You are right that the problem is the mismatch. I think, though, the most posters who are in sexually unfulfilling relationships feel like their partners are not willing or able to find solutions or compromises, or really even acknowledge the issue. (The latter is by far the most destructive, in my opinion.) My sense is that the contempt of the posters stems more from their frustration than from actual contempt. My *guess* is that many of them have tried, in their own ways, to address this mismatch. Each situation is unique, but there seems to be some commonality in outcome. |
| I think the PP is a fine example of someone who just cannot accept that it's a serious problem or is hurtful to the rejected partner. Instead, she seems to think feeling that way is a mental health issue. |
Oh I agree. H thinks three or four times a month is sufficient to satisfy his marital obligations. With no touching, sexual or otherwise, the rest of the month. No romance, no gifts, no dates, no flowers. That doesn't satisfy me, so I got out there and found someone who will fill in the gaps. |
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You've got to look at sex as a basic appetite.
Marriage is like a long road trip. If one partner says, "Honey I'm starving!" and the other partner isn't hungry, because maybe they're a light eater or carsick, that doesn't mean the hungry one should starve. They either stop and go have a meal together, even if the not-hungry partner just sits and keeps the other company, or the hungry one has a sandwich as they drive, but at no point is it okay for one to tell the other, "Sorry, you can't eat because I am not hungry." My partner and I try to accommodate each other. We're well matched, but if one totally isn't in the mood to have anything to do with the other and one is too horny to wait, we're comfortable masturbating in front of each other. During the little-kid years, this happened more than we liked, but we got through it and now have more energy. And somehow, seeing your partner enjoying pleasure without any pressure on you, but with you welcome to join in, is freeing, and often leads to mutual fun. |
The thing that low drive spouses don't seem to fully grasp is that it's not just about quantity, it's about quality. My H can perform physically, but I can tell he's not into it. I can give myself physical pleasure (in less time, to boot!). I want a partner who desires me and not just the sex. Tries new things. Enjoys the whole experience. That qualitative difference is hard to compromise on when one person just wants it to be over so he can watch TV or go to sleep. |
Maybe, but that's not the problem here. |
| I'd like to point out that I had anal sex with my wife 4 times this week alone, and the OP thinks once a week of regular, PIV sex is enough "in fact, it's too much, every time he wants to get down... Get down... Get down make love." |
Yes. This. x1000. The low drive spouse believes the high drive spouse should be grateful. Grateful for what? The "ok, I guess it's time to have sex now" romp? Is that low drive spouse going to go all out and tease and play and lick and suck? Very fucking unlikely. Who wants that? "Duty intercourse." Fuck that. |
Here's the crux of it. You are asking for something that the low drive spouse can't deliver. You can accept that or leave, but complaining at the low drive spouse about it isn't going to change the fact that they're not into it. The conflict just makes it worse. |
| I agree that leaving is the *only* option for those that want a happy sex life. |
| As far as I'm concerned, a "low drive spouse" is a FAULT in a divorce. |
I'd say a "Low drive spouse not willing to try and increase their drive" is a fault. |
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Saying so doesn't make it so.
I'd say that a high drive spouse who is obsessed with sucking and fucking like he/she is 20, when he/she is really 40, is a pervert and a freak who should be engaged in more productive adult past times. That doesn't make it so, though. Pissing away your marriage with all of the financial issues and kid issues involved is not the best idea. Doing it because you are trying to recapture the sex life you had in your 20s is folly. |
Yes, that's a fair fix to the statement. |
Sigh. That's why I studied acting in college. I'm just hanging out, waiting for my husband to die, so I never have to suck another dick, ever again. |