S/O: So what do men find attractive?

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I don't know why people at mad when the responses aren't what they like to hear. Live and let live.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why people at mad when the responses aren't what they like to hear. Live and let live.

People can say the same thing about you being mad when people's responses to your responses aren't what you expect. Live and let live.

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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's caucasian male here, senior executive at a top 20 global brand. With the same woman since college (married), and have undergrad and grad degrees from top 10 schools. Giving that context only because I think different kinds of men like different kinds of women.

I think it is interesting that 95+% of responses have revolved on looks, when the question is "what do men find attractive". For me:

- Global mindset - I would not be attracted to a woman that had no interest in traveling, experiencing other cultures, etc. I lived in NYC and found many women who have no interest in ever leaving, and think the world revolves around that city. If a woman has international experience (living or traveling), I find that attractive.

- Interested in sex - A few have mentioned this, but this is very important for me. I want someone who is going to be active in the bedroom, not a dead fish. Giving is great, but I want a woman who is emotive and communicative, and likes to receive as well. Verbally and non-verbally, it is important to me that you like to be touched, and express it.

- Education and drive - I am attracted to intelligent, driven women. There is a line, certainly, and many women cross it. But I find smart sexy.

- Fitness - I hate to say it, but I know enough people who married women and they just blew up, gaining 50-100 pounds. That would be hard on me. I don't need you to have a perfect body, but I generally like thin women. My wife is a size 0 or 2.

- Hair - I think this get underrepresented. My wife fits almost all of my criteria except hair, and unfortunately, she knows it. I love long, this, beautiful hair. Her hair is brittle, so she has to keep it relatively short. I hate to say it, but only the most beautiful of women can pull off really short cuts, and even they would look better with longer hair. This is the easiest way for a woman to drastically decrease her attractiveness, is to cut all her hair off. I completely get that it is a lot of work, but I think hair is just as important as body, maybe more so.

- Skin - Many women have beautiful skin, including my wife. I love it. I know a few attractive women that have leathery skin from sunbathing. It's a massive turnoff. Wear sunscreen.

- Kindness - If you're bitchy / unfriendly to others, especially service staff, that's a massive turnoff. On the flip side, if you smile / are friendly to everyone, that is a massive turn on.

I'm ultra-picky. A couple examples of women I know that many would consider extremely attractive, but I wouldn't want to be in a LTR with:

- My wife's sister. Beautiful face, hair, and body. Smart, hard working, kind. But not into being touched, physical affection, or sex. I know this because of both my wife and brother in law. I feel sorry for the guy. He has a supermodel who just goes through the motions to keep him happy in the bedroom.

- My wife's best friend. Again, beautiful face, hair, and a good (but not perfect) body. Very smart and driven. The kind of girl that gets hit on constantly at bars, and is a giant flirt. I used to have a bit of a crush on her, but watched her turn into an absolute witch with her ex-husband, who was a good guy. She's the type that everyone thinks is an absolute saint / angel, but has a dark side.

- Another of my wife's close friends. Beautiful face, hair, average body. Great boobs. She was a 9/10 when she was younger, and guys that like curvy girls would think she was an 11. Great personality. Has gained probably 3 pounds per year for the past 15 years straight. Just no interest in working out. Her sister has the same face, hair, and boobs, but is a size 4. Looks like a supermodel.

- Former coworker. Great body (D1 track athlete), pretty face, hyper-intelligent and successful ($500k+ annual income by herself), great personality. Keeps cutting her hair, and it's now probably as short as mine. Never wears makeup, or particularly attractive clothing. If she put in a bit of effort, she'd be a 9/10.

So the last woman fails your "test" because she keeps cutting her hair and never wears make up? Your response pretty much revolves around looks, even though you would like to think otherwise. lol

Yes. The question was “What do men find attractive?” I gave her as an example of someone so focused on her career that it impacted her attractiveness. I know she wanted to meet someone, but wasn’t having any luck. Obviously I was not going to suggest growing her hair back out.

I listed 8 attributes, if you separate intelligence and ambition. 5 relate to personality, 3 to looks. I think it goes without saying that looks play a role in attraction, but I do not believe they are the be-all, end-all.

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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's caucasian male here, senior executive at a top 20 global brand. With the same woman since college (married), and have undergrad and grad degrees from top 10 schools. Giving that context only because I think different kinds of men like different kinds of women.

I think it is interesting that 95+% of responses have revolved on looks, when the question is "what do men find attractive". For me:

- Global mindset - I would not be attracted to a woman that had no interest in traveling, experiencing other cultures, etc. I lived in NYC and found many women who have no interest in ever leaving, and think the world revolves around that city. If a woman has international experience (living or traveling), I find that attractive.

- Interested in sex - A few have mentioned this, but this is very important for me. I want someone who is going to be active in the bedroom, not a dead fish. Giving is great, but I want a woman who is emotive and communicative, and likes to receive as well. Verbally and non-verbally, it is important to me that you like to be touched, and express it.

- Education and drive - I am attracted to intelligent, driven women. There is a line, certainly, and many women cross it. But I find smart sexy.

- Fitness - I hate to say it, but I know enough people who married women and they just blew up, gaining 50-100 pounds. That would be hard on me. I don't need you to have a perfect body, but I generally like thin women. My wife is a size 0 or 2.

- Hair - I think this get underrepresented. My wife fits almost all of my criteria except hair, and unfortunately, she knows it. I love long, this, beautiful hair. Her hair is brittle, so she has to keep it relatively short. I hate to say it, but only the most beautiful of women can pull off really short cuts, and even they would look better with longer hair. This is the easiest way for a woman to drastically decrease her attractiveness, is to cut all her hair off. I completely get that it is a lot of work, but I think hair is just as important as body, maybe more so.

- Skin - Many women have beautiful skin, including my wife. I love it. I know a few attractive women that have leathery skin from sunbathing. It's a massive turnoff. Wear sunscreen.

- Kindness - If you're bitchy / unfriendly to others, especially service staff, that's a massive turnoff. On the flip side, if you smile / are friendly to everyone, that is a massive turn on.

I'm ultra-picky. A couple examples of women I know that many would consider extremely attractive, but I wouldn't want to be in a LTR with:

- My wife's sister. Beautiful face, hair, and body. Smart, hard working, kind. But not into being touched, physical affection, or sex. I know this because of both my wife and brother in law. I feel sorry for the guy. He has a supermodel who just goes through the motions to keep him happy in the bedroom.

- My wife's best friend. Again, beautiful face, hair, and a good (but not perfect) body. Very smart and driven. The kind of girl that gets hit on constantly at bars, and is a giant flirt. I used to have a bit of a crush on her, but watched her turn into an absolute witch with her ex-husband, who was a good guy. She's the type that everyone thinks is an absolute saint / angel, but has a dark side.

- Another of my wife's close friends. Beautiful face, hair, average body. Great boobs. She was a 9/10 when she was younger, and guys that like curvy girls would think she was an 11. Great personality. Has gained probably 3 pounds per year for the past 15 years straight. Just no interest in working out. Her sister has the same face, hair, and boobs, but is a size 4. Looks like a supermodel.

- Former coworker. Great body (D1 track athlete), pretty face, hyper-intelligent and successful ($500k+ annual income by herself), great personality. Keeps cutting her hair, and it's now probably as short as mine. Never wears makeup, or particularly attractive clothing. If she put in a bit of effort, she'd be a 9/10.

So the last woman fails your "test" because she keeps cutting her hair and never wears make up? Your response pretty much revolves around looks, even though you would like to think otherwise. lol

Yes. The question was “What do men find attractive?” I gave her as an example of someone so focused on her career that it impacted her attractiveness. I know she wanted to meet someone, but wasn’t having any luck. Obviously I was not going to suggest growing her hair back out.

I listed 8 attributes, if you separate intelligence and ambition. 5 relate to personality, 3 to looks. I think it goes without saying that looks play a role in attraction, but I do not believe they are the be-all, end-all.

He justs likes hair, thats all.i am AA, so my short hair is more culturally appropriate, if that is a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's caucasian male here, senior executive at a top 20 global brand. With the same woman since college (married), and have undergrad and grad degrees from top 10 schools. Giving that context only because I think different kinds of men like different kinds of women.

I think it is interesting that 95+% of responses have revolved on looks, when the question is "what do men find attractive". For me:

- Global mindset - I would not be attracted to a woman that had no interest in traveling, experiencing other cultures, etc. I lived in NYC and found many women who have no interest in ever leaving, and think the world revolves around that city. If a woman has international experience (living or traveling), I find that attractive.

- Interested in sex - A few have mentioned this, but this is very important for me. I want someone who is going to be active in the bedroom, not a dead fish. Giving is great, but I want a woman who is emotive and communicative, and likes to receive as well. Verbally and non-verbally, it is important to me that you like to be touched, and express it.

- Education and drive - I am attracted to intelligent, driven women. There is a line, certainly, and many women cross it. But I find smart sexy.

- Fitness - I hate to say it, but I know enough people who married women and they just blew up, gaining 50-100 pounds. That would be hard on me. I don't need you to have a perfect body, but I generally like thin women. My wife is a size 0 or 2.

- Hair - I think this get underrepresented. My wife fits almost all of my criteria except hair, and unfortunately, she knows it. I love long, this, beautiful hair. Her hair is brittle, so she has to keep it relatively short. I hate to say it, but only the most beautiful of women can pull off really short cuts, and even they would look better with longer hair. This is the easiest way for a woman to drastically decrease her attractiveness, is to cut all her hair off. I completely get that it is a lot of work, but I think hair is just as important as body, maybe more so.

- Skin - Many women have beautiful skin, including my wife. I love it. I know a few attractive women that have leathery skin from sunbathing. It's a massive turnoff. Wear sunscreen.

- Kindness - If you're bitchy / unfriendly to others, especially service staff, that's a massive turnoff. On the flip side, if you smile / are friendly to everyone, that is a massive turn on.

I'm ultra-picky. A couple examples of women I know that many would consider extremely attractive, but I wouldn't want to be in a LTR with:

- My wife's sister. Beautiful face, hair, and body. Smart, hard working, kind. But not into being touched, physical affection, or sex. I know this because of both my wife and brother in law. I feel sorry for the guy. He has a supermodel who just goes through the motions to keep him happy in the bedroom.

- My wife's best friend. Again, beautiful face, hair, and a good (but not perfect) body. Very smart and driven. The kind of girl that gets hit on constantly at bars, and is a giant flirt. I used to have a bit of a crush on her, but watched her turn into an absolute witch with her ex-husband, who was a good guy. She's the type that everyone thinks is an absolute saint / angel, but has a dark side.

- Another of my wife's close friends. Beautiful face, hair, average body. Great boobs. She was a 9/10 when she was younger, and guys that like curvy girls would think she was an 11. Great personality. Has gained probably 3 pounds per year for the past 15 years straight. Just no interest in working out. Her sister has the same face, hair, and boobs, but is a size 4. Looks like a supermodel.

- Former coworker. Great body (D1 track athlete), pretty face, hyper-intelligent and successful ($500k+ annual income by herself), great personality. Keeps cutting her hair, and it's now probably as short as mine. Never wears makeup, or particularly attractive clothing. If she put in a bit of effort, she'd be a 9/10.

So the last woman fails your "test" because she keeps cutting her hair and never wears make up? Your response pretty much revolves around looks, even though you would like to think otherwise. lol

Yes. The question was “What do men find attractive?” I gave her as an example of someone so focused on her career that it impacted her attractiveness. I know she wanted to meet someone, but wasn’t having any luck. Obviously I was not going to suggest growing her hair back out.

I listed 8 attributes, if you separate intelligence and ambition. 5 relate to personality, 3 to looks. I think it goes without saying that looks play a role in attraction, but I do not believe they are the be-all, end-all.

He justs likes hair, thats all.i am AA, so my short hair is more culturally appropriate, if that is a thing.

Any guy who would not date a woman with short hair but would date the same woman with long hair is not worth her time. Women should stop falling for this "he just likes" story lines.

He is just not that into you if your hair would make such a big difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's caucasian male here, senior executive at a top 20 global brand. With the same woman since college (married), and have undergrad and grad degrees from top 10 schools. Giving that context only because I think different kinds of men like different kinds of women.

I think it is interesting that 95+% of responses have revolved on looks, when the question is "what do men find attractive". For me:

- Global mindset - I would not be attracted to a woman that had no interest in traveling, experiencing other cultures, etc. I lived in NYC and found many women who have no interest in ever leaving, and think the world revolves around that city. If a woman has international experience (living or traveling), I find that attractive.

- Interested in sex - A few have mentioned this, but this is very important for me. I want someone who is going to be active in the bedroom, not a dead fish. Giving is great, but I want a woman who is emotive and communicative, and likes to receive as well. Verbally and non-verbally, it is important to me that you like to be touched, and express it.

- Education and drive - I am attracted to intelligent, driven women. There is a line, certainly, and many women cross it. But I find smart sexy.

- Fitness - I hate to say it, but I know enough people who married women and they just blew up, gaining 50-100 pounds. That would be hard on me. I don't need you to have a perfect body, but I generally like thin women. My wife is a size 0 or 2.

- Hair - I think this get underrepresented. My wife fits almost all of my criteria except hair, and unfortunately, she knows it. I love long, this, beautiful hair. Her hair is brittle, so she has to keep it relatively short. I hate to say it, but only the most beautiful of women can pull off really short cuts, and even they would look better with longer hair. This is the easiest way for a woman to drastically decrease her attractiveness, is to cut all her hair off. I completely get that it is a lot of work, but I think hair is just as important as body, maybe more so.

- Skin - Many women have beautiful skin, including my wife. I love it. I know a few attractive women that have leathery skin from sunbathing. It's a massive turnoff. Wear sunscreen.

- Kindness - If you're bitchy / unfriendly to others, especially service staff, that's a massive turnoff. On the flip side, if you smile / are friendly to everyone, that is a massive turn on.

I'm ultra-picky. A couple examples of women I know that many would consider extremely attractive, but I wouldn't want to be in a LTR with:

- My wife's sister. Beautiful face, hair, and body. Smart, hard working, kind. But not into being touched, physical affection, or sex. I know this because of both my wife and brother in law. I feel sorry for the guy. He has a supermodel who just goes through the motions to keep him happy in the bedroom.

- My wife's best friend. Again, beautiful face, hair, and a good (but not perfect) body. Very smart and driven. The kind of girl that gets hit on constantly at bars, and is a giant flirt. I used to have a bit of a crush on her, but watched her turn into an absolute witch with her ex-husband, who was a good guy. She's the type that everyone thinks is an absolute saint / angel, but has a dark side.

- Another of my wife's close friends. Beautiful face, hair, average body. Great boobs. She was a 9/10 when she was younger, and guys that like curvy girls would think she was an 11. Great personality. Has gained probably 3 pounds per year for the past 15 years straight. Just no interest in working out. Her sister has the same face, hair, and boobs, but is a size 4. Looks like a supermodel.

- Former coworker. Great body (D1 track athlete), pretty face, hyper-intelligent and successful ($500k+ annual income by herself), great personality. Keeps cutting her hair, and it's now probably as short as mine. Never wears makeup, or particularly attractive clothing. If she put in a bit of effort, she'd be a 9/10.

So the last woman fails your "test" because she keeps cutting her hair and never wears make up? Your response pretty much revolves around looks, even though you would like to think otherwise. lol

Yes. The question was “What do men find attractive?” I gave her as an example of someone so focused on her career that it impacted her attractiveness. I know she wanted to meet someone, but wasn’t having any luck. Obviously I was not going to suggest growing her hair back out.

I listed 8 attributes, if you separate intelligence and ambition. 5 relate to personality, 3 to looks. I think it goes without saying that looks play a role in attraction, but I do not believe they are the be-all, end-all.

I can understand you thinking she might need long hair to catch some new eyes. But if you have known this woman for a while and would not want to be in a long term relationship with her because of her hair and make up, she deserves more than you can offer. And you possibly deserve more than she can offer too, who knows...

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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's caucasian male here, senior executive at a top 20 global brand......
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- Former coworker. Great body (D1 track athlete), pretty face, hyper-intelligent and successful ($500k+ annual income by herself), great personality. Keeps cutting her hair, and it's now probably as short as mine. Never wears makeup, or particularly attractive clothing. If she put in a bit of effort, she'd be a 9/10.

Top 20 global brand, top 10 school, top 5 douche.
Get over yourself dude.

PP here. You’re obviously free to think me stating my background is douchey. I think it is relevant.

A majority of answers have either been “I’m attracted to any woman who isn’t fat and will sleep with me. Or “ I want a woman with double Ds”. A lot of guys I went to HS with would give that answer.

But the guys I went to school with and in my professional life are different. Just like George Clooney chose Amal instead of Megan Fox, MDs at Banks and VPs at tech companies want more than just hourglass figures.

I would take a smart, pleasant woman with smallish boobs and a runner’s body that could tell stories about backpacking across Southeast Asia over a cosmetologist that looked like Sofia Vergara any day of the week.

DP. So you say. But your post fits every stereotype of "douche" that one can think of.

How would you rate yourself in the looks department?

Let me know if I can help you off that high horse. We’re in a thread titled “What do men find attractive?” I gave 8 things. Seems more honest than saying “A woman can be 300 lbs with a buzz cut and wearing a stained sweatsuit, but I’ll buy her a drink if she likes baseball and salsa dancing.”

It also seems more helpful than writing “If she has a pulse, more than half of her teeth, and D cups I’ll sleep with her.” There are plenty of men like that, but I’m not one of them. Neither, I believe, are most of the men the single women of DCUM would be interested in.

Personally, I’m tall (over 6 feet), have all my hair, work out (both lift and run) regularly, good posture, keep well groomed, and try to dress well. I’m an extrovert (I’m in BD/partnerships). People have told me I look like Joshua Jackson. Women don’t automatically drop their panties when I walk in a room, but I do get hit on at conferences. I’ve been happily married a long time and do not cheat.

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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's caucasian male here, senior executive at a top 20 global brand......
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- Former coworker. Great body (D1 track athlete), pretty face, hyper-intelligent and successful ($500k+ annual income by herself), great personality. Keeps cutting her hair, and it's now probably as short as mine. Never wears makeup, or particularly attractive clothing. If she put in a bit of effort, she'd be a 9/10.

Top 20 global brand, top 10 school, top 5 douche.
Get over yourself dude.

PP here. You’re obviously free to think me stating my background is douchey. I think it is relevant.

A majority of answers have either been “I’m attracted to any woman who isn’t fat and will sleep with me. Or “ I want a woman with double Ds”. A lot of guys I went to HS with would give that answer.

But the guys I went to school with and in my professional life are different. Just like George Clooney chose Amal instead of Megan Fox, MDs at Banks and VPs at tech companies want more than just hourglass figures.

I would take a smart, pleasant woman with smallish boobs and a runner’s body that could tell stories about backpacking across Southeast Asia over a cosmetologist that looked like Sofia Vergara any day of the week.

DP. So you say. But your post fits every stereotype of "douche" that one can think of.

How would you rate yourself in the looks department?

Let me know if I can help you off that high horse. We’re in a thread titled “What do men find attractive?” I gave 8 things. Seems more honest than saying “A woman can be 300 lbs with a buzz cut and wearing a stained sweatsuit, but I’ll buy her a drink if she likes baseball and salsa dancing.”

It also seems more helpful than writing “If she has a pulse, more than half of her teeth, and D cups I’ll sleep with her.” There are plenty of men like that, but I’m not one of them. Neither, I believe, are most of the men the single women of DCUM would be interested in.

Personally, I’m tall (over 6 feet), have all my hair, work out (both lift and run) regularly, good posture, keep well groomed, and try to dress well. I’m an extrovert (I’m in BD/partnerships). People have told me I look like Joshua Jackson. Women don’t automatically drop their panties when I walk in a room, but I do get hit on at conferences. I’ve been happily married a long time and do not cheat.

There is no high horse. I am a douche myself, but atleast I am aware. Your posts reek of arrogance, ignorance and contradictions.

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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's caucasian male here, senior executive at a top 20 global brand......
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- Former coworker. Great body (D1 track athlete), pretty face, hyper-intelligent and successful ($500k+ annual income by herself), great personality. Keeps cutting her hair, and it's now probably as short as mine. Never wears makeup, or particularly attractive clothing. If she put in a bit of effort, she'd be a 9/10.

Top 20 global brand, top 10 school, top 5 douche.
Get over yourself dude.

PP here. You’re obviously free to think me stating my background is douchey. I think it is relevant.

A majority of answers have either been “I’m attracted to any woman who isn’t fat and will sleep with me. Or “ I want a woman with double Ds”. A lot of guys I went to HS with would give that answer.

But the guys I went to school with and in my professional life are different. Just like George Clooney chose Amal instead of Megan Fox, MDs at Banks and VPs at tech companies want more than just hourglass figures.

I would take a smart, pleasant woman with smallish boobs and a runner’s body that could tell stories about backpacking across Southeast Asia over a cosmetologist that looked like Sofia Vergara any day of the week.

DP. So you say. But your post fits every stereotype of "douche" that one can think of.

How would you rate yourself in the looks department?

Let me know if I can help you off that high horse. We’re in a thread titled “What do men find attractive?” I gave 8 things. Seems more honest than saying “A woman can be 300 lbs with a buzz cut and wearing a stained sweatsuit, but I’ll buy her a drink if she likes baseball and salsa dancing.”

It also seems more helpful than writing “If she has a pulse, more than half of her teeth, and D cups I’ll sleep with her.” There are plenty of men like that, but I’m not one of them. Neither, I believe, are most of the men the single women of DCUM would be interested in.

Personally, I’m tall (over 6 feet), have all my hair, work out (both lift and run) regularly, good posture, keep well groomed, and try to dress well. I’m an extrovert (I’m in BD/partnerships). People have told me I look like Joshua Jackson. Women don’t automatically drop their panties when I walk in a room, but I do get hit on at conferences. I’ve been happily married a long time and do not cheat.

Feel sorry for your wife. She must feel a lot of pressure trying to be your beauty standard. Also if you are happily married you wouldn't be on the relationship discussion forum.

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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's caucasian male here, senior executive at a top 20 global brand......
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- Former coworker. Great body (D1 track athlete), pretty face, hyper-intelligent and successful ($500k+ annual income by herself), great personality. Keeps cutting her hair, and it's now probably as short as mine. Never wears makeup, or particularly attractive clothing. If she put in a bit of effort, she'd be a 9/10.

Top 20 global brand, top 10 school, top 5 douche.
Get over yourself dude.

PP here. You’re obviously free to think me stating my background is douchey. I think it is relevant.

A majority of answers have either been “I’m attracted to any woman who isn’t fat and will sleep with me. Or “ I want a woman with double Ds”. A lot of guys I went to HS with would give that answer.

But the guys I went to school with and in my professional life are different. Just like George Clooney chose Amal instead of Megan Fox, MDs at Banks and VPs at tech companies want more than just hourglass figures.

I would take a smart, pleasant woman with smallish boobs and a runner’s body that could tell stories about backpacking across Southeast Asia over a cosmetologist that looked like Sofia Vergara any day of the week.

DP. So you say. But your post fits every stereotype of "douche" that one can think of.

How would you rate yourself in the looks department?

Let me know if I can help you off that high horse. We’re in a thread titled “What do men find attractive?” I gave 8 things. Seems more honest than saying “A woman can be 300 lbs with a buzz cut and wearing a stained sweatsuit, but I’ll buy her a drink if she likes baseball and salsa dancing.”

It also seems more helpful than writing “If she has a pulse, more than half of her teeth, and D cups I’ll sleep with her.” There are plenty of men like that, but I’m not one of them. Neither, I believe, are most of the men the single women of DCUM would be interested in.

Personally, I’m tall (over 6 feet), have all my hair, work out (both lift and run) regularly, good posture, keep well groomed, and try to dress well. I’m an extrovert (I’m in BD/partnerships). People have told me I look like Joshua Jackson. Women don’t automatically drop their panties when I walk in a room, but I do get hit on at conferences. I’ve been happily married a long time and do not cheat.

Feel sorry for your wife. She must feel a lot of pressure trying to be your beauty standard. Also if you are happily married you wouldn't be on the relationship discussion forum.

I'm a woman following this thread and actually find the PP's insights refreshing. It's better than the other 'boobs and butt' comments. I do agree that if you wont get into an LTR with a nice lady just because she wont wear makeup and grow out her hair is kinda sad.

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Any guy who would not date a woman with short hair but would date the same woman with long hair is not worth her time. Women should stop falling for this "he just likes" story lines.

Very short hair makes you look older and more like your brother. If you’re having trouble getting dates as a result, your decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's caucasian male here, senior executive at a top 20 global brand......
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- Former coworker. Great body (D1 track athlete), pretty face, hyper-intelligent and successful ($500k+ annual income by herself), great personality. Keeps cutting her hair, and it's now probably as short as mine. Never wears makeup, or particularly attractive clothing. If she put in a bit of effort, she'd be a 9/10.

Top 20 global brand, top 10 school, top 5 douche.
Get over yourself dude.

PP here. You’re obviously free to think me stating my background is douchey. I think it is relevant.

A majority of answers have either been “I’m attracted to any woman who isn’t fat and will sleep with me. Or “ I want a woman with double Ds”. A lot of guys I went to HS with would give that answer.

But the guys I went to school with and in my professional life are different. Just like George Clooney chose Amal instead of Megan Fox, MDs at Banks and VPs at tech companies want more than just hourglass figures.

I would take a smart, pleasant woman with smallish boobs and a runner’s body that could tell stories about backpacking across Southeast Asia over a cosmetologist that looked like Sofia Vergara any day of the week.

Clooney is gay and picked Amal to match his political aspirations and because she's loaded. She's also anorexic which is the look 100% of straight guys are not into. I worked in IB and MDs like blonde bimbos as much as every other man. Look at Mnuchin.

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Anonymous wrote:gross. I looked like a 14 yr old baby at 25.

If you were ugly at 25, I hate to think of what you look like now. Sorry, ladies, it's all downhill after your peak at age 22.

Well, hello, assh0le.

I am 45 and I feel like I am peaking at this stage of my life.

So post photos of yourself at 22 and 45 and let the audience judge.

Sorry, but your attractiveness to men is not based on what you "feel like". It is based on how men perceive you.

Humans peak physically at around 30. Confidence is attractive as part of the total package.
https://www.glamour.com/story/is-there-a-peak-beauty-age-one

LOL at a women's magazine saying women peak at 30.

Nope. Women peak at 20-22. Deal with it.



PS men do not give a damn about "confidence" no matter how much Glamour magazine wants it to be true.

This is the dumbest thread ever, thanks to the basement dwelling ‘never had a date in his life’ dork dude.

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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's caucasian male here, senior executive at a top 20 global brand. With the same woman since college (married), and have undergrad and grad degrees from top 10 schools. Giving that context only because I think different kinds of men like different kinds of women.

I think it is interesting that 95+% of responses have revolved on looks, when the question is "what do men find attractive". For me:

- Global mindset - I would not be attracted to a woman that had no interest in traveling, experiencing other cultures, etc. I lived in NYC and found many women who have no interest in ever leaving, and think the world revolves around that city. If a woman has international experience (living or traveling), I find that attractive.

- Interested in sex - A few have mentioned this, but this is very important for me. I want someone who is going to be active in the bedroom, not a dead fish. Giving is great, but I want a woman who is emotive and communicative, and likes to receive as well. Verbally and non-verbally, it is important to me that you like to be touched, and express it.

- Education and drive - I am attracted to intelligent, driven women. There is a line, certainly, and many women cross it. But I find smart sexy.

- Fitness - I hate to say it, but I know enough people who married women and they just blew up, gaining 50-100 pounds. That would be hard on me. I don't need you to have a perfect body, but I generally like thin women. My wife is a size 0 or 2.

- Hair - I think this get underrepresented. My wife fits almost all of my criteria except hair, and unfortunately, she knows it. I love long, this, beautiful hair. Her hair is brittle, so she has to keep it relatively short. I hate to say it, but only the most beautiful of women can pull off really short cuts, and even they would look better with longer hair. This is the easiest way for a woman to drastically decrease her attractiveness, is to cut all her hair off. I completely get that it is a lot of work, but I think hair is just as important as body, maybe more so.

- Skin - Many women have beautiful skin, including my wife. I love it. I know a few attractive women that have leathery skin from sunbathing. It's a massive turnoff. Wear sunscreen.

- Kindness - If you're bitchy / unfriendly to others, especially service staff, that's a massive turnoff. On the flip side, if you smile / are friendly to everyone, that is a massive turn on.

I'm ultra-picky. A couple examples of women I know that many would consider extremely attractive, but I wouldn't want to be in a LTR with:

- My wife's sister. Beautiful face, hair, and body. Smart, hard working, kind. But not into being touched, physical affection, or sex. I know this because of both my wife and brother in law. I feel sorry for the guy. He has a supermodel who just goes through the motions to keep him happy in the bedroom.

- My wife's best friend. Again, beautiful face, hair, and a good (but not perfect) body. Very smart and driven. The kind of girl that gets hit on constantly at bars, and is a giant flirt. I used to have a bit of a crush on her, but watched her turn into an absolute witch with her ex-husband, who was a good guy. She's the type that everyone thinks is an absolute saint / angel, but has a dark side.

- Another of my wife's close friends. Beautiful face, hair, average body. Great boobs. She was a 9/10 when she was younger, and guys that like curvy girls would think she was an 11. Great personality. Has gained probably 3 pounds per year for the past 15 years straight. Just no interest in working out. Her sister has the same face, hair, and boobs, but is a size 4. Looks like a supermodel.

- Former coworker. Great body (D1 track athlete), pretty face, hyper-intelligent and successful ($500k+ annual income by herself), great personality. Keeps cutting her hair, and it's now probably as short as mine. Never wears makeup, or particularly attractive clothing. If she put in a bit of effort, she'd be a 9/10.

So the last woman fails your "test" because she keeps cutting her hair and never wears make up? Your response pretty much revolves around looks, even though you would like to think otherwise. lol

Yes. The question was “What do men find attractive?” I gave her as an example of someone so focused on her career that it impacted her attractiveness. I know she wanted to meet someone, but wasn’t having any luck. Obviously I was not going to suggest growing her hair back out.

I listed 8 attributes, if you separate intelligence and ambition. 5 relate to personality, 3 to looks. I think it goes without saying that looks play a role in attraction, but I do not believe they are the be-all, end-all.

He justs likes hair, thats all.i am AA, so my short hair is more culturally appropriate, if that is a thing.

Any guy who would not date a woman with short hair but would date the same woman with long hair is not worth her time. Women should stop falling for this "he just likes" story lines.

He is just not that into you if your hair would make such a big difference.

Get off your high horse. I know women who will not date men because of the shoes they wear. The bigger question is what is your problem? Does every men have to find you attractive? Men get rejected all the time by women. You have a problem with a guy saying he likes this and this in a women. Put your female privilege on a shelf for one second. Yes some men will not find you attractive.

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Anonymous wrote:Late 30's caucasian male here, senior executive at a top 20 global brand. With the same woman since college (married), and have undergrad and grad degrees from top 10 schools. Giving that context only because I think different kinds of men like different kinds of women.

I think it is interesting that 95+% of responses have revolved on looks, when the question is "what do men find attractive". For me:

- Global mindset - I would not be attracted to a woman that had no interest in traveling, experiencing other cultures, etc. I lived in NYC and found many women who have no interest in ever leaving, and think the world revolves around that city. If a woman has international experience (living or traveling), I find that attractive.

- Interested in sex - A few have mentioned this, but this is very important for me. I want someone who is going to be active in the bedroom, not a dead fish. Giving is great, but I want a woman who is emotive and communicative, and likes to receive as well. Verbally and non-verbally, it is important to me that you like to be touched, and express it.

- Education and drive - I am attracted to intelligent, driven women. There is a line, certainly, and many women cross it. But I find smart sexy.

- Fitness - I hate to say it, but I know enough people who married women and they just blew up, gaining 50-100 pounds. That would be hard on me. I don't need you to have a perfect body, but I generally like thin women. My wife is a size 0 or 2.

- Hair - I think this get underrepresented. My wife fits almost all of my criteria except hair, and unfortunately, she knows it. I love long, this, beautiful hair. Her hair is brittle, so she has to keep it relatively short. I hate to say it, but only the most beautiful of women can pull off really short cuts, and even they would look better with longer hair. This is the easiest way for a woman to drastically decrease her attractiveness, is to cut all her hair off. I completely get that it is a lot of work, but I think hair is just as important as body, maybe more so.

- Skin - Many women have beautiful skin, including my wife. I love it. I know a few attractive women that have leathery skin from sunbathing. It's a massive turnoff. Wear sunscreen.

- Kindness - If you're bitchy / unfriendly to others, especially service staff, that's a massive turnoff. On the flip side, if you smile / are friendly to everyone, that is a massive turn on.

I'm ultra-picky. A couple examples of women I know that many would consider extremely attractive, but I wouldn't want to be in a LTR with:

- My wife's sister. Beautiful face, hair, and body. Smart, hard working, kind. But not into being touched, physical affection, or sex. I know this because of both my wife and brother in law. I feel sorry for the guy. He has a supermodel who just goes through the motions to keep him happy in the bedroom.

- My wife's best friend. Again, beautiful face, hair, and a good (but not perfect) body. Very smart and driven. The kind of girl that gets hit on constantly at bars, and is a giant flirt. I used to have a bit of a crush on her, but watched her turn into an absolute witch with her ex-husband, who was a good guy. She's the type that everyone thinks is an absolute saint / angel, but has a dark side.

- Another of my wife's close friends. Beautiful face, hair, average body. Great boobs. She was a 9/10 when she was younger, and guys that like curvy girls would think she was an 11. Great personality. Has gained probably 3 pounds per year for the past 15 years straight. Just no interest in working out. Her sister has the same face, hair, and boobs, but is a size 4. Looks like a supermodel.

- Former coworker. Great body (D1 track athlete), pretty face, hyper-intelligent and successful ($500k+ annual income by herself), great personality. Keeps cutting her hair, and it's now probably as short as mine. Never wears makeup, or particularly attractive clothing. If she put in a bit of effort, she'd be a 9/10.

Put your picture up so we can rate you.

Yes, please post your picture! I think the women in this post would like to see what the perfect male looks like, because you seem to think you are.