Update on Harvard Lawsuit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard counts values of Applicants into mix. How is that AA?

True example my elderly neighbor across street on Tuesday fell and ambulence and police showed up. My wife and kids went over help and my neighbor also. We offered to check mail, get groceries help out while wife in hospital. Husband is an elderly Vet whose kids live out of state.

The two Chinese family with kids radio silence. Violin, Piano, Clubs at school, volunteer activity that will look good on college application interest them. No credit they don't get involved.

So Harvard looks a bit deeper at application to find empathic kind people who are good citizens but those metrics are letting in better people but folks who may have slightly lower GPAs. How is it racist. My Chinese neighbor kids could have helped and put it in college essay.

How did Trump get into Wharton? Was it his neighborly acts? What were they again? It sure wasn't good grades and high test scores.

If only Ivies looked at neighborliness as admissions. Trump and his kids wouldn't have been able to get in to Wharton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard counts values of Applicants into mix. How is that AA?

True example my elderly neighbor across street on Tuesday fell and ambulence and police showed up. My wife and kids went over help and my neighbor also. We offered to check mail, get groceries help out while wife in hospital. Husband is an elderly Vet whose kids live out of state.

The two Chinese family with kids radio silence. Violin, Piano, Clubs at school, volunteer activity that will look good on college application interest them. No credit they don't get involved.

So Harvard looks a bit deeper at application to find empathic kind people who are good citizens but those metrics are letting in better people but folks who may have slightly lower GPAs. How is it racist. My Chinese neighbor kids could have helped and put it in college essay.

This has to be a troll!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They use a disproportionate impact analysis to claim that the facially race-neutral personality scores discriminate against Asian-Americans, even though the Trump DOJ argues that the same analytical technique cannot be used to demonstrate discrimination against African-Americans and Latinos. It just provides more evidence that the Trumpsters are intent on excluding as many African-Americans and Latinos and Native Americans from elite institutions as they can. It pretty much boils down to why the darker races should be able to go to Harvard when they would never accept the Donald or his children and the Kushners had to pay millions to get Jared in.

Ok I could possible buy the anti-black stance, but you really think Trump's administration has it out for Native Americans? It's 0.9% of the population. What fringe group will they target next? Bahai' followers? Maltese?

Seriously? You must not be aware of Trump's ongoing attempts to displace and take over Native American lands for oil pipelines?$$

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great job by DOJ. Hope they get rid of AActions soon.

Just read the DOJ filing, I agree it's very well done. And so clear, I don't see how Harvard can get out the mess it has created.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't care, do u?

Yes, i care about the equitable treatment of all applicants....what sort of mindless imbecile wouldn't?

This isn't about equitable treatment of all applicants, it's about keeping blacks and Hispanics out in favor of races that Trump has deemed preferable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great job by DOJ. Hope they get rid of AActions soon.

Just read the DOJ filing, I agree it's very well done. And so clear, I don't see how Harvard can get out the mess it has created.

Yep, these aren’t liberty university grads writing and filing this at doj.

There are t10 caliber staff that agree with sffa and doj.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Funny - DOJ and DOE haven't chosen to bring a claim under Title VI.

A kavanaugh Scotus however can look at this issue under that framework on their own volition

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard counts values of Applicants into mix. How is that AA?

True example my elderly neighbor across street on Tuesday fell and ambulence and police showed up. My wife and kids went over help and my neighbor also. We offered to check mail, get groceries help out while wife in hospital. Husband is an elderly Vet whose kids live out of state.

The two Chinese family with kids radio silence. Violin, Piano, Clubs at school, volunteer activity that will look good on college application interest them. No credit they don't get involved.

So Harvard looks a bit deeper at application to find empathic kind people who are good citizens but those metrics are letting in better people but folks who may have slightly lower GPAs. How is it racist. My Chinese neighbor kids could have helped and put it in college essay.

You're an imbecile and anecdotes are irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard counts values of Applicants into mix. How is that AA?

True example my elderly neighbor across street on Tuesday fell and ambulence and police showed up. My wife and kids went over help and my neighbor also. We offered to check mail, get groceries help out while wife in hospital. Husband is an elderly Vet whose kids live out of state.

The two Chinese family with kids radio silence. Violin, Piano, Clubs at school, volunteer activity that will look good on college application interest them. No credit they don't get involved.

So Harvard looks a bit deeper at application to find empathic kind people who are good citizens but those metrics are letting in better people but folks who may have slightly lower GPAs. How is it racist. My Chinese neighbor kids could have helped and put it in college essay.

This has to be a troll!

+1 Nobody is that stupid.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great job by DOJ. Hope they get rid of AActions soon.

Don't be too gleeful. That includes white women, rural poor whites who typically would not have an opportunity to attend someplace like Harvard, Penn, Yale, etc. Be careful what you wish for because your voice will be the loudest if, no when, it impacts whites.

Not white women these days. Bit easier to get into a top college for a white male over a white female. If the schools switched strictly to merit based the ratio would become more lopsided in favor of women, including white women.

[Anonymous]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doj-sides-plaintiffs-claiming-harvard-illegally-discriminates-asian/story?id=57497974

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't care, do u?

Yes, i care about the equitable treatment of all applicants....what sort of mindless imbecile wouldn't?

This isn't about equitable treatment of all applicants, it's about keeping blacks and Hispanics out in favor of races that Trump has deemed preferable.

Try to keep up.....blacks and hispanics already get a significant handicap on admissions. The suit is about discrimination against qualified asian-american applicants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard counts values of Applicants into mix. How is that AA?

True example my elderly neighbor across street on Tuesday fell and ambulence and police showed up. My wife and kids went over help and my neighbor also. We offered to check mail, get groceries help out while wife in hospital. Husband is an elderly Vet whose kids live out of state.

The two Chinese family with kids radio silence. Violin, Piano, Clubs at school, volunteer activity that will look good on college application interest them. No credit they don't get involved.

So Harvard looks a bit deeper at application to find empathic kind people who are good citizens but those metrics are letting in better people but folks who may have slightly lower GPAs. How is it racist. My Chinese neighbor kids could have helped and put it in college essay.

As an Asian I totally agree that the Chinese family should have pitched in. Maybe if elite schools did not discriminate against them as much as they do, that family would have.

As a matter of common sense, I don't think Harvard should care about how nice you are or how social you are to admit you to an ACADEMIC program. Look at all the nice, social people that went through Harvard and what they do in real life after college. Most pretend to get in. Most are A-holes a few years after they get out. Harvard pretends it has "holistic" criteria for admission that in reality discriminates against people of a certain ilk. It's time to kill that game or at least not subsidize it with taxpayer money.

If this was the Harvard School of Receptionistology or Housewifery, I can understand..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard counts values of Applicants into mix. How is that AA?

True example my elderly neighbor across street on Tuesday fell and ambulence and police showed up. My wife and kids went over help and my neighbor also. We offered to check mail, get groceries help out while wife in hospital. Husband is an elderly Vet whose kids live out of state.

The two Chinese family with kids radio silence. Violin, Piano, Clubs at school, volunteer activity that will look good on college application interest them. No credit they don't get involved.

So Harvard looks a bit deeper at application to find empathic kind people who are good citizens but those metrics are letting in better people but folks who may have slightly lower GPAs. How is it racist. My Chinese neighbor kids could have helped and put it in college essay.

As an Asian I totally agree that the Chinese family should have pitched in. Maybe if elite schools did not discriminate against them as much as they do, that family would have.

As a matter of common sense, I don't think Harvard should care about how nice you are or how social you are to admit you to an ACADEMIC program. Look at all the nice, social people that went through Harvard and what they do in real life after college. Most pretend to get in. Most are A-holes a few years after they get out. Harvard pretends it has "holistic" criteria for admission that in reality discriminates against people of a certain ilk. It's time to kill that game or at least not subsidize it with taxpayer money.

If this was the Harvard School of Receptionistology or Housewifery, I can understand..

It's nice that you feel that way, but it's irrelevant here because, regardless of what happens with this suit, Harvard is a private institution with a fair amount of latitude to decide which criteria it wants to use in making admissions determinations. Your narrow-minded view of what college can/should be isn't universally held.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don't care, do u?

Yes, i care about the equitable treatment of all applicants....what sort of mindless imbecile wouldn't?

This isn't about equitable treatment of all applicants, it's about keeping blacks and Hispanics out in favor of races that Trump has deemed preferable.

Try to keep up.....blacks and hispanics already get a significant handicap on admissions. The suit is about discrimination against qualified asian-american applicants.

If these plaintiffs prevail, the effect will be to disproportionately push blacks and Hispanics out of these schools. That's why so many Asian people are opposed to this lawsuit, because they don't want their admissions to come at the expense of disadvantaged groups, and even those who don't care about that per se know how bad a look it is for them.