to generate enough income to maintain the property plus service the debt that they took on to buy it. They aren't exactly a huge club

There’s no debt to the new owners. And it’s hard to be HUGE when you were founded 3 years ago and your neighbors have been around since the late 70’s.

However, it is noteworthy to observe they’ve gone from one 1 team in Fall 2018 to fielding 30 or so in Fall 2021. NCSL and EDP are their current leagues. They have a partnership with GA for their most talented female players and one male player has already signed with DC United.

Gotta give credit to them. Who’s to know what they’ll look like in another 3 years? They’ve effectively kicked out those other clubs from their complex so I doubt they’ll stop growing.

They do seem to be squeezing out FCV other than top girls GA teams. I am sure they will also get Loudoun players not on the ECNL or Red teams. As far as LFC, ODFC, a bit of Sterling and maybe a bit of SWA they could / are taking from them as well it would seem. Plenty of room for two larger soccer clubs in Loudoun (LS and VAR) with FCV still serving the narrow boutique top notch girls market. Youth soccer clubs don’t need to be competitive from a business perspective. They can coexist. The real goal is to teach the game and help build healthy and confident young men and women, and for a limited number create avenues and opportunities to play in college or in the rare instance, beyond.

FCV is done in Loudoun beyond the United teams and the United teams will likely collapse if GA moves to Springfield. Nothing is stopping VA Revolution from using County fields as well if they expand their rec program. What you are seeing here is a full on war with Loudoun Soccer. Revolution can grow because they have field certainty that Loudoun can no longer influence. If they grow then they can be on level footing for county field space with Loudoun soccer.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Revolution in ECNL within 5 years from now. They are going to be a huge thorn in Loudoun Soccer's side.

Because of purchasing a sports complex? How does your thought processing reach such ludicrous conclusion?

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loudoun didn't have influence on revolutions usage of evergreen in the first place

revolution having 4 fields will now be used against them when it comes to access to county fields, look it up

if you think they have a better chance at ecnl than fcv did, i too have a sports complex for sale that i'd like to discuss with you

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely shocked that it's only valued at 4-5 million.

I saw that comment from a previous poster and that person is living in fantasy land. A regulation sized turf field with lighting is in the $1.7 - $2.0m range. That’s *one* field. You do the math.

Yeah, that sounds much more on point. Not to mention parking facilities and the stands and food/beverage facilities.

it all requires upkeep. The question is how much revenue does it really generate vs just a regular field with lights

Irrigation and irrigation maintenance, constant mowing, fall and spring treatments, line painting, fragile in weather.

which is nice if you compare it to grass, but what about turf fields without the grandstand?

What about them? Not sure what you are asking.

They have a lot to maintain vs. just a turf field with lights. The question is whether they will be able to generate enough income to maintain the property plus service the debt that they took on to buy it. They aren't exactly a huge club

There’s no debt to the new owners. And it’s hard to be HUGE when you were founded 3 years ago and your neighbors have been around since the late 70’s.

However, it is noteworthy to observe they’ve gone from one 1 team in Fall 2018 to fielding 30 or so in Fall 2021. NCSL and EDP are their current leagues. They have a partnership with GA for their most talented female players and one male player has already signed with DC United.

Gotta give credit to them. Who’s to know what they’ll look like in another 3 years? They’ve effectively kicked out those other clubs from their complex so I doubt they’ll stop growing.

They do seem to be squeezing out FCV other than top girls GA teams. I am sure they will also get Loudoun players not on the ECNL or Red teams. As far as LFC, ODFC, a bit of Sterling and maybe a bit of SWA they could / are taking from them as well it would seem. Plenty of room for two larger soccer clubs in Loudoun (LS and VAR) with FCV still serving the narrow boutique top notch girls market. Youth soccer clubs don’t need to be competitive from a business perspective. They can coexist. The real goal is to teach the game and help build healthy and confident young men and women, and for a limited number create avenues and opportunities to play in college or in the rare instance, beyond.

FCV is done in Loudoun beyond the United teams and the United teams will likely collapse if GA moves to Springfield. Nothing is stopping VA Revolution from using County fields as well if they expand their rec program. What you are seeing here is a full on war with Loudoun Soccer. Revolution can grow because they have field certainty that Loudoun can no longer influence. If they grow then they can be on level footing for county field space with Loudoun soccer.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Revolution in ECNL within 5 years from now. They are going to be a huge thorn in Loudoun Soccer's side.

Because of purchasing a sports complex? How does your thought processing reach such ludicrous conclusion?

+1

loudoun didn't have influence on revolutions usage of evergreen in the first place

revolution having 4 fields will now be used against them when it comes to access to county fields, look it up

if you think they have a better chance at ecnl than fcv did, i too have a sports complex for sale that i'd like to discuss with you

Naive. PP is right with taking over ECNL. That’ll be the thorn they’re talking about…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely shocked that it's only valued at 4-5 million.

I saw that comment from a previous poster and that person is living in fantasy land. A regulation sized turf field with lighting is in the $1.7 - $2.0m range. That’s *one* field. You do the math.

Yeah, that sounds much more on point. Not to mention parking facilities and the stands and food/beverage facilities.

it all requires upkeep. The question is how much revenue does it really generate vs just a regular field with lights

Irrigation and irrigation maintenance, constant mowing, fall and spring treatments, line painting, fragile in weather.

which is nice if you compare it to grass, but what about turf fields without the grandstand?

What about them? Not sure what you are asking.

They have a lot to maintain vs. just a turf field with lights. The question is whether they will be able to generate enough income to maintain the property plus service the debt that they took on to buy it. They aren't exactly a huge club

There’s no debt to the new owners. And it’s hard to be HUGE when you were founded 3 years ago and your neighbors have been around since the late 70’s.

However, it is noteworthy to observe they’ve gone from one 1 team in Fall 2018 to fielding 30 or so in Fall 2021. NCSL and EDP are their current leagues. They have a partnership with GA for their most talented female players and one male player has already signed with DC United.

Gotta give credit to them. Who’s to know what they’ll look like in another 3 years? They’ve effectively kicked out those other clubs from their complex so I doubt they’ll stop growing.

They do seem to be squeezing out FCV other than top girls GA teams. I am sure they will also get Loudoun players not on the ECNL or Red teams. As far as LFC, ODFC, a bit of Sterling and maybe a bit of SWA they could / are taking from them as well it would seem. Plenty of room for two larger soccer clubs in Loudoun (LS and VAR) with FCV still serving the narrow boutique top notch girls market. Youth soccer clubs don’t need to be competitive from a business perspective. They can coexist. The real goal is to teach the game and help build healthy and confident young men and women, and for a limited number create avenues and opportunities to play in college or in the rare instance, beyond.

FCV is done in Loudoun beyond the United teams and the United teams will likely collapse if GA moves to Springfield. Nothing is stopping VA Revolution from using County fields as well if they expand their rec program. What you are seeing here is a full on war with Loudoun Soccer. Revolution can grow because they have field certainty that Loudoun can no longer influence. If they grow then they can be on level footing for county field space with Loudoun soccer.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Revolution in ECNL within 5 years from now. They are going to be a huge thorn in Loudoun Soccer's side.

Because of purchasing a sports complex? How does your thought processing reach such ludicrous conclusion?

+1

loudoun didn't have influence on revolutions usage of evergreen in the first place

revolution having 4 fields will now be used against them when it comes to access to county fields, look it up

if you think they have a better chance at ecnl than fcv did, i too have a sports complex for sale that i'd like to discuss with you

Yeah, Loudoun Soccer Park has been holding Loudoun back for years with getting county fields.

[Anonymous]

There are lots of HS turf field in Loudoun now and many club teams use for practices. Seems like a new HS is built every other year in our county. Also Hanson park is coming …
https://www.loudoun.gov/2652/Hal-Berni-Hanson-Regional-Park