bin laden is dead

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Obama did in 2 years what W couldn't do in 8. What else is there to say?


come on, I doubt you are that dumb. it is more accurate to say that our military (and intelligence) took 10 years to track him down, building on sources, intelligence and past efforts. They got the name of the courier 4 years ago, and it took this long to track him down and plan the mission.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Something like 30% of Dems think 9/11 was an inside job


Do you have a source for that? I think that is complete BS.


don't know how credible this is - http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0411/More_than_half_of_Democrats_believed_Bush_knew.html
Anonymous
Strange - 10 pages in and no one has said anything about hoping to bring peace to the victims of the families 9/11. Just thought I'd try to bring it back.....



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Strange - 10 pages in and no one has said anything about hoping to bring peace to the victims of the families 9/11. Just thought I'd try to bring it back.....





I listened to an interview with a spouse who lost her husband on 9/11. She said while this was good for the world, it did nothing for her family.
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Something like 30% of Dems think 9/11 was an inside job


Do you have a source for that? I think that is complete BS.


don't know how credible this is - http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0411/More_than_half_of_Democrats_believed_Bush_knew.html


Poorly-worded survey question. If respondents focused on the "took no action to stop the attacks" part of the question, they could be referring to incompetence rather than malfeasance. After all, Bush was warned that Bin Laden was planning attacks in the US. Recognizing that does not mean that I think Bush wanted the attacks to occur.
Anonymous
I wouldn't say I "believe" that. I would say that, similar to the conspiracy theories about the bombing of Pearl Harbor, and how some in power may have let that happen in order to get us into WWII, I sometimes wonder whether 9/11 didn't provide a handy justification for our invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. And that there are some in power who may have wanted that or benefited from it. And oh yeah a justification to erode the constitutional rights of the average citizen.

I remember hearing something about the sale of airline stocks immediately before 9/11 - that someone, somewhere, knew it was coming. Here's a quick google result.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/israelies_were_911_short_sale_stock_buyers_betting_on_wtc_strikes.htm

It does make me wonder. But not "believe" by any stretch.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we're clear that America is now in the business of meting out Old Testament justice. Due process is definitely on holiday here, college kids! They shot him in the head. This was an execution.


yep, he was probably innocent. there is no war going on.


Yes eye roller. He was a war criminal, as such technically he should have been arrested and tried. The Geneva Covention is still in effect. There is a protocol. But personally, I am ambivalent--bringing him in alive would have been very problematic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As long as we're clear that America is now in the business of meting out Old Testament justice. Due process is definitely on holiday here, college kids! They shot him in the head. This was an execution.


What, confession holds no water with you? Explicit, highly-publicized, free-of-compulsion confession?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we're clear that America is now in the business of meting out Old Testament justice. Due process is definitely on holiday here, college kids! They shot him in the head. This was an execution.


yep, he was probably innocent. there is no war going on.


Yes eye roller. He was a war criminal, as such technically he should have been arrested and tried. The Geneva Covention is still in effect. There is a protocol. But personally, I am ambivalent--bringing him in alive would have been very problematic.



people that resist are not shot in the head? this compound was not heavily armed? come on ...
Anonymous
Add me to the rolls of those who feel sick seeing this jubilation. I found the news startling and unsettling. I view it as an unsavory and unhappy resolution that had to take place. I fully support our actions, but I don't see any reason for anyone to celebrate. In fact, I honestly feel it is sickening and cannot look at friends who were among the gravedancers in front of the white house the same way ever again. I know believe some folks got caught up in groupthink - who wanted to feel like they were and are part of something bigger. I guess I can understand this. But why check sensitivity at the door? Does it not occur to them that this behavior is inflammatory? Does it not occur that we should not be celebrating like this so long as our overreliance on fossil fuels and our other excesses have most certainly contributed to the unpeaceful environment we live in every day? Do they not realize that there will (WILL) be retaliatory strikes - if not here on U.S. soil then most certainly a higher risk to our business, embassy, and military personnel overseas? My dad is a doctor with doctors without borders. He is at greater risk because a bunch of assholes decided to take champagne to the White House. As if we've "won." As if this solves anything.

Make no mistake - this death is important and it is significant. But how in god's name is it cause for celebration? It simply tells me that bloodthirst is contagious.

Anonymous
I wanted to send some military recruiters to the celebration last night to sign up some new recruits. War and death are never good, but if this is what it takes to truly send the troops home for awhile, than it's a necessary evil. My brother has spent five of the last ten years in the Middle East. It's time for some actual down time and not just the required 12 months in between deployments. Yes, it's his job and he signed up for it. But that many deployments has truly been a hardship for his wife & kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This may just provoke an attack, really. Scary.


It may? It is an absolute given they will try.
Anonymous
11:23, I agree to some extent. I am sitting here grappling with, how is a person (of my faith) supposed to feel about this? I don't want to be a "gravedancer". But at the same time it's natural to feel a sense of satisfaction when one finally gets justice.

I am trying to feel sorry for Osama, that he had so much hate in his heart. And for those who have been poisoned by him. Including us.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's crazy to me that he was hiding out in a mansion!


If you want to hide something put it out in the open. Last place anyone will look. Though, in bin Laden's case, I think he had a lot of assistance from the Pakistani government.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This may just provoke an attack, really. Scary.


It may? It is an absolute given they will try.


duh, they have been trying for 10 years, with zero success. thank Bush and the intelligence buildup after 9/11 for that. Obama to his credit has kept up the heat (despite his campaign promises thankfully). They will continue to try until they are out of funds and fanatics are not willing to die for a lost cause. we are getting there, and this is a big step.
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