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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

Yes, I have kids. Obviously I’d react differently if this happened to my kid.

Why would that make a difference?

Because it’s easy for me to dismiss something that happened to myself as no big deal — I was there and I experienced it. If someone came up to my kid and hit them out of nowhere I’d find that far more alarming.

Yeah, but you still wouldn't call the police.

If someone hit my kid out of nowhere I would definitely call the police. I still wouldn’t really expect that they’d be able to make an arrest based on a description with almost no identifying info, but I certainly wouldn’t brush it off.

Are you the PP who was hit and doesn’t think that was assault?

If so, why would you call the cops if your kid was hit in the same way? Is that somehow assault because it happened to your kid?

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

Yes, I have kids. Obviously I’d react differently if this happened to my kid.

Why would that make a difference?

Because it’s easy for me to dismiss something that happened to myself as no big deal — I was there and I experienced it. If someone came up to my kid and hit them out of nowhere I’d find that far more alarming.

Yeah, but you still wouldn't call the police.

If someone hit my kid out of nowhere I would definitely call the police. I still wouldn’t really expect that they’d be able to make an arrest based on a description with almost no identifying info, but I certainly wouldn’t brush it off.

Are you the PP who was hit and doesn’t think that was assault?

If so, why would you call the cops if your kid was hit in the same way? Is that somehow assault because it happened to your kid?

Because I treat someone assaulting my kid — in any manner — more seriously than someone smacking me on the back in a way that I know didn’t do any harm, because I was there.

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

Yes, I have kids. Obviously I’d react differently if this happened to my kid.

Why would that make a difference?

Because it’s easy for me to dismiss something that happened to myself as no big deal — I was there and I experienced it. If someone came up to my kid and hit them out of nowhere I’d find that far more alarming.

Yeah, but you still wouldn't call the police.

If someone hit my kid out of nowhere I would definitely call the police. I still wouldn’t really expect that they’d be able to make an arrest based on a description with almost no identifying info, but I certainly wouldn’t brush it off.

Are you the PP who was hit and doesn’t think that was assault?

If so, why would you call the cops if your kid was hit in the same way? Is that somehow assault because it happened to your kid?

And it isn’t that I don’t think it’s assault, it’s that I don’t think the fact that something is technically a crime means I am somehow obligated to report it to police, especially since it didn’t really bother me for more than a few minutes and because I knew there was no way anyone would do anything about it anyway, since — as I said — I had no ability to provide a description of the alleged assailant.

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He’s called me a racist too! Once yelled from the dumpsters as I exited my car, another time muttered under his breath as I walked by. The weird thing is for years he never did anything like that (to me at least).

I now dread walking by him, especially with my kids.

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Time to head for the ‘burbs. I can’t believe people pay a ton for housing and put up with this.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s called me a racist too! Once yelled from the dumpsters as I exited my car, another time muttered under his breath as I walked by. The weird thing is for years he never did anything like that (to me at least).

I now dread walking by him, especially with my kids.

Are you a racist?

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Time to out him to pasture

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Anonymous wrote:There should be no beggars, aggressive or not. It is sad that there are no standards anymore. Everyone is ok with observing an unsavory character

He’s not a beggar. He’s selling newspapers. You can hate him there all you want, but tell the truth.

I’ve also walked by there several times and haven’t seen a single chicken bone or trash specifically around his station, though that general area on the sidewalk for 2 blocks isn’t clean.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to out him to pasture

Pretty sure he is already there, you special snowflake.

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

Yes, I have kids. Obviously I’d react differently if this happened to my kid.

Why would that make a difference?

Because it’s easy for me to dismiss something that happened to myself as no big deal — I was there and I experienced it. If someone came up to my kid and hit them out of nowhere I’d find that far more alarming.

Yeah, but you still wouldn't call the police.

If someone hit my kid out of nowhere I would definitely call the police. I still wouldn’t really expect that they’d be able to make an arrest based on a description with almost no identifying info, but I certainly wouldn’t brush it off.

Are you the PP who was hit and doesn’t think that was assault?

If so, why would you call the cops if your kid was hit in the same way? Is that somehow assault because it happened to your kid?

And it isn’t that I don’t think it’s assault, it’s that I don’t think the fact that something is technically a crime means I am somehow obligated to report it to police, especially since it didn’t really bother me for more than a few minutes and because I knew there was no way anyone would do anything about it anyway, since — as I said — I had no ability to provide a description of the alleged assailant.

OMG. You are still here? I was hoping you’d be in an in-patient psych treatment center by now.

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Anonymous wrote:Just find a way to avoid him and his lunch remnants. Living in an urban area often means you need to find ways to exist in the midst of people much less fortunate than you.

I think it's inhumane to have people living on sidewalks. We should insist that they be housed in a place with running water and a place to rest. We have come to accept this as the new normal of living in a city, but other countries (such as in Europe) manage to have cities without homeless people. Are those countires less humane that we are? I would argue that they are more humane.

The U.S. did not used to have this amount of homelessness. We should insist on human treatment for all people, and give them a place to stay (and meals and running water), but prohibit them from sleeping on sidewalks and in parks. It would raise the quality of life for all people.

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national guard should arrest and deport him

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Anonymous wrote:national guard should arrest and deport him

They won't come across him. As best I can tell they are mostly walking around the National mall and the mean streets of Georgetown.