Huge changes to TJ admissions test beginning next year

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ provides elite private school education at public school cost. It's a great deal for students able to gain admission.

TJ's education quality isn't that great. It's the student quality that makes it stand out.

It's an amazing education. Full stop. Although student quality I high, there are other things at play:

Integrated classes (IBET, CHUM, then integrated humanities).

Lots of post-AP. Especially in CS

Year long IBET group research project as a freshman, presented at a symsiumm. Ditto senior year projects.

8th period clubs and activities

Outside, summer and school year interns and meentorshipps

It has a handfuls weak reachers, like all schools. Most teachers are stong. May are tough graders.

Plus, the fun stuff:

Asking weeks
Homecoming
No bells between classes
Can eat lunch anywhere in the school or outside
CubeSat
INIte
HackTJ
TjStar
Freshman Lock-in
Junior Kings Dominion
Sadies
J Day
The f*cking robot/ robot competition + the 6th act to R + J. (Same time)
Prom after class is out for the year
ANGP
#ThereForTheSports


Basically, it's an overall amazing learning environment.

If you are not impressed by he academics or teachers, or the environment or the college list, don't send your kids. Easy. Done. Why are you here trying to comvinue parents it's a terrible school? It's not for my kid.

They are envious that their kids cannot attend the number 1 ranked best high school in the country with the highest SAT and the most number of NMSF and the best college placement public school that offers private school education from former professors, PhDs and JDs .

And the most cheaters

Don't be annoyed that TJ kids receive one of the best high school education in the country for free while your kids do not. Those TJ kids will go on to create lot of jobs in the tech industry and your kids will have jobs at least working for them someday.

I am not annoyed because my kid had a better education than TJ and for free. TJ graduates don't create jobs unless it involves cheating.
TJ, overrated and underperformed.

Based on your post, your kid did receive a free education from you about being a bigot.

We can see you don't know what the word 'bigot' means.

[Anonymous]

"Huge chances". As someone who just took the test, I break down in tears every day because of that math section. So many of my friends have had mental breakdowns in class because of that test. If this is the math we're going to be doing in TJ, I feel I'll hate my 4 years there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ provides elite private school education at public school cost. It's a great deal for students able to gain admission.

TJ's education quality isn't that great. It's the student quality that makes it stand out.

It's an amazing education. Full stop. Although student quality I high, there are other things at play:

Integrated classes (IBET, CHUM, then integrated humanities).

Lots of post-AP. Especially in CS

Year long IBET group research project as a freshman, presented at a symsiumm. Ditto senior year projects.

8th period clubs and activities

Outside, summer and school year interns and meentorshipps

It has a handfuls weak reachers, like all schools. Most teachers are stong. May are tough graders.

Plus, the fun stuff:

Asking weeks
Homecoming
No bells between classes
Can eat lunch anywhere in the school or outside
CubeSat
INIte
HackTJ
TjStar
Freshman Lock-in
Junior Kings Dominion
Sadies
J Day
The f*cking robot/ robot competition + the 6th act to R + J. (Same time)
Prom after class is out for the year
ANGP
#ThereForTheSports


Basically, it's an overall amazing learning environment.

If you are not impressed by he academics or teachers, or the environment or the college list, don't send your kids. Easy. Done. Why are you here trying to comvinue parents it's a terrible school? It's not for my kid.

They are envious that their kids cannot attend the number 1 ranked best high school in the country with the highest SAT and the most number of NMSF and the best college placement public school that offers private school education from former professors, PhDs and JDs .

And the most cheaters

Don't be annoyed that TJ kids receive one of the best high school education in the country for free while your kids do not. Those TJ kids will go on to create lot of jobs in the tech industry and your kids will have jobs at least working for them someday.

I am not annoyed because my kid had a better education than TJ and for free. TJ graduates don't create jobs unless it involves cheating.
TJ, overrated and underperformed.

I am not a TJ Parent. You need real help! You just labelled 100's of smart, intelligent students as cheaters! How sick is that!! Your child did not make it to the school but that does not make school bad. Granted there are issues here and there. No school is perfect. But to simply look down on such a great school simply reflects how bitter you are from inside!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Huge chances". As someone who just took the test, I break down in tears every day because of that math section. So many of my friends have had mental breakdowns in class because of that test. If this is the math we're going to be doing in TJ, I feel I'll hate my 4 years there.

I have a kid at TJ and my other kid is applying this year. And I am not trying to be snarky. But the test portion of TJ entrance is a low bar. It is meant to screen out kids who cannot handle the academics at TJ. If you can’t make it through the test— without prepping— than you would have a miserable TJ experience. And if you are having a mental breakdown over the test, you should withdraw your application. TJ Math is one over your head test at another. The average grade on the first Math 4 Test this year? 61. No curve. If you can’t handle classes that work like this without a breakdown, you will probably do better at your base school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Huge chances". As someone who just took the test, I break down in tears every day because of that math section. So many of my friends have had mental breakdowns in class because of that test. If this is the math we're going to be doing in TJ, I feel I'll hate my 4 years there.

I have a kid at TJ and my other kid is applying this year. And I am not trying to be snarky. But the test portion of TJ entrance is a low bar. It is meant to screen out kids who cannot handle the academics at TJ. If you can’t make it through the test— without prepping— than you would have a miserable TJ experience. And if you are having a mental breakdown over the test, you should withdraw your application. TJ Math is one over your head test at another. The average grade on the first Math 4 Test this year? 61. No curve. If you can’t handle classes that work like this without a breakdown, you will probably do better at your base school.

You are responding to an obvious troll...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Huge chances". As someone who just took the test, I break down in tears every day because of that math section. So many of my friends have had mental breakdowns in class because of that test. If this is the math we're going to be doing in TJ, I feel I'll hate my 4 years there.

I have a kid at TJ and my other kid is applying this year. And I am not trying to be snarky. But the test portion of TJ entrance is a low bar. It is meant to screen out kids who cannot handle the academics at TJ. If you can’t make it through the test— without prepping— than you would have a miserable TJ experience. And if you are having a mental breakdown over the test, you should withdraw your application. TJ Math is one over your head test at another. The average grade on the first Math 4 Test this year? 61. No curve. If you can’t handle classes that work like this without a breakdown, you will probably do better at your base school.

You are responding to an obvious troll...

I have a kid at Carson, and not necessarily. The test this year really threw some kids. And I don’t discount the pressure some parents put on their kids to get in.

[Anonymous]

I am an Asian and my kids are still young. But I really don't like the 'prep' culture. I don't mind kids to learn advanced subjects if they show interest, just like any other extracurricular activities. But when parents put huge pressure on kids to study/prep just for the sake of getting TJ, I think that does create an unfair field, especially those prep schools only provide the drilling exercise, it is kind of cheating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ provides elite private school education at public school cost. It's a great deal for students able to gain admission.

TJ's education quality isn't that great. It's the student quality that makes it stand out.

It's an amazing education. Full stop. Although student quality I high, there are other things at play:

Integrated classes (IBET, CHUM, then integrated humanities).

Lots of post-AP. Especially in CS

Year long IBET group research project as a freshman, presented at a symsiumm. Ditto senior year projects.

8th period clubs and activities

Outside, summer and school year interns and meentorshipps

It has a handfuls weak reachers, like all schools. Most teachers are stong. May are tough graders.

Plus, the fun stuff:

Asking weeks
Homecoming
No bells between classes
Can eat lunch anywhere in the school or outside
CubeSat
INIte
HackTJ
TjStar
Freshman Lock-in
Junior Kings Dominion
Sadies
J Day
The f*cking robot/ robot competition + the 6th act to R + J. (Same time)
Prom after class is out for the year
ANGP
#ThereForTheSports


Basically, it's an overall amazing learning environment.

If you are not impressed by he academics or teachers, or the environment or the college list, don't send your kids. Easy. Done. Why are you here trying to comvinue parents it's a terrible school? It's not for my kid.

They are envious that their kids cannot attend the number 1 ranked best high school in the country with the highest SAT and the most number of NMSF and the best college placement public school that offers private school education from former professors, PhDs and JDs .

And the most cheaters

Don't be annoyed that TJ kids receive one of the best high school education in the country for free while your kids do not. Those TJ kids will go on to create lot of jobs in the tech industry and your kids will have jobs at least working for them someday.

I am not annoyed because my kid had a better education than TJ and for free. TJ graduates don't create jobs unless it involves cheating.
TJ, overrated and underperformed.

I am not a TJ Parent. You need real help! You just labelled 100's of smart, intelligent students as cheaters! How sick is that!! Your child did not make it to the school but that does not make school bad. Granted there are issues here and there. No school is perfect. But to simply look down on such a great school simply reflects how bitter you are from inside!!

It's a well known fact that there is a culture of cheating at TJ. Not some "issues here and there".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ provides elite private school education at public school cost. It's a great deal for students able to gain admission.

TJ's education quality isn't that great. It's the student quality that makes it stand out.

It's an amazing education. Full stop. Although student quality I high, there are other things at play:

Integrated classes (IBET, CHUM, then integrated humanities).

Lots of post-AP. Especially in CS

Year long IBET group research project as a freshman, presented at a symsiumm. Ditto senior year projects.

8th period clubs and activities

Outside, summer and school year interns and meentorshipps

It has a handfuls weak reachers, like all schools. Most teachers are stong. May are tough graders.

Plus, the fun stuff:

Asking weeks
Homecoming
No bells between classes
Can eat lunch anywhere in the school or outside
CubeSat
INIte
HackTJ
TjStar
Freshman Lock-in
Junior Kings Dominion
Sadies
J Day
The f*cking robot/ robot competition + the 6th act to R + J. (Same time)
Prom after class is out for the year
ANGP
#ThereForTheSports


Basically, it's an overall amazing learning environment.

If you are not impressed by he academics or teachers, or the environment or the college list, don't send your kids. Easy. Done. Why are you here trying to comvinue parents it's a terrible school? It's not for my kid.

They are envious that their kids cannot attend the number 1 ranked best high school in the country with the highest SAT and the most number of NMSF and the best college placement public school that offers private school education from former professors, PhDs and JDs .

And the most cheaters

Don't be annoyed that TJ kids receive one of the best high school education in the country for free while your kids do not. Those TJ kids will go on to create lot of jobs in the tech industry and your kids will have jobs at least working for them someday.

I am not annoyed because my kid had a better education than TJ and for free. TJ graduates don't create jobs unless it involves cheating.
TJ, overrated and underperformed.

I am not a TJ Parent. You need real help! You just labelled 100's of smart, intelligent students as cheaters! How sick is that!! Your child did not make it to the school but that does not make school bad. Granted there are issues here and there. No school is perfect. But to simply look down on such a great school simply reflects how bitter you are from inside!!

It's a well known fact that there is a culture of cheating at TJ. Not some "issues here and there".

So that makes every child in that school cheater? Same can be said for other schools!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an Asian and my kids are still young. But I really don't like the 'prep' culture. I don't mind kids to learn advanced subjects if they show interest, just like any other extracurricular activities. But when parents put huge pressure on kids to study/prep just for the sake of getting TJ, I think that does create an unfair field, especially those prep schools only provide the drilling exercise, it is kind of cheating.

Who cares that you are Asian... it doesn't give you any more credibility or strengthen your argument.
As a previous poster mentioned, the test is the "low bar" to weed out applicants, so that the admissions staff doesn't have to weed through all 3000 applications.

Most of the kids who take prep, would do well enough on the test anyway. They and their parents are just the type to make sure they don't leave any stone unturned. And this year especially, they are prepping for an unknown test... so I don't know where you assume they drilling exercises that constitutes a form of cheating. This is also, not an aptitude or intelligence test. Its to make sure that you understand basic Algebra, can interpret basic scientific charts/graphs, and have basic reading comprehension.

Once past that 1st cut, everyone's application will get looked at.
Their middle school grades will be evaluated (especially math and science classes), and teacher recommendations will be reviewed. Those kids also prepped for this... its called "doing well in school". Duh.
Also, the essay will be taken. Yes, you can prep essay writing... but that is more a life-skill anyway. It would be good to prep this even if not taking a TJ test.

Its an open and transparent process, that is well-detailed on the application website. Any interested applicant should know what is involved from the beginning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ provides elite private school education at public school cost. It's a great deal for students able to gain admission.

TJ's education quality isn't that great. It's the student quality that makes it stand out.

It's an amazing education. Full stop. Although student quality I high, there are other things at play:

Integrated classes (IBET, CHUM, then integrated humanities).

Lots of post-AP. Especially in CS

Year long IBET group research project as a freshman, presented at a symsiumm. Ditto senior year projects.

8th period clubs and activities

Outside, summer and school year interns and meentorshipps

It has a handfuls weak reachers, like all schools. Most teachers are stong. May are tough graders.

Plus, the fun stuff:

Asking weeks
Homecoming
No bells between classes
Can eat lunch anywhere in the school or outside
CubeSat
INIte
HackTJ
TjStar
Freshman Lock-in
Junior Kings Dominion
Sadies
J Day
The f*cking robot/ robot competition + the 6th act to R + J. (Same time)
Prom after class is out for the year
ANGP
#ThereForTheSports


Basically, it's an overall amazing learning environment.

If you are not impressed by he academics or teachers, or the environment or the college list, don't send your kids. Easy. Done. Why are you here trying to comvinue parents it's a terrible school? It's not for my kid.

They are envious that their kids cannot attend the number 1 ranked best high school in the country with the highest SAT and the most number of NMSF and the best college placement public school that offers private school education from former professors, PhDs and JDs .

And the most cheaters

Don't be annoyed that TJ kids receive one of the best high school education in the country for free while your kids do not. Those TJ kids will go on to create lot of jobs in the tech industry and your kids will have jobs at least working for them someday.

I am not annoyed because my kid had a better education than TJ and for free. TJ graduates don't create jobs unless it involves cheating.
TJ, overrated and underperformed.

I am not a TJ Parent. You need real help! You just labelled 100's of smart, intelligent students as cheaters! How sick is that!! Your child did not make it to the school but that does not make school bad. Granted there are issues here and there. No school is perfect. But to simply look down on such a great school simply reflects how bitter you are from inside!!

It's a well known fact that there is a culture of cheating at TJ. Not some "issues here and there".

So that makes every child in that school cheater? Same can be said for other schools!!

Nope. Other schools have "here and there issues " but TJ has a culture of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ provides elite private school education at public school cost. It's a great deal for students able to gain admission.

TJ's education quality isn't that great. It's the student quality that makes it stand out.

It's an amazing education. Full stop. Although student quality I high, there are other things at play:

Integrated classes (IBET, CHUM, then integrated humanities).

Lots of post-AP. Especially in CS

Year long IBET group research project as a freshman, presented at a symsiumm. Ditto senior year projects.

8th period clubs and activities

Outside, summer and school year interns and meentorshipps

It has a handfuls weak reachers, like all schools. Most teachers are stong. May are tough graders.

Plus, the fun stuff:

Asking weeks
Homecoming
No bells between classes
Can eat lunch anywhere in the school or outside
CubeSat
INIte
HackTJ
TjStar
Freshman Lock-in
Junior Kings Dominion
Sadies
J Day
The f*cking robot/ robot competition + the 6th act to R + J. (Same time)
Prom after class is out for the year
ANGP
#ThereForTheSports


Basically, it's an overall amazing learning environment.

If you are not impressed by he academics or teachers, or the environment or the college list, don't send your kids. Easy. Done. Why are you here trying to comvinue parents it's a terrible school? It's not for my kid.

They are envious that their kids cannot attend the number 1 ranked best high school in the country with the highest SAT and the most number of NMSF and the best college placement public school that offers private school education from former professors, PhDs and JDs .

And the most cheaters

Don't be annoyed that TJ kids receive one of the best high school education in the country for free while your kids do not. Those TJ kids will go on to create lot of jobs in the tech industry and your kids will have jobs at least working for them someday.

I am not annoyed because my kid had a better education than TJ and for free. TJ graduates don't create jobs unless it involves cheating.
TJ, overrated and underperformed.

I am not a TJ Parent. You need real help! You just labelled 100's of smart, intelligent students as cheaters! How sick is that!! Your child did not make it to the school but that does not make school bad. Granted there are issues here and there. No school is perfect. But to simply look down on such a great school simply reflects how bitter you are from inside!!

It's a well known fact that there is a culture of cheating at TJ. Not some "issues here and there".

So that makes every child in that school cheater? Same can be said for other schools!!

Nope. Other schools have "here and there issues " but TJ has a culture of it.

Duh! So don't send your kid there.. and don't waste our time commenting here! Or is this a case of sour grapes??

[Anonymous]

How are non-TJ parents so definitively claiming there is a culture of cheating at TJ unlike any other high school.

Do you not know that you don't sound credible but sound like you simply have a chip on your shoulder?

[Anonymous]

There is a culture of idiocy on DCUM. Just say no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are non-TJ parents so definitively claiming there is a culture of cheating at TJ unlike any other high school.

Do you not know that you don't sound credible but sound like you simply have a chip on your shoulder?

DP here. TJ is a public school in a county with over a million people, not a fiefdom run for the exclusive benefit of TJ families. TJ's future will be decided by the representatives of all those residents.