trump has the Pentagon planning something big right now.

[Anonymous]

Does it matter if rank and file military support Trump or not? Until Jan 20th, he's the CIC, and they'll follow orders whether they like them or not, or like who is giving them. So long as it is not clearly illegal.

Trump is cutting his vacation short and returning to the WH today. I'd put this in the 'not good' category.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If this is correct, hopefully someone with character will stand up to Trump. Not hopeful.

“Character” and “military” are mutually exclusive terms. Remember, these are the same people who bomb hospitals and strap bombs to dolphins. If you’re relying on them to do the right thing, you’re going to be very disappointed

I'm very thankful that my freedoms and those of my family and this country aren't dependent on people like you.

LOL as retired military, the freedoms enjoyed in this country are not won on a battlefield but in the courts. The ACLU lawyers are the ones protecting your freedoms.

The military was very close to taking your rights away this summer....very very close. Milley was right there with trump. Right now the military is planning and war gaming different scenarios involving trump and armed militia groups. These planning sessions are not being shared with civilian leadership.

THIS. The FACT is that Milley was imminently about to go much, much farther than merely deploy troops against protestors. Fact. He only walked it back well after the fact, and then only after multiple retired flag officers publicly denounced him. Powell, Mattis, McRaven, Stavrides, and Clapper ALL knew what Milley was doing and they all spoke up, both publicly and privately. But for them, ...

This is la la land. There is no evidence that troops would be deployed. They can't be legally. There were no plans. And there were no troops put on alert -- so it was not very very close. Even if they were, I would not expect those orders to be followed. This is legacy stuff. No one would do this under these facts. You are either Borris or a conspiracy nut.

I think lala land is a good description of many of the posts on this thread....

Wtf? I guess you are just lying and spreading false information right? What the f is wrong with people like you?

WASHINGTON — Several hundred active-duty troops brought in to help if needed with the civil unrest in the nation’s capitol are leaving Washington, D.C. Thursday, just a day after their initially planned departure was abruptly delayed.

The soldiers with the 82nd Airborne Division have been kept at military bases outside the city, and will now return to Fort Bragg, N.C., according to a defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss impending troop movements. The official said Defense Secretary Mark Esper has approved the move.

... The soldiers are the first active-duty to leave. The remainder of the active-duty troops are expected to get pulled home in the coming days if conditions allow. The active-duty troops were available, but were not used in response to the protests.

About 1,300 active-duty troops were brought in to the capital region early this week as protests in the city turned violent. The protests came in the aftermath of the death in Minnesota of a black man, George Floyd, who died after a white police officer pressed his knee to Floyd’s neck for several minutes.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/06/04/82nd-airborne-soldiers-deployed-dc-region-start-leave.html

The deployments of active-duty troops to unidentified bases in what the military calls the National Capital Region, which consists of D.C. and its immediate surroundings in Virginia and Maryland, included more than 200 military police officers from Fort Bragg, N.C., and, separately, an undisclosed element of the 82nd Airborne Division’s Immediate Response Force, defense officials said Tuesday. The 82nd soldiers, also from Fort Bragg, were last activated for a short-notice deployment in January to the Middle East amid escalating tensions with Iran.

Pentagon and Army officials on Tuesday declined to say whether additional active-duty troops had been sent to the Washington area or how many troops had been moved into the region. They did not provide an explanation for the decision not to disclose the information.

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/at-trump-s-command-pentagon-rushes-active-duty-troops-to-dc-but-prefers-not-to-use-them-1.632173

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does it matter if rank and file military support Trump or not? Until Jan 20th, he's the CIC, and they'll follow orders whether they like them or not, or like who is giving them. So long as it is not clearly illegal.

Trump is cutting his vacation short and returning to the WH today. I'd put this in the 'not good' category.

They are replenishing the Depends in the WH as we speak.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If this is correct, hopefully someone with character will stand up to Trump. Not hopeful.

“Character” and “military” are mutually exclusive terms. Remember, these are the same people who bomb hospitals and strap bombs to dolphins. If you’re relying on them to do the right thing, you’re going to be very disappointed

I'm very thankful that my freedoms and those of my family and this country aren't dependent on people like you.

LOL as retired military, the freedoms enjoyed in this country are not won on a battlefield but in the courts. The ACLU lawyers are the ones protecting your freedoms.

The military was very close to taking your rights away this summer....very very close. Milley was right there with trump. Right now the military is planning and war gaming different scenarios involving trump and armed militia groups. These planning sessions are not being shared with civilian leadership.

THIS. The FACT is that Milley was imminently about to go much, much farther than merely deploy troops against protestors. Fact. He only walked it back well after the fact, and then only after multiple retired flag officers publicly denounced him. Powell, Mattis, McRaven, Stavrides, and Clapper ALL knew what Milley was doing and they all spoke up, both publicly and privately. But for them, ...

This is la la land. There is no evidence that troops would be deployed. They can't be legally. There were no plans. And there were no troops put on alert -- so it was not very very close. Even if they were, I would not expect those orders to be followed. This is legacy stuff. No one would do this under these facts. You are either Borris or a conspiracy nut.

I think lala land is a good description of many of the posts on this thread....

Wtf? I guess you are just lying and spreading false information right? What the f is wrong with people like you?

WASHINGTON — Several hundred active-duty troops brought in to help if needed with the civil unrest in the nation’s capitol are leaving Washington, D.C. Thursday, just a day after their initially planned departure was abruptly delayed.

The soldiers with the 82nd Airborne Division have been kept at military bases outside the city, and will now return to Fort Bragg, N.C., according to a defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss impending troop movements. The official said Defense Secretary Mark Esper has approved the move.

... The soldiers are the first active-duty to leave. The remainder of the active-duty troops are expected to get pulled home in the coming days if conditions allow. The active-duty troops were available, but were not used in response to the protests.

About 1,300 active-duty troops were brought in to the capital region early this week as protests in the city turned violent. The protests came in the aftermath of the death in Minnesota of a black man, George Floyd, who died after a white police officer pressed his knee to Floyd’s neck for several minutes.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/06/04/82nd-airborne-soldiers-deployed-dc-region-start-leave.html

The deployments of active-duty troops to unidentified bases in what the military calls the National Capital Region, which consists of D.C. and its immediate surroundings in Virginia and Maryland, included more than 200 military police officers from Fort Bragg, N.C., and, separately, an undisclosed element of the 82nd Airborne Division’s Immediate Response Force, defense officials said Tuesday. The 82nd soldiers, also from Fort Bragg, were last activated for a short-notice deployment in January to the Middle East amid escalating tensions with Iran.

Pentagon and Army officials on Tuesday declined to say whether additional active-duty troops had been sent to the Washington area or how many troops had been moved into the region. They did not provide an explanation for the decision not to disclose the information.

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/at-trump-s-command-pentagon-rushes-active-duty-troops-to-dc-but-prefers-not-to-use-them-1.632173

Isn't this about concern for potential riots January 6 and 20?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is correct, hopefully someone with character will stand up to Trump. Not hopeful.

“Character” and “military” are mutually exclusive terms. Remember, these are the same people who bomb hospitals and strap bombs to dolphins. If you’re relying on them to do the right thing, you’re going to be very disappointed

I'm very thankful that my freedoms and those of my family and this country aren't dependent on people like you.

LOL as retired military, the freedoms enjoyed in this country are not won on a battlefield but in the courts. The ACLU lawyers are the ones protecting your freedoms.

The military was very close to taking your rights away this summer....very very close. Milley was right there with trump. Right now the military is planning and war gaming different scenarios involving trump and armed militia groups. These planning sessions are not being shared with civilian leadership.

THIS. The FACT is that Milley was imminently about to go much, much farther than merely deploy troops against protestors. Fact. He only walked it back well after the fact, and then only after multiple retired flag officers publicly denounced him. Powell, Mattis, McRaven, Stavrides, and Clapper ALL knew what Milley was doing and they all spoke up, both publicly and privately. But for them, ...

This is la la land. There is no evidence that troops would be deployed. They can't be legally. There were no plans. And there were no troops put on alert -- so it was not very very close. Even if they were, I would not expect those orders to be followed. This is legacy stuff. No one would do this under these facts. You are either Borris or a conspiracy nut.

I think lala land is a good description of many of the posts on this thread....

Wtf? I guess you are just lying and spreading false information right? What the f is wrong with people like you?

WASHINGTON — Several hundred active-duty troops brought in to help if needed with the civil unrest in the nation’s capitol are leaving Washington, D.C. Thursday, just a day after their initially planned departure was abruptly delayed.

The soldiers with the 82nd Airborne Division have been kept at military bases outside the city, and will now return to Fort Bragg, N.C., according to a defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss impending troop movements. The official said Defense Secretary Mark Esper has approved the move.

... The soldiers are the first active-duty to leave. The remainder of the active-duty troops are expected to get pulled home in the coming days if conditions allow. The active-duty troops were available, but were not used in response to the protests.

About 1,300 active-duty troops were brought in to the capital region early this week as protests in the city turned violent. The protests came in the aftermath of the death in Minnesota of a black man, George Floyd, who died after a white police officer pressed his knee to Floyd’s neck for several minutes.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/06/04/82nd-airborne-soldiers-deployed-dc-region-start-leave.html

The deployments of active-duty troops to unidentified bases in what the military calls the National Capital Region, which consists of D.C. and its immediate surroundings in Virginia and Maryland, included more than 200 military police officers from Fort Bragg, N.C., and, separately, an undisclosed element of the 82nd Airborne Division’s Immediate Response Force, defense officials said Tuesday. The 82nd soldiers, also from Fort Bragg, were last activated for a short-notice deployment in January to the Middle East amid escalating tensions with Iran.

Pentagon and Army officials on Tuesday declined to say whether additional active-duty troops had been sent to the Washington area or how many troops had been moved into the region. They did not provide an explanation for the decision not to disclose the information.

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/at-trump-s-command-pentagon-rushes-active-duty-troops-to-dc-but-prefers-not-to-use-them-1.632173

LOL who you going to believe? Those commies over at Stars and Stripes and military.com or unhinged trump loyalist saying people are living in Layla land.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If this is correct, hopefully someone with character will stand up to Trump. Not hopeful.

“Character” and “military” are mutually exclusive terms. Remember, these are the same people who bomb hospitals and strap bombs to dolphins. If you’re relying on them to do the right thing, you’re going to be very disappointed

I'm very thankful that my freedoms and those of my family and this country aren't dependent on people like you.

LOL as retired military, the freedoms enjoyed in this country are not won on a battlefield but in the courts. The ACLU lawyers are the ones protecting your freedoms.

The military was very close to taking your rights away this summer....very very close. Milley was right there with trump. Right now the military is planning and war gaming different scenarios involving trump and armed militia groups. These planning sessions are not being shared with civilian leadership.

THIS. The FACT is that Milley was imminently about to go much, much farther than merely deploy troops against protestors. Fact. He only walked it back well after the fact, and then only after multiple retired flag officers publicly denounced him. Powell, Mattis, McRaven, Stavrides, and Clapper ALL knew what Milley was doing and they all spoke up, both publicly and privately. But for them, ...

This is la la land. There is no evidence that troops would be deployed. They can't be legally. There were no plans. And there were no troops put on alert -- so it was not very very close. Even if they were, I would not expect those orders to be followed. This is legacy stuff. No one would do this under these facts. You are either Borris or a conspiracy nut.

I think lala land is a good description of many of the posts on this thread....

Wtf? I guess you are just lying and spreading false information right? What the f is wrong with people like you?

WASHINGTON — Several hundred active-duty troops brought in to help if needed with the civil unrest in the nation’s capitol are leaving Washington, D.C. Thursday, just a day after their initially planned departure was abruptly delayed.

The soldiers with the 82nd Airborne Division have been kept at military bases outside the city, and will now return to Fort Bragg, N.C., according to a defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss impending troop movements. The official said Defense Secretary Mark Esper has approved the move.

... The soldiers are the first active-duty to leave. The remainder of the active-duty troops are expected to get pulled home in the coming days if conditions allow. The active-duty troops were available, but were not used in response to the protests.

About 1,300 active-duty troops were brought in to the capital region early this week as protests in the city turned violent. The protests came in the aftermath of the death in Minnesota of a black man, George Floyd, who died after a white police officer pressed his knee to Floyd’s neck for several minutes.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/06/04/82nd-airborne-soldiers-deployed-dc-region-start-leave.html

The deployments of active-duty troops to unidentified bases in what the military calls the National Capital Region, which consists of D.C. and its immediate surroundings in Virginia and Maryland, included more than 200 military police officers from Fort Bragg, N.C., and, separately, an undisclosed element of the 82nd Airborne Division’s Immediate Response Force, defense officials said Tuesday. The 82nd soldiers, also from Fort Bragg, were last activated for a short-notice deployment in January to the Middle East amid escalating tensions with Iran.

Pentagon and Army officials on Tuesday declined to say whether additional active-duty troops had been sent to the Washington area or how many troops had been moved into the region. They did not provide an explanation for the decision not to disclose the information.

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/at-trump-s-command-pentagon-rushes-active-duty-troops-to-dc-but-prefers-not-to-use-them-1.632173

Isn't this about concern for potential riots January 6 and 20?

This is la la land. There is no evidence that troops would be deployed. They can't be legally. There were no plans. And there were no troops put on alert -- so it was not very very close. Even if they were, I would not expect those orders to be followed. This is legacy stuff. No one would do this under these facts. You are either Borris or a conspiracy nut.

[Anonymous]

More details about the transition issues with DOD and OMB. OMB political leadership clearly stating they will be working to further Trump's agenda until the end of his administration. For example, Biden requested they desist with the wall and they said forget it. Changes were made at that agency to empower the appointees, so somehow this does not surprise me, and I guess legally they have the right to move forward this agenda until Jan 20:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/19/white-house-budget-authority-political-appointees-398668

My guess is something similar is happening with the recently installed loyalists at the Pentagon. The technocrats still in place at the ASD/DASD level are moving along with the transition but I bet some of the loyalists are delaying/not fully cooperating etc. The article only says it has to do with "military operations," which could mean almost anything.

[Anonymous]

^^^
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/532146-biden-frustration-grows-over-lack-of-trump-cooperation-in-transition

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust the military at all. The officer members are made up of people who couldn’t get into good schools (sorry, West Point and Annapolis aren’t good schools, regardless of what you hear) and make it in the business/legal/medical/professional/political world. So they opted for the service, chasing a pension and a cushy job at a defense contractor or the federal govt after they “retire” at 42-44 after 20 years. The enlisted members are even worse, not able to even make it in community colleges, and looking for any way to escape their pathetic lives in one stoplight towns from red state America.

Both groups are jingoistic low brow Neanderthals, who think violence is a reasonable solution for countries to resolve their differences.

If there is indeed a coup planned, it will have the backing of the military. There may be a few in the ranks who object, but the majority will support it, knowing they’ll be part of the ruling class if it’s successful. Something they’d never otherwise be a part of on their own as a civilian.

I’ve never been as scared to be in this country as I am right now. The next few weeks will be absolutely terrifying waiting to see if something happens.

And if it happens, I can only imagine the fate that awaits me and millions like me. I fear we will all end up in mass graves. That’s what always happens when men like trump are faced with the choice of staying in power.

General Milley was Army ROTC at Princeton. Just sayin.

Milley was the class moron at Princeton. He was viewed by classmates as a dumb weirdo, and he has absolutely carried the water for Trump since his appointment - his absolute fealty to a dictator is exactly why he was selected.

[Anonymous]

Trump is en route back DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust the military at all. The officer members are made up of people who couldn’t get into good schools (sorry, West Point and Annapolis aren’t good schools, regardless of what you hear) and make it in the business/legal/medical/professional/political world. So they opted for the service, chasing a pension and a cushy job at a defense contractor or the federal govt after they “retire” at 42-44 after 20 years. The enlisted members are even worse, not able to even make it in community colleges, and looking for any way to escape their pathetic lives in one stoplight towns from red state America.

Both groups are jingoistic low brow Neanderthals, who think violence is a reasonable solution for countries to resolve their differences.

If there is indeed a coup planned, it will have the backing of the military. There may be a few in the ranks who object, but the majority will support it, knowing they’ll be part of the ruling class if it’s successful. Something they’d never otherwise be a part of on their own as a civilian.

I’ve never been as scared to be in this country as I am right now. The next few weeks will be absolutely terrifying waiting to see if something happens.

And if it happens, I can only imagine the fate that awaits me and millions like me. I fear we will all end up in mass graves. That’s what always happens when men like trump are faced with the choice of staying in power.

General Milley was Army ROTC at Princeton. Just sayin.

Milley was the class moron at Princeton. He was viewed by classmates as a dumb weirdo, and he has absolutely carried the water for Trump since his appointment - his absolute fealty to a dictator is exactly why he was selected.

Point is, people like you can't even get in, so you have no real reason to stereotype military officers as morons and even less cause to feed your own fears with rumors and innuendo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust the military at all. The officer members are made up of people who couldn’t get into good schools (sorry, West Point and Annapolis aren’t good schools, regardless of what you hear) and make it in the business/legal/medical/professional/political world. So they opted for the service, chasing a pension and a cushy job at a defense contractor or the federal govt after they “retire” at 42-44 after 20 years. The enlisted members are even worse, not able to even make it in community colleges, and looking for any way to escape their pathetic lives in one stoplight towns from red state America.

Both groups are jingoistic low brow Neanderthals, who think violence is a reasonable solution for countries to resolve their differences.

If there is indeed a coup planned, it will have the backing of the military. There may be a few in the ranks who object, but the majority will support it, knowing they’ll be part of the ruling class if it’s successful. Something they’d never otherwise be a part of on their own as a civilian.

I’ve never been as scared to be in this country as I am right now. The next few weeks will be absolutely terrifying waiting to see if something happens.

And if it happens, I can only imagine the fate that awaits me and millions like me. I fear we will all end up in mass graves. That’s what always happens when men like trump are faced with the choice of staying in power.

General Milley was Army ROTC at Princeton. Just sayin.

Milley was the class moron at Princeton. He was viewed by classmates as a dumb weirdo, and he has absolutely carried the water for Trump since his appointment - his absolute fealty to a dictator is exactly why he was selected.

He may be many things, but "dumb" and "moron" don't apply. He's a graduate of Princeton and Columbia.

[Anonymous]

I participated earlier in this thread. Sad to see Penn 08 ruin it. I don’t think a coup is afoot. I think there are credible threats against the US and the military is tooling up. They would bring Trump back for access to his bunker and Mt Weather.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust the military at all. The officer members are made up of people who couldn’t get into good schools (sorry, West Point and Annapolis aren’t good schools, regardless of what you hear) and make it in the business/legal/medical/professional/political world. So they opted for the service, chasing a pension and a cushy job at a defense contractor or the federal govt after they “retire” at 42-44 after 20 years. The enlisted members are even worse, not able to even make it in community colleges, and looking for any way to escape their pathetic lives in one stoplight towns from red state America.

Both groups are jingoistic low brow Neanderthals, who think violence is a reasonable solution for countries to resolve their differences.

If there is indeed a coup planned, it will have the backing of the military. There may be a few in the ranks who object, but the majority will support it, knowing they’ll be part of the ruling class if it’s successful. Something they’d never otherwise be a part of on their own as a civilian.

I’ve never been as scared to be in this country as I am right now. The next few weeks will be absolutely terrifying waiting to see if something happens.

And if it happens, I can only imagine the fate that awaits me and millions like me. I fear we will all end up in mass graves. That’s what always happens when men like trump are faced with the choice of staying in power.

General Milley was Army ROTC at Princeton. Just sayin.

Milley was the class moron at Princeton. He was viewed by classmates as a dumb weirdo, and he has absolutely carried the water for Trump since his appointment - his absolute fealty to a dictator is exactly why he was selected.

Point is, people like you can't even get in, so you have no real reason to stereotype military officers as morons and even less cause to feed your own fears with rumors and innuendo.

Wrong. Former commissioned officer, but had no interest in being on welfare for a living.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t trust the military at all. The officer members are made up of people who couldn’t get into good schools (sorry, West Point and Annapolis aren’t good schools, regardless of what you hear) and make it in the business/legal/medical/professional/political world. So they opted for the service, chasing a pension and a cushy job at a defense contractor or the federal govt after they “retire” at 42-44 after 20 years. The enlisted members are even worse, not able to even make it in community colleges, and looking for any way to escape their pathetic lives in one stoplight towns from red state America.

Both groups are jingoistic low brow Neanderthals, who think violence is a reasonable solution for countries to resolve their differences.

If there is indeed a coup planned, it will have the backing of the military. There may be a few in the ranks who object, but the majority will support it, knowing they’ll be part of the ruling class if it’s successful. Something they’d never otherwise be a part of on their own as a civilian.

I’ve never been as scared to be in this country as I am right now. The next few weeks will be absolutely terrifying waiting to see if something happens.

And if it happens, I can only imagine the fate that awaits me and millions like me. I fear we will all end up in mass graves. That’s what always happens when men like trump are faced with the choice of staying in power.

General Milley was Army ROTC at Princeton. Just sayin.

Milley was the class moron at Princeton. He was viewed by classmates as a dumb weirdo, and he has absolutely carried the water for Trump since his appointment - his absolute fealty to a dictator is exactly why he was selected.

Point is, people like you can't even get in, so you have no real reason to stereotype military officers as morons and even less cause to feed your own fears with rumors and innuendo.

Wrong. Former commissioned officer, but had no interest in being on welfare for a living.

Your bitterness is on display.