Update on Harvard Lawsuit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess I just don't understand affirmative action.

I just think diversity, if that is the goal, should not involve the color of skin.

These institutions say they want people of all different experiences and walks of life so that everyone can be enriched by exposure to new ideas and perspectives.

The color of skin DOES NOT tell you anything substantial about the history, the education, the finances, the life history, the struggle, etc, of anyone.

Hell, just on my street, we got people of all colors, but I would hardly call us a diverse group, bc we are all high earning, college (mostly grad school, actually) educated professionals who came from high earning, educated, professional families. Everyone's married. Everyone has kids. Everyone decorates for the holidays despite different religions, everyone is friendly, everyone keeps their lawn nice, every house has at least one luxury car, etc...

But schools and work diversity is literally skin deep, which makes NO SENSE bc the AA kids at my son's $30k a year elite private school have literally NOTHING ELSE IN COMMON from an AA kid from a poor food-desert-gang-infested neighborhood.

That's why the way "diversity" is currently handled on its face is so racist.

"You're black, so you must have struggled and had druggie parents."
"You're asian, so school is easy for you and you are an academic automaton with no personality or friends...let's deduct 150 points off your SAT."
"You're white, so you can't possibly have overcome any challenges in your life."

Blah blah blah...it's ridiculous.

Don't expect crazy Americans to argue with logic.

Their only language is skin color.

[Anonymous]

I am a Democratic Party fundraiser and lawyer but am also Asian. I hate Trump, except on this.

[Anonymous]

Harvard is truly f**ked!

https://www.vox.com/2018/10/2/17928040/brett-kavanaugh-harvard-law-school


No more "you scratch my back, I will yours" with this dude..

[Anonymous]

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In regards to other students and families at your private school, people will let you see what they want you to see. I’m very selective about the personal details I share about my life because I know/seen not everyone has good intentions. So you won’t know what I may or may not have in common with other African-American families at the school.

The funny thing about race across different socioeconomic classes is that the one thing you do have in common is the stereotype. Whether are the AA with UMC family or AA from LMC family, the stereotypes you face are the same and the racism can look similar.

This is quite unfortunate and true. Why is it OK to benefit from this if you are say, black but not OK to benefit from this if you are Asian (where a poor-performing Asian Kid is compared to other Asians who are high-performing and held to that same standard)? Not trying to put down AA at all, just trying to understand.

In colleges where Asians are under-represented, Asians do benefit from it.

In what colleges are Asians under-represented?

They are under-represented based on merits.

[Anonymous]

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In regards to other students and families at your private school, people will let you see what they want you to see. I’m very selective about the personal details I share about my life because I know/seen not everyone has good intentions. So you won’t know what I may or may not have in common with other African-American families at the school.

The funny thing about race across different socioeconomic classes is that the one thing you do have in common is the stereotype. Whether are the AA with UMC family or AA from LMC family, the stereotypes you face are the same and the racism can look similar.

This is quite unfortunate and true. Why is it OK to benefit from this if you are say, black but not OK to benefit from this if you are Asian (where a poor-performing Asian Kid is compared to other Asians who are high-performing and held to that same standard)? Not trying to put down AA at all, just trying to understand.

In colleges where Asians are under-represented, Asians do benefit from it.

In what colleges are Asians under-represented?

They are under-represented based on merits.

Exactly.

They are underrepresented everywhere.

Same as Jews were in the 19th and 20th centuries here in the US.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
In regards to other students and families at your private school, people will let you see what they want you to see. I’m very selective about the personal details I share about my life because I know/seen not everyone has good intentions. So you won’t know what I may or may not have in common with other African-American families at the school.

The funny thing about race across different socioeconomic classes is that the one thing you do have in common is the stereotype. Whether are the AA with UMC family or AA from LMC family, the stereotypes you face are the same and the racism can look similar.

This is quite unfortunate and true. Why is it OK to benefit from this if you are say, black but not OK to benefit from this if you are Asian (where a poor-performing Asian Kid is compared to other Asians who are high-performing and held to that same standard)? Not trying to put down AA at all, just trying to understand.

In colleges where Asians are under-represented, Asians do benefit from it.

In what colleges are Asians under-represented?

They are under-represented based on merits.

Exactly.

They are underrepresented everywhere.

Same as Jews were in the 19th and 20th centuries here in the US.

Harvard's prospects (at the Supreme Court) just dimmed significantly

[Anonymous]

If AA goes, so goes legacy. Be careful what you wish for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If AA goes, so goes legacy. Be careful what you wish for?

As it should.

[Anonymous]

John Roberts is harvard’s Only hope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a Democratic Party fundraiser and lawyer but am also Asian. I hate Trump, except on this.

LOL. +1 for completely unapologetic self-interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If AA goes, so goes legacy. Be careful what you wish for?

As it should.

It’s funny how some people think that those who oppose AA must love legacies. Most people hate both and just want things to be fair for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If AA goes, so goes legacy. Be careful what you wish for?

This is a logical inconsistency. Skin pigmentation, by itself, presumably does not directly affect academic performance Legacy, however, directly affects future fundraising, so using it in admissions decisions has business justification.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a Democratic Party fundraiser and lawyer but am also Asian. I hate Trump, except on this.

LOL. +1 for completely unapologetic self-interest.

I am Asian American as well and I am opposed to Trump and his Supreme Court nominations except for the fact that they will overturn the AA policy.

[Anonymous]

Not sure why all the hate on here trying to help those in need. If they don't have the score or stats, just give them a boost, just big enough to overcome the next competitive student.
Who doesn't like a little boost for hundreds and thousands of years of injustice?

[Anonymous]

How many times do you people have to be told:

Race factor in admissions is not designed to make up for any past injustice.

It exists because colleges believe a racial makeup which reflects the population makes them better able to accomplish their goals.

That's IT. Read a book about it. There are many.