Huge changes to TJ admissions test beginning next year

[Anonymous]

Get real. Cheating in some form or other is part of human nature since the stone ages. Getting unfair advantage is part of American culture, it is deep ingrained in it, Asians learned it from here. Anyone who is hugely successful in America had some sort of advantage they found, it is a form of cheating. Those in glass houses should not....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Grapes sourr! I know a chinese kid who was in TJ AND got VA champion in a sport, went to Yale two years ago. The kid practiced almost daily and played tournaments (tournament takes 3-4 hours )two or three times a month, apparently no time to take the after-class or weekend tutoring.

And I know a white kid at TJ who didn't prep. I know because I'm parenting him. And because I am a parent in this environment, I will say that many, if not most kids who get in have prepped extensively. There are definately exceptions though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get real. Cheating in some form or other is part of human nature since the stone ages. Getting unfair advantage is part of American culture, it is deep ingrained in it, Asians learned it from here. Anyone who is hugely successful in America had some sort of advantage they found, it is a form of cheating. Those in glass houses should not....

And yet Asians in Asian are managing to find a way to cheat too:

https://blogs.voanews.com/student-union/2017/02/27/sat-scores-of-asian-students-cancelled-over-cheating/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get real. Cheating in some form or other is part of human nature since the stone ages. Getting unfair advantage is part of American culture, it is deep ingrained in it, Asians learned it from here. Anyone who is hugely successful in America had some sort of advantage they found, it is a form of cheating. Those in glass houses should not....

Huh. I don't think cheating is part of human nature, and I don't think most people cheat. This sounds like the rationalization of someone who'd like to think it's okay to cheat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Grapes sourr! I know a chinese kid who was in TJ AND got VA champion in a sport, went to Yale two years ago. The kid practiced almost daily and played tournaments (tournament takes 3-4 hours )two or three times a month, apparently no time to take the after-class or weekend tutoring.

And I know a white kid at TJ who didn't prep. I know because I'm parenting him. And because I am a parent in this environment, I will say that many, if not most kids who get in have prepped extensively. There are definately exceptions though.

Another white family with kid at TJ who most definitely did not prep, most of his friends didn't either. Not sure who your "many" are but they sure aren't the "many" I come in contact with.

[Anonymous]

White kids at TJ have to cheat to keep up with the Asian kids. Most of the top TJ kids tend to be Asians. Look how whites game the AAP admission with the subjective portion and if that fails find the "right" psychologist to get their kids in with "appeal". Whites have mastered cheating and gaming.

And then argue "don't attend rigorous high school" attend easier high school to get into UVA, TJ hurts your college chances (never mind the quality of education) and then turn around and blather about how important the quality of education blah blah blah.

Bunch of hypocrites and cheaters. If you want to argue, the TJ admission test is different and should not be prepped, stop gaming the AAP admission and bribing your or your kids way into AAP on appeals. Asians already surpassed whites in education even with the legalized discrimination in college admissions.

[Anonymous]

Cheating or not. It is parent's responsibility to teach good ethics and morals if their child is going in wrong path. Today the child may excel because of spoon feeding, tutoring,etc. But, those who have natural talent and interests in the subject they like will excel in the long run.

Cheating can only take upto certain extent, one day he or she will get caught. Or the child may feel burnt out and looses interest . I saw seen numerous cases .


Those who justify it by saying whites do it, or asians do it, have probably not seen the impact of getting caught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cheating or not. It is parent's responsibility to teach good ethics and morals if their child is going in wrong path. Today the child may excel because of spoon feeding, tutoring,etc. But, those who have natural talent and interests in the subject they like will excel in the long run.

Cheating can only take upto certain extent, one day he or she will get caught. Or the child may feel burnt out and looses interest . I saw seen numerous cases .


Those who justify it by saying whites do it, or asians do it, have probably not seen the impact of getting caught.

Ha ha.. by the way parents are justifying on this thread, it looks you are the only ethical and moral being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White kids at TJ have to cheat to keep up with the Asian kids. Most of the top TJ kids tend to be Asians. Look how whites game the AAP admission with the subjective portion and if that fails find the "right" psychologist to get their kids in with "appeal". Whites have mastered cheating and gaming.

And then argue "don't attend rigorous high school" attend easier high school to get into UVA, TJ hurts your college chances (never mind the quality of education) and then turn around and blather about how important the quality of education blah blah blah.

Bunch of hypocrites and cheaters. If you want to argue, the TJ admission test is different and should not be prepped, stop gaming the AAP admission and bribing your or your kids way into AAP on appeals. Asians already surpassed whites in education even with the legalized discrimination in college admissions.

Interesting, why are kids getting caught cheating at TJ (sophomore cheating ring, neuro cheating ring) Asian? Are you saying that whites are *better* cheaters?

Also, where do you live that Asians don't appeal and WISC for AAP? I works with a therapist who shares an office space with with an educational psychologist well known for AAP appeals. Come AAP appeals season last year, were plenty of Asians parents there too. I also personally know Asian and white parents who went through AAP appeals. And, of course, the current 8th grade class is so large because an Asian prep school actually manage to get hold of the CogAT form being used and taught kids the answers.

[Anonymous]

It's human nature that when we learn something, we make use of the learning to prepare for our benefit. And this is not a white or asian thing. I still don't understand what's the fuss over prepping? If you do not prepare and put yourself in the best position to use the opportunities, you going to fall behind whether you are a kid or adult attending tests interviws etc unless of course you are of the few privileged ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:White kids at TJ have to cheat to keep up with the Asian kids. Most of the top TJ kids tend to be Asians. Look how whites game the AAP admission with the subjective portion and if that fails find the "right" psychologist to get their kids in with "appeal". Whites have mastered cheating and gaming.

And then argue "don't attend rigorous high school" attend easier high school to get into UVA, TJ hurts your college chances (never mind the quality of education) and then turn around and blather about how important the quality of education blah blah blah.

Bunch of hypocrites and cheaters. If you want to argue, the TJ admission test is different and should not be prepped, stop gaming the AAP admission and bribing your or your kids way into AAP on appeals. Asians already surpassed whites in education even with the legalized discrimination in college admissions.

+100

[Anonymous]

TJ provides elite private school education at public school cost. It's a great deal for students able to gain admission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ provides elite private school education at public school cost. It's a great deal for students able to gain admission.

Yep. Save that money for college.

[Anonymous]

No public school should exist that is serving one demographic only. Shameful and should be illegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ provides elite private school education at public school cost. It's a great deal for students able to gain admission.

TJ's education quality isn't that great. It's the student quality that makes it stand out.