FCPS Skyview Boundary Revised Scenario 1 / 2

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Anonymous wrote:What did Dixit do? I think I missed a plot twist.

Seema Dixit is the SB rep for the Centrevlle area which includes Westfield, Centreville, Chantilly.

She lives in an enormous house currently zoned for Bull Run-Liberty-Centreville HS.

Bull Run is a split feeder. Half go to Liberty-Centreville, and half to Stone-Westfield.

The half of Bull Run currently zoned to Centreville HS is a mix of mostly lower income/working class areas and some expensive or SFH areas.

In MOST of the previous iterations of the boundary maps, all of Bull Run ES (including Dixit's house) was moved to Westfield.

Mysteriously, in the latest two versions, one low income apartment building was singled out to move from Centreville to Westfield (and this building was one of the closest area to the actual CVHS building!), and the rest of Bull Run was not moved. This piecemeal approach was not in any previous version. So she finagled reducing the FARMs rate at Centreville (to increase property values), can say she helped with the overcrowding by moving some kids, and basically threw Westfield under the bus. (The SB members get a lot of deference to things happening in their areas. That's why everyone is assuming someone lives in Walney Oaks).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So let me get this straight. Skyview was purchased to relieve capacity at Chantilly and Centreville and to reduce travel time for far flung Oakton students. Yet the leading scenario guts Westfield and South Lakes while leaving Chantilly, Centreville, and Oakton boundaries mostly untouched, save for the poor kids who are easier to shuffle around without a fight.

Not really.

The goal was always to relieve capacity at Chantilly, Centreville and Westfield.

Oakton and South Lakes were included in the boundary study because of their proximity to Skyview but they were not the main target. This point was clear from the beginning.

Chantilly is going to see a meaningful relief.

I do think they should move more Centreville kids to Westfield.

Incorrect. When the building was purchased FCPS and multiple school board members justified it by saying it would keep kids from having to go all the way from Herndon to Oakton HS. That was one of the main justifications.

Frisch and McDaniel stated that it could help with that...the overcrowding at Chantilly, Centreville, and Westfield was the primary reason. Also, removing Crossfield from Oakton does not stop Herndon kids from commuting to Oakton HS...did you forget that the Crossfield kids off of Fox Mill live right next to Navy kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let me get this straight. Skyview was purchased to relieve capacity at Chantilly and Centreville and to reduce travel time for far flung Oakton students. Yet the leading scenario guts Westfield and South Lakes while leaving Chantilly, Centreville, and Oakton boundaries mostly untouched, save for the poor kids who are easier to shuffle around without a fight.

Not really.

The goal was always to relieve capacity at Chantilly, Centreville and Westfield.

Oakton and South Lakes were included in the boundary study because of their proximity to Skyview but they were not the main target. This point was clear from the beginning.

Chantilly is going to see a meaningful relief.

I do think they should move more Centreville kids to Westfield.

Incorrect. When the building was purchased FCPS and multiple school board members justified it by saying it would keep kids from having to go all the way from Herndon to Oakton HS. That was one of the main justifications.

+1. Add to that Westfield was not above capacity and there was already a plan in place to expand Centreville. The shorter commutes for Westfield and Oakton kids were definitely held out as a main justification for buying KAA.

Now they are just making a hash of things, like they always do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So let me get this straight. Skyview was purchased to relieve capacity at Chantilly and Centreville and to reduce travel time for far flung Oakton students. Yet the leading scenario guts Westfield and South Lakes while leaving Chantilly, Centreville, and Oakton boundaries mostly untouched, save for the poor kids who are easier to shuffle around without a fight.

Not really.

The goal was always to relieve capacity at Chantilly, Centreville and Westfield.

Oakton and South Lakes were included in the boundary study because of their proximity to Skyview but they were not the main target. This point was clear from the beginning.

Chantilly is going to see a meaningful relief.

I do think they should move more Centreville kids to Westfield.

Incorrect. When the building was purchased FCPS and multiple school board members justified it by saying it would keep kids from having to go all the way from Herndon to Oakton HS. That was one of the main justifications.

Frisch and McDaniel stated that it could help with that...the overcrowding at Chantilly, Centreville, and Westfield was the primary reason. Also, removing Crossfield from Oakton does not stop Herndon kids from commuting to Oakton HS...did you forget that the Crossfield kids off of Fox Mill live right next to Navy kids.

Westfield was always under capacity though....

[Anonymous]

OK the Seema Dixit thing is crazy if true.

[Anonymous]

Its absolutely insane that they did not move those Herndon kids over to a closer school and left them at Oakton in both scenarios.

Literally one of the reasons they bought the school was to reduce overcrowding at *OAKTON* and to keep those kids from having to go such a long way to school.

Now both scenarios have no one moving out of Oakton, but leaving South Lakes and Westfield without enough students.

It makes no sense.

A school in the perfect location falls into their lap and they still manage to make a complete disaster out of it.

And the self-dealing by Seema Dixit and apparently, Kyle McDaniel, needs to be reviewed by an FCPS ethics office.

[Anonymous]

Did they say anything about the Walney Oaks area at the meeting?

[Anonymous]

Seema Dixit should be ashamed of herself but these people have no shame.

[Anonymous]

A plan that leaves Oakton at 104% capacity and Westfield at 74% is a huge dereliction of duty by FCPS to spend taxpayer dollars wisely and make sure all the schools have enough students to run sufficient programs.

Westfield is going to have to destaff 1/3 rd of their teachers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why so many in crossfield are so laser focused on staying Oakton? I would MUCH prefer my teen having a close option like Skyview rather than the outrageously long commute to Oakton.

They paid oakton price to buy the house in oakton hs. They did not mind the commute to oakton when they bought the house and still do not mind that. For the people who were willing to pay the extra to buy in oakton hs, going to a better school out weighs 10+ minutes of extra commute time. As simple as that.

I actually do not understand why people who hates commute to oakton so much would buy in crossfield in the first place.

This right here is the answer. We bought houses in the Oakton district and absolutely knew the distance from our neighborhoods to the high school.

While I strongly prefer Oakton HS, my biggest concern is that scenario 1 is absolutely bananas in the way the board is proposing to split just a few Crossfield neighborhoods and send that handful of kids to Carson/Skyview. So my kids will have spent 7+ years with their peers at Crossfield, most of their class would move onto Franklin/Oakton, and then they would start MS knowing maybe 5 kids at a school of 1,400 (Carson). The math isn't mathing, and there is a plethora of research that shows what a terrible idea this is from a mental health standpoint.

[Anonymous]

What neighborhood does McDaniel live in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why so many in crossfield are so laser focused on staying Oakton? I would MUCH prefer my teen having a close option like Skyview rather than the outrageously long commute to Oakton.

They paid oakton price to buy the house in oakton hs. They did not mind the commute to oakton when they bought the house and still do not mind that. For the people who were willing to pay the extra to buy in oakton hs, going to a better school out weighs 10+ minutes of extra commute time. As simple as that.

I actually do not understand why people who hates commute to oakton so much would buy in crossfield in the first place.

This right here is the answer. We bought houses in the Oakton district and absolutely knew the distance from our neighborhoods to the high school.

While I strongly prefer Oakton HS, my biggest concern is that scenario 1 is absolutely bananas in the way the board is proposing to split just a few Crossfield neighborhoods and send that handful of kids to Carson/Skyview. So my kids will have spent 7+ years with their peers at Crossfield, most of their class would move onto Franklin/Oakton, and then they would start MS knowing maybe 5 kids at a school of 1,400 (Carson). The math isn't mathing, and there is a plethora of research that shows what a terrible idea this is from a mental health standpoint.

That's a direct result of the consultants being directed to "freeze" any designated HS and MS walkers + the RIO nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why so many in crossfield are so laser focused on staying Oakton? I would MUCH prefer my teen having a close option like Skyview rather than the outrageously long commute to Oakton.

They paid oakton price to buy the house in oakton hs. They did not mind the commute to oakton when they bought the house and still do not mind that. For the people who were willing to pay the extra to buy in oakton hs, going to a better school out weighs 10+ minutes of extra commute time. As simple as that.

I actually do not understand why people who hates commute to oakton so much would buy in crossfield in the first place.

This right here is the answer. We bought houses in the Oakton district and absolutely knew the distance from our neighborhoods to the high school.

While I strongly prefer Oakton HS, my biggest concern is that scenario 1 is absolutely bananas in the way the board is proposing to split just a few Crossfield neighborhoods and send that handful of kids to Carson/Skyview. So my kids will have spent 7+ years with their peers at Crossfield, most of their class would move onto Franklin/Oakton, and then they would start MS knowing maybe 5 kids at a school of 1,400 (Carson). The math isn't mathing, and there is a plethora of research that shows what a terrible idea this is from a mental health standpoint.

There's nothing compelling about this. Everyone knows where their zoned high school is when they purchase a house and they also know that can be changed at any time. It makes NO sense to send Herndon kids all the way to Vienna to Oakton when there are going to be 800 empty seats at Westfield and 400 empty seats at South Lakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its absolutely insane that they did not move those Herndon kids over to a closer school and left them at Oakton in both scenarios.

Literally one of the reasons they bought the school was to reduce overcrowding at *OAKTON* and to keep those kids from having to go such a long way to school.

Now both scenarios have no one moving out of Oakton, but leaving South Lakes and Westfield without enough students.

It makes no sense.

A school in the perfect location falls into their lap and they still manage to make a complete disaster out of it.

And the self-dealing by Seema Dixit and apparently, Kyle McDaniel, needs to be reviewed by an FCPS ethics office.

Actually, FCPS first said they bought the school to reduce overcrowding at Centreville, Chantilly, and Westfields.

In the initial October meetings when they started the boundary conversations, Oakton wasn't overcrowded. Now, magically, it is. Does anyone else find that fascinating?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why so many in crossfield are so laser focused on staying Oakton? I would MUCH prefer my teen having a close option like Skyview rather than the outrageously long commute to Oakton.

They paid oakton price to buy the house in oakton hs. They did not mind the commute to oakton when they bought the house and still do not mind that. For the people who were willing to pay the extra to buy in oakton hs, going to a better school out weighs 10+ minutes of extra commute time. As simple as that.

I actually do not understand why people who hates commute to oakton so much would buy in crossfield in the first place.

This right here is the answer. We bought houses in the Oakton district and absolutely knew the distance from our neighborhoods to the high school.

While I strongly prefer Oakton HS, my biggest concern is that scenario 1 is absolutely bananas in the way the board is proposing to split just a few Crossfield neighborhoods and send that handful of kids to Carson/Skyview. So my kids will have spent 7+ years with their peers at Crossfield, most of their class would move onto Franklin/Oakton, and then they would start MS knowing maybe 5 kids at a school of 1,400 (Carson). The math isn't mathing, and there is a plethora of research that shows what a terrible idea this is from a mental health standpoint.

There's nothing compelling about this. Everyone knows where their zoned high school is when they purchase a house and they also know that can be changed at any time. It makes NO sense to send Herndon kids all the way to Vienna to Oakton when there are going to be 800 empty seats at Westfield and 400 empty seats at South Lakes.

I find students' mental health pretty compelling, but to each their own.