December 17 - TJ decision?

[Anonymous]

The TJ AAG that wanted a lottery is now attacking all the School Board members except the four who voted for a lottery. The Coalition for TJ that wanted to maintain the status quo is bemoaning the demise of TJ. It takes a special skill set to make both groups unhappy, but that's FCPS these days.

When you parse this, the only "winners" are the pork-barrel members of the School Board from southern Fairfax (Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Derenak Kaufax) who desperately wanted to be able to tell people in their districts that now a few kids from Holmes, Whitman, and Key will be going to TJ. It won't necessarily be many, and who knows if those kids will be White, Asian, Black, or Brown kids at this point, but they'll be able to tell their constituents they stuck it to other families at Carson, Cooper, Longfellow, and Rocky Run. Since their agenda is based primarily on resentment towards the northern and western parts of the county, they'll see this as a victory, even if most are left scratching their heads as to whether all this commotion really accomplished much.

[Anonymous]

So if I go to an AAP Center I have to compete with those kids for the 1.5%. But if I go to private, I enter pool with the schoo to which I’m zoned?

Won’t all the kids from Justice come from private schools like Congressional?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The TJ AAG that wanted a lottery is now attacking all the School Board members except the four who voted for a lottery. The Coalition for TJ that wanted to maintain the status quo is bemoaning the demise of TJ. It takes a special skill set to make both groups unhappy, but that's FCPS these days.

When you parse this, the only "winners" are the pork-barrel members of the School Board from southern Fairfax (Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Derenak Kaufax) who desperately wanted to be able to tell people in their districts that now a few kids from Holmes, Whitman, and Key will be going to TJ. It won't necessarily be many, and who knows if those kids will be White, Asian, Black, or Brown kids at this point, but they'll be able to tell their constituents they stuck it to other families at Carson, Cooper, Longfellow, and Rocky Run. Since their agenda is based primarily on resentment towards the northern and western parts of the county, they'll see this as a victory, even if most are left scratching their heads as to whether all this commotion really accomplished much.

I had the exact same thought as I watched two people on opposite sides of this debate melt into puddles on Twitter.

[Anonymous]

Doesn’t the SB realize that you can’t just throw a lawyer up there at the end and say “admission can’t co sister race” and expect it not now not be challenged?

This is ALL about race. This did not start talking about geographic diversity. And they have still made clear diversifying race is the goal by the reporting back to the SB.

All you’ve done is make it easier for kids who go to private schools that live in crappy districts to get in. Those kids are in private for a reason — their parents have money and they live in a crappy district. It will in no way help diversity.

And how does this impact Arlington kids who apply? They have to get in competing against who? How are they accounted for in all this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if I go to an AAP Center I have to compete with those kids for the 1.5%. But if I go to private, I enter pool with the schoo to which I’m zoned?

Won’t all the kids from Justice come from private schools like Congressional?

Only if kids at schools like Congressional see TJ as a meaningful alternative to what they already have.

Or their parents are running out of funds, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if I go to an AAP Center I have to compete with those kids for the 1.5%. But if I go to private, I enter pool with the schoo to which I’m zoned?

Won’t all the kids from Justice come from private schools like Congressional?

They said it would be based on the middle school that you attend, not the base middle school to which you're assigned. So that makes me think private school kids aren't included in the 1.5% at all, but instead would get admitted from the residual county-wide pool. The goal is to boost the numbers coming from Glasgow (the MS feeder to Justice), not Congressional.

But of course they'll probably have to spend weeks now drafting FAQs so people understand what they are planning for next year and the years to come. Of course, they don't want to share too much information, because they won't want anyone "gaming" the new process!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t the SB realize that you can’t just throw a lawyer up there at the end and say “admission can’t co sister race” and expect it not now not be challenged?

This is ALL about race. This did not start talking about geographic diversity. And they have still made clear diversifying race is the goal by the reporting back to the SB.

All you’ve done is make it easier for kids who go to private schools that live in crappy districts to get in. Those kids are in private for a reason — their parents have money and they live in a crappy district. It will in no way help diversity.

And how does this impact Arlington kids who apply? They have to get in competing against who? How are they accounted for in all this?

I believe this will make it harder for kids attending private schools to get in, not easier. They will be competing against public kids as before, but in a smaller pool given the set-asides by FCPS middle school. And the "experience factors" that FCPS is committing to consider will look more favorably on escaping a gang in El Salvador than getting a bad sunburn in Vail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t the SB realize that you can’t just throw a lawyer up there at the end and say “admission can’t co sister race” and expect it not now not be challenged?

This is ALL about race. This did not start talking about geographic diversity. And they have still made clear diversifying race is the goal by the reporting back to the SB.

All you’ve done is make it easier for kids who go to private schools that live in crappy districts to get in. Those kids are in private for a reason — their parents have money and they live in a crappy district. It will in no way help diversity.

And how does this impact Arlington kids who apply? They have to get in competing against who? How are they accounted for in all this?

I believe this will make it harder for kids attending private schools to get in, not easier. They will be competing against public kids as before, but in a smaller pool given the set-asides by FCPS middle school. And the "experience factors" that FCPS is committing to consider will look more favorably on escaping a gang in El Salvador than getting a bad sunburn in Vail.

Someone explain how this is race neutral?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The TJ AAG that wanted a lottery is now attacking all the School Board members except the four who voted for a lottery. The Coalition for TJ that wanted to maintain the status quo is bemoaning the demise of TJ. It takes a special skill set to make both groups unhappy, but that's FCPS these days.

When you parse this, the only "winners" are the pork-barrel members of the School Board from southern Fairfax (Anderson, Corbett Sanders and Derenak Kaufax) who desperately wanted to be able to tell people in their districts that now a few kids from Holmes, Whitman, and Key will be going to TJ. It won't necessarily be many, and who knows if those kids will be White, Asian, Black, or Brown kids at this point, but they'll be able to tell their constituents they stuck it to other families at Carson, Cooper, Longfellow, and Rocky Run. Since their agenda is based primarily on resentment towards the northern and western parts of the county, they'll see this as a victory, even if most are left scratching their heads as to whether all this commotion really accomplished much.

And then we have the recent numbers on a Mclean HS to Langley HS boundary change. Numbers up the week before and excluded the TJ effect. The incompetent fools and Brabrand/Platenburg also never administratively moved the Toll Brothers development from Spring Hill ES to Colvin Run ES. Colvin Run is undercapacity and Spring Hill is it's usual Tysons hover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if I go to an AAP Center I have to compete with those kids for the 1.5%. But if I go to private, I enter pool with the schoo to which I’m zoned?

Won’t all the kids from Justice come from private schools like Congressional?

They said it would be based on the middle school that you attend, not the base middle school to which you're assigned. So that makes me think private school kids aren't included in the 1.5% at all, but instead would get admitted from the residual county-wide pool. The goal is to boost the numbers coming from Glasgow (the MS feeder to Justice), not Congressional.

But of course they'll probably have to spend weeks now drafting FAQs so people understand what they are planning for next year and the years to come. Of course, they don't want to share too much information, because they won't want anyone "gaming" the new process!

Whoever is suing needs to add that to its claim. How can they treat kids going to private school that live next door to a kid attending the public middle school any differently in this process?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if I go to an AAP Center I have to compete with those kids for the 1.5%. But if I go to private, I enter pool with the schoo to which I’m zoned?

Won’t all the kids from Justice come from private schools like Congressional?

They said it would be based on the middle school that you attend, not the base middle school to which you're assigned. So that makes me think private school kids aren't included in the 1.5% at all, but instead would get admitted from the residual county-wide pool. The goal is to boost the numbers coming from Glasgow (the MS feeder to Justice), not Congressional.

But of course they'll probably have to spend weeks now drafting FAQs so people understand what they are planning for next year and the years to come. Of course, they don't want to share too much information, because they won't want anyone "gaming" the new process!

Whoever is suing needs to add that to its claim. How can they treat kids going to private school that live next door to a kid attending the public middle school any differently in this process?

because private school students aren't a protected class

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, there goes TJ being the best high school in the country. This is the end result of leftist ideology, not an improvement for the masses, but a cutting down of the top performers.

You get what you vote for.

The top performers will still be top performers. Their parents just won't be able to drive around with TJ stickers on their cars.

TJ provides superior quality education than other surrounding schools. Those top performers will now not perform as well as if they had gone to TJ. Meanwhile, TJ's performance as a school will be brought down to a lower level. So the school suffers, the better-academically-qualified students suffer, all so that there are more students of the desirable skin color in the school.

so it's a bad thing different kids get access to a superior education? The top 1.5% are going to be smart enough to excel

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if I go to an AAP Center I have to compete with those kids for the 1.5%. But if I go to private, I enter pool with the schoo to which I’m zoned?

Won’t all the kids from Justice come from private schools like Congressional?

They said it would be based on the middle school that you attend, not the base middle school to which you're assigned. So that makes me think private school kids aren't included in the 1.5% at all, but instead would get admitted from the residual county-wide pool. The goal is to boost the numbers coming from Glasgow (the MS feeder to Justice), not Congressional.

But of course they'll probably have to spend weeks now drafting FAQs so people understand what they are planning for next year and the years to come. Of course, they don't want to share too much information, because they won't want anyone "gaming" the new process!

Whoever is suing needs to add that to its claim. How can they treat kids going to private school that live next door to a kid attending the public middle school any differently in this process?

because private school students aren't a protected class

But if geographic diversity is their stated goal, their admissions standards should be based on geography of the County. Not doing so indicates the real goal is race — hence, why anyone suing should use it to prove that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, there goes TJ being the best high school in the country. This is the end result of leftist ideology, not an improvement for the masses, but a cutting down of the top performers.

You get what you vote for.

The top performers will still be top performers. Their parents just won't be able to drive around with TJ stickers on their cars.

TJ provides superior quality education than other surrounding schools. Those top performers will now not perform as well as if they had gone to TJ. Meanwhile, TJ's performance as a school will be brought down to a lower level. So the school suffers, the better-academically-qualified students suffer, all so that there are more students of the desirable skin color in the school.

so it's a bad thing different kids get access to a superior education? The top 1.5% are going to be smart enough to excel

Given the low minimal requirements and the greater subjectivity inherent in the “holistic review,” it remains to be seen whether the students selected will “excel” or whether instead TJ will have to adjust its demands.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if I go to an AAP Center I have to compete with those kids for the 1.5%. But if I go to private, I enter pool with the schoo to which I’m zoned?

Won’t all the kids from Justice come from private schools like Congressional?

They said it would be based on the middle school that you attend, not the base middle school to which you're assigned. So that makes me think private school kids aren't included in the 1.5% at all, but instead would get admitted from the residual county-wide pool. The goal is to boost the numbers coming from Glasgow (the MS feeder to Justice), not Congressional.

But of course they'll probably have to spend weeks now drafting FAQs so people understand what they are planning for next year and the years to come. Of course, they don't want to share too much information, because they won't want anyone "gaming" the new process!

Whoever is suing needs to add that to its claim. How can they treat kids going to private school that live next door to a kid attending the public middle school any differently in this process?

because private school students aren't a protected class

But if geographic diversity is their stated goal, their admissions standards should be based on geography of the County. Not doing so indicates the real goal is race — hence, why anyone suing should use it to prove that.

Courts don’t toss out solutions because they aren’t perfect